Protecting the car from the beach

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newguy
newguy
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22 Mar 2012 8:33am
Thought I'd ask for the wisdom of all you water men/ woman on this main forum Basically when you are down the beach for more than half the week, how do you protect your car from damage? (Going to get worse as I now work on the beach too )

Lets just say had I realised I'd end up like this when I took up surfing, I would of just bought a beat up old 4WD rather than a new car of which now the parents (helped chip in a bit) keep ranting on I will end up driving to the ground in a few years time.

I guess the worry is the sea salt, air and sun etc which can damage the car. So how's the best way to prevent any such damage? Would washing the car every week be the best plan of attack? I'm still servicing it and everything by the book.

Cheers all and hope you get some waves this weekend!
DASZIP
DASZIP
SA
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22 Mar 2012 11:16am
HI new guy A simple wash with fresh water after each beach use is a good start. Dont forget to give a good spray underneath and in engine bay. To further protect your pride and joy can be a bit more costly depending on your DIY abillities. A product such as lanolin can be sprayed inside all panels and chasis rails. However to do this properly requires all trims to be removed. Might be best to take to a crash shop for this. There are other products you can use but i find the lanolin spray has less odour. All said and done proper cleaning after each use is always going to be the best and cheapest option.

Happy cleaning
d1
d1
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22 Mar 2012 9:39am
Check if the body is fully galvanized. If it is, don't worry. If it isn't, Turtle Wax every few months.
echunda
echunda
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22 Mar 2012 1:39pm
Car's are a liability and not an asset. (this is your everyday average car, not a collectable etc..)

Do some calculations:

1. What is the current value of the car.
2. Calculate depreciation.
3. Calculate anual cost of washing the car weekly (if you use a car wash)

Work out if this exceeds the depreciation of the car. Some times it's not worth maintaining (except for scheduled maintenance) a car.

MY previous car was kept in IMACULATE condition. Everything was cleaned, every mechanical issue was resolved before it became major, all fluids (including diff and transmission) was changed every year and when the car was written of I got diddly squat for it.

I should've ran it into the ground and given it to a wrecker. I would've saved thousands in the long run.

So, if you've bought a falcon or commodore, wash it once a month and don't worry about salt corrosion. You'll only get a little more for an immaculate car than a poorly maintained car and if it goes through insurance, they don't care if it's a rust bucket, they'll pay you market value (if that's what your policy states)
pweedas
pweedas
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22 Mar 2012 10:59am
How a car handles salty seaside conditions depends a lot on what sort of car it is.

Some european cars such as Volvo etc, are extremely well protected against corrosion and after 30 years of seaside living can still have zero rust with minimal maintenance.
Some of the cheaper cars will be rust buckets in 10 years no matter what you do to stop it.
Rather than make yourself a slave to your auto mo bobble just do as echunda says, wash it maybe once a month and and use your time doing something you like doing.
If you like washing your car then do it every day and see your psychologist when you get a free minute.
My car gets washed when it rains.
youngbull
youngbull
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22 Mar 2012 1:06pm
I purchased the ERPS rust prevention unit for my landcruiser. In 1 year it has seen the beach approx 20 times.
My car has a small amount of rust on the front and rear bar where it has been grinding with rocks. The rest of the car it 100% rust free(that I can find). The other landcruiser that always tags along has rust everywhere.
I don't think they are a fail safe just an additional form of prevention.

You could always keep the interior wheel arches painted, spray fish oil everywhere underneath and under bonnet, grill near window wipers ect... ect... and as said, regular cleaning. Don't go to happy with the polish.

IMO sell it and buy a ****ter NOW...

MavericK040
MavericK040
WA
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WA, 583 posts
22 Mar 2012 12:30pm
A few products that would come in handy are

Saltassault you should be able to get it from a opposite lock store or similar, the army uses it apparently. u water it down and spray it on the underside of the car to neutralize the salt.
however it is difficult to get into the tough areas where the damage really happens.

have a someone with a hoist or pit clean it with that stuff, then spray it with a product call U.P. made by Lanotec.

it stands for ultimate protection i guess its got lanolin in it. but it sprays on like paint and dries clear, lasts ages.

as for the painted bits, if you get any stone chips put touch up paint on the immediately tp prevent rust developing, and keep a good coating of polish on it. makes it easier to wash and keeps the paint protected. also, make sure your door drains are kept clear. they are the little holes on the underside of your door that let water out of the door when it rains etc. they block easily and the water that remains inside the door causes a whole lot of troubles mainly rust.

hmm cant think of much else now.
Davage
Davage
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22 Mar 2012 4:00pm
Are yo parking it at the beach or driving on the beach?
If its just being parked in a carpark on the beach edge then wash it once a fortnight and put some polish on it twice a year. If your driving it along the beach on the sand every day dont worry about it and resign yourself to the fact that it is going to rot. No amount of fish oil, lanaolin or electronic trickery can cope with non stop beach abuse.
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
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22 Mar 2012 6:11pm
Lots of underbody spray as mentioned and the electronic anti rust thing - they charge the whole car -ve or +ve or whatever it is and they work.
Hiko
Hiko
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1229 posts
23 Mar 2012 6:11am
I used to work in a salt refinery everything was two tone white and rust red
Paint manufacturers used to bring test pieces with their latest anti rust creations
When they collected them up they walked out the rusty gate broken men
If there is a solution to this many would like to know and the discoverer would become wealthy The best coating we had in those days was tar epoxy
The electronic thing sounds interesting
Poodle
Poodle
WA
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23 Mar 2012 9:14am
The car charging anti rust things are a con. It's called a galvanic cell - they WILL work if you immerse your car in salt water, but I prefer to keep my old ute dry.

Poods
Chris6791
Chris6791
WA
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23 Mar 2012 10:45am
A mate of mine is a corrosion engineer, I have a vague recollection of having this conversation with her a while back. The electronic anti-rust/corrosion thingies can work under some circumstances but they are current based so you need to complete a circut somehow, which is generally hard to do if you only have rubber wheels contacting the ground???

I've all but given up on the rust in my ute, it's now a beach bunky (minimum 20 hours a week on the beach) and I have a normal sedan to get me around and to/from Perth.
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
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23 Mar 2012 2:06pm
Poodle said...

The car charging anti rust things are a con. It's called a galvanic cell - they WILL work if you immerse your car in salt water, but I prefer to keep my old ute dry.

Poods


All I know is my car has rust and one with equal beach use and similar care has none - when it has the electric zapper thing fitted. Can you expand on why they don't work

Chris, if it is just a charge it dows not need to be earthed - like rubber can become statically charged (balloon rubbed in hair like when we were kids)

Which makes me wonder - can we just screw a sacrificial anode to our cars the same as marine stuff?
firiebob
firiebob
WA
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23 Mar 2012 2:16pm
All good info in the answers above.

Me, I have a 1999 4wd L300 van which are known to rust in front of your eyes. I have been driving to the beach and parking in the seabreeze for 15 years but not on the beach. I used to wash it every week rain hail or shine and polish twice a year and have had no rust but I do use a gal trailer. It's now my 2nd car for work and beach and isn't loved so much, now I'm getting rusty scratches and a small rot spot in the roof gutter. Years ago a mate had one of these in 2wd but same, didn't look after it and it had mobs of rot around the windows in a year. I think dust dirt collects and damp salt air is attracted to it.

New cars are a lot better rust proofed from factory, just wash and love it
firiebob
firiebob
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23 Mar 2012 2:20pm
Mark _australia said...

Which makes me wonder - can we just screw a sacrificial anode to our cars the same as marine stuff?


Yes but you need to keep it wet, I don't really know but might be where the electronic thing comes into play, just saying
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
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23 Mar 2012 2:22pm
firiebob said...

Mark _australia said...

Which makes me wonder - can we just screw a sacrificial anode to our cars the same as marine stuff?


Yes but you need to keep it wet, I don't really know but might be where the electronic thing comes into play, just saying



Sweet - I will attach an anode to the towbar and back into the water when I go sailing.
Easy.
Chris6791
Chris6791
WA
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23 Mar 2012 2:37pm
Mark _australia said...

Poodle said...

The car charging anti rust things are a con. It's called a galvanic cell - they WILL work if you immerse your car in salt water, but I prefer to keep my old ute dry.

Poods



Chris, if it is just a charge it dows not need to be earthed - like rubber can become statically charged (balloon rubbed in hair like when we were kids)



Isn't there a difference between a static charge and an actual circut current? (highschool was too long ago so I don't remember the terminology).

I will email my friend and see what she has to say, she must have some idea about this stuff, her company is springing for an all inclusive work junket to the USA as we speak...
patsken
patsken
WA
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WA, 717 posts
23 Mar 2012 2:52pm
Those WAWA stickers that Mark gave me worked wonders.....



.....to temporarily (at least until it rains in Perth) cover up the rust on my van panels !!
newguy
newguy
654 posts
654 posts
23 Mar 2012 3:09pm
Cheers all. Sounds like washing the car once a week is the go. That'll be the plan of attack. Yeah I know one of you guys said to sell this one off and get an old bomb but it has sentimental value being my first proper car after driving a rustbucket as I was learning
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