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14 Nov 2012 10:24pm
Anyone living in Lancelin?

I have been approached by a Scout group based in Moora that are asking lots of questions about making a small fleet of landyachts. (between 6 to 10)
One of thier grandpoobahs spent a lot of time drooling over one of my Lefroy minis today- and it looks like the bug has bitten pretty hard.

If they go ahead, they will be needing a supply of old windsurfing sails, masts and booms.
The stuff I salvage and scrounge in Perth is pretty scarce, and what I find is barely enough to keep the Kalgoorlie or Esperance crews sailing.

Does much gear get damaged or retired in the Lancelin area?


Stephen.

Mobydisc
Mobydisc
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15 Nov 2012 9:32am
Why are landyacht crews such a bunch of tight arses? Why don't they go out and buy some new equipment instead of always asking/begging for old gear? Seems like the supply of old gear is drying up and some of them will have to take the lock off their wallet.



FormulaNova
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WA
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15 Nov 2012 7:30am
It's a good way of taking all the old crap windsurfing sails out of the market. I think its better that the landyacht guys use them, instead of someone buying an old rig on ebay and not realising that they could get more modern equipment.

Maybe they should do a run in NSW and QLD, to get rid of the old stuff?
Stuthepirate
Stuthepirate
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15 Nov 2012 11:30am
Mobydisc said...
Why are landyacht crews such a bunch of tight arses? Why don't they go out and buy some new equipment instead of always asking/begging for old gear? Seems like the supply of old gear is drying up and some of them will have to take the lock off their wallet.






Personally, i don't have a problem with it. I donated a cammed sail to Chook's school project earlier this year and he was very grateful. If this can assist kids in obtaining a trade or skills than can use in the work force Kudos to them.
I picked the sail up from the Rockingham tip for $10 so it was money well spent imo.
If these scout kids can use old sails and kit to have a bit of fun and adventure then i'm all for it.
tmurray
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WA
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15 Nov 2012 9:19am
Ask on the kitesurfing forum -plenty of people there have some old windsurfing gear in the shed that they will never use again.
Mobydisc
Mobydisc
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15 Nov 2012 12:27pm
Sure its great for stuff to find a second life rather than throwing it on the tip. I've got no problem with that. However the landyacht crew seem to make it a point to never buy new equipment.

Is it a cultural issue, ie you will be laughed at if you turned up with a new sail on your landyacht, everything must be recycled? Whereas in windsurfing most people are a bit jealous when they see someone else a new board or sail.



PoleTroll
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15 Nov 2012 9:28am
tmurray said...
Ask on the kitesurfing forum -plenty of people there have some old windsurfing gear in the shed that they will never use again.


you could also ask for their dignity too because they won't be needing that either
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15 Nov 2012 9:28am
Mobydisc said...
Why are landyacht crews such a bunch of tight arses? Why don't they go out and buy some new equipment instead of always asking/begging for old gear? Seems like the supply of old gear is drying up and some of them will have to take the lock off their wallet.


Easily explained.
There is no such thing as "off the shelf" landyacht sails, masts or booms in Australia.
The only readily available commercially built landyachts are Blokarts- a fine piece of engineering, but with a price tag of around $3000ish+ for a base model, I hardly think a School or Scout group will lash out and buy a fleet.
Besides- we are encouraging these kids to get "hands on" in building, sailing and maintaining thier landyachts- and not just buying another toy.

This is why we scrounge up all the old, knackered, damaged and unwanted gear we can.
I see no sense in forking out big amounts of cash for a pile of brand new masts- then having to modify them so they work and survive on a landyacht. Much better to collect old or broken masts and rebuild/repair them to our specifications.
Or buying a new sail- then unpicking the seams, recutting the shape then re-sewing it, better to collect an old sail- or blown out sail and reshape it.

When you first started out with windsurfing, surfing or whatever you do, did you fork out big wads of cash for the lastest brand new gear- or start with borrowed gear, someones old stuff, or cheap second hand "gumtree" bargains.
I hardly expect a newby to landyachting to fork out thousands of dollars for a Blokart or custom built landyacht- when they might find the sport doesnt suit them after all.

Its not being tight-arsed, just practical.
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having said that- I am tight-arsed due to being perpetually broke


doggie
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WA
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15 Nov 2012 9:45am
I have a sail and mast that they can have no probs, and a boom if they need it.

PM me with details
Mobydisc
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15 Nov 2012 12:51pm
Good explanation of why second hand gear is preferred for land sailing SN. Goodluck with it.


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15 Nov 2012 10:21am
FormulaNova said...
Maybe they should do a run in NSW and QLD, to get rid of the old stuff?


I have actually considered doing this
The trucking company I am driving for do hot-shot runs (emergency deliveries) all over W.A. and fairly often to the eastern states, almost always returning with an empty truck.
It would be awkward to arrange though as I have very little notice of where I am driving to.

I reckon it would be better for NSW and QLD to do more to promote landyachting and use this local resource for themselves!

Stephen
Sailhack
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15 Nov 2012 3:10pm
sn said...

There is no such thing as "off the shelf" landyacht sails, masts or booms in Australia.
The only readily available commercially built landyachts are Blokarts- a fine piece of engineering, but with a price tag of around $3000ish+ for a base model


Similar to the cost of a basic windsurf setup - they still sell heaps of those. Maybe an opening there for Mr Pryde?
tmurray
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WA
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15 Nov 2012 1:28pm
PoleTroll said...
tmurray said...
Ask on the kitesurfing forum -plenty of people there have some old windsurfing gear in the shed that they will never use again.


you could also ask for their dignity too because they won't be needing that either


That made me laugh.

Bastard.
FlickySpinny
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WA
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15 Nov 2012 3:45pm
I've got a couple of 140-190 booms you can have. Aluminium, both had two years of hard sailing and were retired because the grip was starting to come off and I figured that was a good sign that a new one might be a good idea. Pick up from Nedlands.
gazza
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WA
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16 Nov 2012 8:02am
I was dropping some stuff off at balcatta tip and noticed they had heaps of old sails and booms in the recycle area.
Closed
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16 Nov 2012 3:42pm
tmurray said...
PoleTroll said...
tmurray said...
Ask on the kitesurfing forum -plenty of people there have some old windsurfing gear in the shed that they will never use again.


you could also ask for their dignity too because they won't be needing that either


That made me laugh.

Bastard.


Great friday laugh was had, thank you
hitch_hiker
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WA
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16 Nov 2012 3:42pm
I'm sure there will be a truck load of olympic sails going cheap
Mobydisc
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NSW
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16 Nov 2012 7:22pm
hitch_hiker said...
I'm sure there will be a truck load of olympic sails going cheap


Bit behind the times. Racing kites are going cheap right now. There ain't no Olympic glory for kiters in the foreseeable future.


bobajob
bobajob
QLD
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16 Nov 2012 7:44pm
PoleTroll said...
tmurray said...
Ask on the kitesurfing forum -plenty of people there have some old windsurfing gear in the shed that they will never use again.


you could also ask for their dignity too because they won't be needing that either


Who would have any dignity after admitting they do or did poleboard
cisco
cisco
QLD
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16 Nov 2012 11:36pm
In the speed stakes wind surfers have ripped off kites and land yachts have ripped off kite buggies.

Kites are about harnessing wind energy and sails are about modifying and maximising wind energy.

So unless this bull crap egotistical rivalry between kite and wind surfers is no more than ariel acrobatics, there is no argument.

So sorry to spoil your jeering party.
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