your not a mate of Kevin Reynolds are you

What's wrong with if you take a job you know the pay if its not enough spend less or find new job

Not very Australian making everyone else get home late on a Friday night and miss the footy
Could have made it on a Monday

I dont give a rats about train drives or bus drivers i own a car

Mark _australia said...

Well there's ya new job Greenman - scab train driver
Even better they're electric!

At least he can fix it when they break down lol

Mobydisc said...

A suburban train driver must be a good job.

Just like taxi driver, but:

don't have to steer - just brake an accelerate
don't have to talk to passengers
no puke to clean up on the weekend night shifts
and you don't have to be Muslim or Hindu.....

It seems to be the flavour of the month with industrial disputes to have a sick day, but what will end up happening will be the rules for sick leave will end up changing which will **** it up for everyone.

The irony is all the righteously indignant will be yelling jumping up and down complaining about loss of rights will conveniently forget the reason which triggered the changes in the industrial act which will require a Dr's slip each and every sick day.

are the trains automatic or manual ?

I heard they had a day off with general soreness so that they will nice and fresh for the big footy game next week.

Greenroom said...

gazza said...

your not a mate of Kevin Reynolds are you

What's wrong with if you take a job you know the pay if its not enough spend less or find new job

Not very Australian making everyone else get home late on a Friday night and miss the footy
Could have made it on a Monday

I dont give a rats about train drives or bus drivers i own a car

No Im not a mate of Kevin Reynolds. Never have been. He is in the CFMEU. Im in the CEPU. Two different unions. Just like the train drivers have their union and our police have their union etc etc.
Times change. The cost of living goes up. Are you still charging the same for your services today Gazza as you were a few years ago? 10 years ago Im sure you could have payed someone $10 an hour to labour for you? How about today?
Remember when our police had an issue and to make a point they werent giving out speeding fines? I dont remember hearing anyone whinge about that?

I can only charge what people are prepared to pay.
If im to expensive i dont work simple as that.

My pay from the builders hasn't changed in at least 5years im about to start of negotiations with them now.

The thing is i will still work when this is going on as i have a obligation to myself and my workers.
I pay my workers a fair wage if i didn't people wouldn't work for me.It as simple as that

what im getting at is nobody is forced to work anywhere if my builders wont change i can always look for another who does pay more or i can stay put. Its my choice.

Same as anybody if you feel your getting ripped off you can always look another job then leave your employer in the **** when you find one.
Thats what hurts employers the most

Im not anti union at all in certain industry and profession's you need them and the do a great job.

But to cause disruption on a Friday to so many hard workers who probably would also like a pay rise is pretty weak and wont gain much support.
As i say do it on a monday.

Nobody whinged about the police as they didnt cause a disruption to anyone

The main problem with a lot of workers is they sometimes think they are worth more than they are and dont realise how good they have.

If my 2 works want a $50 aweek rise thats an extra $5200 per year it has to come from somewhere.

So that means they either work harder or longer hours something they dont want to do or i charge more for my service something the customers wont pay so where does that leave me i take another pay cut even though my wages havent change much in years yet theres have.

Greenie i know when your not happy with your pay you change to another employer.

Why can't theses guy do the same or maybe sitting on there arse all driving a train really isn't a bad number after all

Greenroom said...

Lets go windsurfing Gazza

Tell me about it even Lynette commented about my lack of windsurfing so it must bad.

Ive booked the abrolhos trip with windy in Dec you coming???

elmo said...

It seems to be the flavour of the month with industrial disputes to have a sick day, but what will end up happening will be the rules for sick leave will end up changing which will **** it up for everyone.

The irony is all the righteously indignant will be yelling jumping up and down complaining about loss of rights will conveniently forget the reason which triggered the changes in the industrial act which will require a Dr's slip each and every sick day.

its called a personal protest day you just need an understanding doc also helps to pay cash that way he dosn't have to wait for medicare cheque

can someone name a playstation game that requires LESS skill than driving a train?

remo81 said...

Hey Pooman,
If you stopped your job for a day would it effect anyone?

Not a particularly clever comment.

pooman is no more insignificant than a train driver

if he stopped his, it wouldn't stop anyone.

if you stopped yours, it wouldn't effect anyone.

if one train driver stopped theirs, it wouldn't effect anyone..

getting together to **** people over is what matters... and justifying your co-ordinated action with "no one says thank you", "my house isn't big enough", "my job is really difficult

nope, I'll make the point again.

A (A meaning single, one, unity, 1, less than 2 and more than zero) train driver stopping his job has no effect. The guys that run the rosta use one of the stand in drivers that they have on call and the train still runs....

I never said anything about degrees and I never said that you didn't have one. This has nothing to do with qualifications, just how difficult a job is and how many people can do it and therefore how much the market deems that the job should receive in pay.

It gets difficult when everyone decides to stop and that is what my point was about. If everyone decides to stop, they're deciding that their profession (and only their profession) needs more cash on the basis that they think they deserve it...

Incidentally, train drivers don't go out of their way to eat at restaurants, drink at pubs, holiday in countries based on whether those people get fair pay - which technically they should if they believe that pay should be based on "fairness" rather than market rates. They should also go out of their way to buy fair trade products and they should never buy anything made in China if they believe that Chinese workers aren't paid enough....

ginger pom said...

can someone name a playstation game that requires LESS skill than driving a train?

Now that would depend on the sort of train would it not?
By the way, you ever driven one?