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dirtyharry said...

Don't need anything particularly fancy,

want something reliable
... that won't break when dropped etc.
--- Just do the usual stuff (seabreeze, web surfing, spreadsheets, word processing etc
... access porn),
... use it for work
... often end up running a heap of apps simultaneously

... Don't want to spend much more than $800.

Hi Harry...

I don't think such a computer exist... unless if you get lucky in second hand market. However, it seems like you need at least semi decent machine here. $800 is pushing it price wise... unless you are happy to go with Windoze... but then I can guarantee it's gonna break, and have viruses and you'll have sh1t load of problems with it. GUARANTEED.

I strongly recomend you spend a little more, and go for Apple.
Buy from their "refurbished" section. These are the same like new, and have same as new warranty, and the casing of each refurbished product is brand new - you can read on their site.
http://store.apple.com/au/browse/home/specialdeals/mac?mco=OTY2ODY3Nw

You can find great deals there - such as Mac Books from $1000 only. Or even better Mac Book Pro for under $1200. If you buy MacBook Pro, you will not regret it. I have one as well. I can run many apps simultaneously and it never broke down like PC's and Windoze does. It's quicker, better looking, stabile, no viruses, and won't give you any grief. You get much more software packaged up when you buy Mac. You only need to get a copy of Office somewhere (but you need to do the same on PC anyway). For any application you ever used on windows, there is an equivalent for Mac these days... PM me if you need further advise...

I would never ever want to come even close to the PC or Windoze after switching to Mac.

wotzy77 said...

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Is this really true about no viruses? I was working on Macs back in 1990 and there were viruses on them back then. Has anything changed, or are you guys just assuming that there are no Mac viruses out there?

I agree there are less, but the more common Macs become, the more likely that there will be more viruses created for them.

FormulaNova said...

wotzy77 said...

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Is this really true about no viruses? I was working on Macs back in 1990 and there were viruses on them back then. Has anything changed, or are you guys just assuming that there are no Mac viruses out there?

I agree there are less, but the more common Macs become, the more likely that there will be more viruses created for them.

Macs are not entirely virus-free, but for all intents and purposes, they are not a hassle.
When you buy a Mac, there is no mention of virus soft-ware as a marketing add-on, and no virus software on the shelves.
I'm sure if you surfed enough pron-sites, you could find something eventually, but nothign like you will get on a PC.
If you loan a PC work computer to your mates to surf pron, expect to have it blow up with viruses in less than a week, and to possibly suffer identity theft and lose all the money out of your bank accounts.
Why would you do such a thing ?

Nothing wrong with windows, the problem tends to be the user. Like any tool, treat is right and it will work. Get virus scanners,use firewalls, don't use dodgy sites, use common sense. The only reason there is the apparent no virus threat on mac, is that as windows is so much more popular, most hackers would go for the lowest hanging fruit first. If 90% of the world used mac-os, then the lowest fruit would quickly become mac.

If you want to save some serious amounts of bucks, and just use for web browsing and basic office stuff, get a basic desktop and install something like Ubunto on with open office.Do you really need the mobility of a laptop, or could live with a desktop. Good desktops are a lot cheaper,even after a windows install.


Making Apple Macs in gloss white was a very good move for them back when they were struggling. Apple is now worth more than Microsoft in stock value.

look you guys can go on about how there is nothing wrong with windows as much as you like... i don't disagree with some of your technical statements and suggestions... but I haven't met anyone yet who has said "i've switched from mac to windows, and i'm glad, and i'm never going back"... Usually those defending windows are those who haven't really experienced mac properly...(i was also in such denial for over 10 years)...

putting it simply, for an average joe, mac is just much more smoother experience... they won't have to go through hoops and loops to maintain their system like with windows... I've had hundreds of times friends and family asking me to come fix their Windows... never happen when they switched to Apple... I guess Microsoft should have given out a complementary Windows management degree to their buyers so that they know how to use it "properly"

it's nothing to do steve job's nipples... it's the fact that (at the moment) Apple provide better and superior product for general public. And their prices are fair based on what you get.

westozwind said...

Go grumps, Apple fanboi's are sucking on the Steve Jobs nipple.
Superlizard, if you are having so many problems with Windoze, then you really should learn to use it, not abuse it.
I'll agree that the Linux based kernel fro MacOS is more stable, I've been using Linux for over 10 years, other unix based platforms for over 15.
Economically, Macs are over priced. for the same speced hardware platform, a Windows based PC is at least 30% cheaper and supports more software.
To say a unix system is "by default" more secure than windows is also a fallacy. It's how it's set up that makes it secure.
Don't set a "root" password on your system (as happens with Jail broken iPhones) and you will be hacked in no time.
The Unix operating system also makes it a lot easier to hide malicious software from the average user.
It's nerd boxes, they all have strengths and weaknesses. Most weaknesses come from the person sitting in front of the screen pushing keys and clicking the mouse (PEBKAC).

Spoken by someone who clearly does computers as a serious hobby or for a living.
However, given that the average user, including me, would not even understand half your post, it's not really that simple. yes, issues often come from the user, doofi lik me. That said, I've worked in computerised businesses for a decade now, and seen countless systme failures that have nothing to do wiht user error, and everything to do with the intrinsic crappy design of the system.
Mac offers the same safety and ease of use, without the work or knowledge.
I don't want to fiddle with or tune my computer, any more than I want to tune my car.
I want to drive it, not play with it.

grumplestiltskin said...

superlizard said...
And their prices are fair based on what you get.

What a croc ..... just ask the staff at Foxxconn

apple gear, including software, is MASSIVELY over priced.

you can get a decent mac laptop or desktop for around 1000 bucks these days that would do perfect job for an average user... how is that over priced? Still, they should cost more than PC's... that will continue to protect macs as a niche market...

westozwind said...

Ah yes KenHo, the driving bit.
To drive a car, you need a license. To get a license you need to demonstrate a basic understanding of road rules and how the car operates.
No such requirement when buying a computer.
Buy it, plug it in, screw around with it, then complain when it stuffs up.
PEBKAC stands for Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair. That's where most system problems start.

To be clear, I have "learnt to drive". Beyond that, I am not interested. I just love the simplicity of the Mac. Why should that opinion be such a problem ? I'm not defensive about that opinion, nor am I a "deluded fanboi sucking on Steve Job's tit". I just like the product.
I can also assure you that the problems with the common medical records programme I have used for a decade do not emanate form users. They are intrinsic in the MS programmes it is based on.
I have also spent a ridiculous amount of money on techs to fix said problems, and watched corps I work for spend even vaster sums, repeatedly fixing the same problems.
Even better, I've heard the mantra of "you just need the patch/upgrade", as if that was anything other than code for "importing a different set of problems for us to fix" for so long, it makes me shake my head at any suggestion that Apple users are deluded.

superlizard said...
..."i've switched from mac to windows, and i'm glad, and i'm never going back"... ...

I did. I used Macs heavily right from the beginning. Eventually I got sick of the machines locking up and needing the power cable removed to unfreeze them. The incompatibility between generations was an expensive nightmare.

Since moving to Windows I have had pretty much no problems at all. I have a couple of ancient PC's and they will happily run XP or Vista.

Memory upgrades are ridiculously cheap and buying bits and pieces on ebay is cheap easy and reliable.

Everything just works. If you want to upgrade something you connect to a manufacturers web site and download the latest drivers and problem gone.

I will admit I jumped the Mac ship before they switched to Unix. I suspect the Unix core and Intel chips might have made things a bit better. Still, I don't see any compelling reason to switch to Macs any time soon.

The fact is computers are pretty much all the same. They all have little niggles and driver issues and stuff. No computer is perfect.

I recently did some work with a consulting company that had a full Mac network. It was so sad. There was so much they couldn't do because they were incompatible with the rest of the world and because they didn't really understand the machines they had.

BTW. I've got a couple of Dell machines. Everything works fine out of the box and they're fairly cheap. Rule 1. Get as much memory as you can, loads of disk, and the latest gruntiest processor (although less important because you will always be waiting for the internet.)

Gorgo said...


I will admit I jumped the Mac ship before they switched to Unix. I suspect the Unix core and Intel chips might have made things a bit better. Still, I don't see any compelling reason to switch to Macs any time soon.

I think the only reason they switched to Intel chips was that it was a great way to achieve 'PC' compatibility, be assured of ongoing processor development, and to still be able to lock their OS from being used on generic Intel processors. Quite a clever move. I don't think there was anything wrong at all with the PowerPC chips they were using before, its just that it didn't have the other advantages that the Intel direction had.

My interpretation of why the OS has been better than Windows over time is that they are able to control the hardware a lot more and therefore had less chance of compatibility problems.

If anyone thinks Windows is great with detecting hardware, sure it's good now, but it used to be a real mess.

I think Apple quite rightly charge more for their systems as they are just that, systems that are designed together, where a PC is more of a separate OS and PC that should work well together.