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Sailhack
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30 Jul 2012 5:25pm
Prob only for us oldies, but seeing that most of us probably heard about the legal case against Men at Work from the Kookaburra song artist (not that I followed the case, but from what I read it was pretty dodgy). Colin Hay has just re-released it with a 'slight' change to the flute riff. Timed it to align with the Olympic Games opening ceremony.

http://blogs.abc.net.au/sa/2012/07/colin-hay-and-down-under-2012.html

My 2 cents, still enjoy the song but miss those few high notes. Although it's only a slight change, it might take a while to get used to. I understand & I'm glad they re-recorded it though.
doggie
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30 Jul 2012 3:40pm
If thats all they had to change the whole case is boolcrap imo.

Men at Work are not the only ones to have done it, in fact there is a very recent one from an Australian artist who I will not name that uses another nursery rhyme at the start of his song and its much more clear than that one.

And wasnt it only found out after the question had been raised on Specs and Specks? If that question wasnt asked on the TV show would the court case still have gone ahead? I wouldnt think so.

I think Men at Work were unfairly drilled on that!
CMC
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30 Jul 2012 6:24pm
Didnt the flute player die also?

Perhaps it's a sign of respect?
Scotty88
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30 Jul 2012 4:44pm
CMC said...

Didnt the flute player die also?

Perhaps it's a sign of respect?


His name was Greg Ham and he died within past 2 months.
To be honest, I could never identify the similarity between the flute in Down Under and that farkin kookabarra song/rhyme wtf.

@doggie, yeh you're right about Spicks and Specks and hope those ****s are feeling guilty with digging that up - pr1cks.
doggie
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30 Jul 2012 4:47pm
CMC said...

Didnt the flute player die also?

Perhaps it's a sign of respect?


He was the one that wrote it I think, died a broken man from what the other band members said.
Simondo
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30 Jul 2012 8:21pm
The girl who wrote the Kokaburra tune has actually passed away... Not sure on full details, but it was part of a Girl Guide competition I think... And today, the royalties rest with a company... not with the girl, or her family... Pretty certain the company is not part of the family, and not part of the Scout Association / Guide Association either.

So "The Greedy Company" somehow owns the rights to the Kookaburra song. The Company and it representatives are another case of greedy farkers gone wrong!

Ended up costing the life of a good bloke who enjoyed living in Carlton Victoria, enjoyed teaching people music...

"The Greedy Company" just wanted more money...
Simondo
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30 Jul 2012 8:24pm
Here's a run down.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kookaburra(song)
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pierrec45
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30 Jul 2012 8:57pm
The guy who was running Larrikin Music Publishing "retired" after the court case.

He must be happy with the outcome and prob. made enough money out of it?
I know I couldn't sleep at night..
Dawn Patrol
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30 Jul 2012 10:23pm
Simondo said...

The girl who wrote the Kokaburra tune has actually passed away... Not sure on full details, but it was part of a Girl Guide competition I think... And today, the royalties rest with a company... not with the girl, or her family... Pretty certain the company is not part of the family, and not part of the Scout Association / Guide Association either.

So "The Greedy Company" somehow owns the rights to the Kookaburra song. The Company and it representatives are another case of greedy farkers gone wrong!

Ended up costing the life of a good bloke who enjoyed living in Carlton Victoria, enjoyed teaching people music...

"The Greedy Company" just wanted more money...



Yeh that's what I heard.

To be honest I can't notice the similarity...
Every song on the radio today sounds the same, surprised it isn't lawsuit galore.

And from what I read Greg Ham was devastated by the decision. Saying he'll be remembered for plagiarism etc. Don't think that's true though. Everyone knows his tune and loves it!
Sailhack
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31 Jul 2012 10:03am
It's ok when it's the same label though...?



or the same artist...?



but these guys are onto it (wonder why they haven't been sued by...everyone!?)

choco
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31 Jul 2012 10:09am
pierrec45 said...

The guy who was running Larrikin Music Publishing "retired" after the court case.

He must be happy with the outcome and prob. made enough money out of it?
I know I couldn't sleep at night..


Larrikin Music only purchased the copyright to the song for fark all so they could make some quick cash by suing Men at Work
Scotty88
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31 Jul 2012 8:47am
Can anybody see a similarity between the flute and the kookaburra song ?
Not me.
Sailhack
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31 Jul 2012 11:51am
Scotty88 said...

Can anybody see a similarity between the flute and the kookaburra song ?
Not me.


Only the "kookaburra sits in the old gum tree..." bit.
Pitbull
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31 Jul 2012 9:57am
Sailhack said...

Scotty88 said...

Can anybody see a similarity between the flute and the kookaburra song ?
Not me.


Only the "kookaburra sits in the old gum tree..." bit.


It's there. Just have to have a damn good ear to hear it. Must say that I didn't pick it up until it was pointed out.
doggie
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31 Jul 2012 10:14am
Pitbull said...

Sailhack said...

Scotty88 said...

Can anybody see a similarity between the flute and the kookaburra song ?
Not me.


Only the "kookaburra sits in the old gum tree..." bit.


It's there. Just have to have a damn good ear to hear it. Must say that I didn't pick it up until it was pointed out.


Same, I was watching Spicks and Specks when the question came up. The thing is the same could be said for alot of songs, I want to mention one but I dont want it to go public so I wont say what song it is.
Pitbull
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31 Jul 2012 10:20am
Was it that Cold Play/Joe Satriani one?
doggie
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31 Jul 2012 10:28am
Pitbull said...

Was it that Cold Play/Joe Satriani one?


Na Im just trying to remember the song now its gone from my head
jbshack
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31 Jul 2012 5:51pm
The Axis of Awesome was unreal That is almost like hearing your life music all in 10 minutes

Loved it..
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