Recent Lord Christopher Monckton radio interview

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27 Feb 2010 10:30pm
I would be interested in peoples feedback after listening to this interview.

http://www.kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/Broadcast/Entries/2010/2/27_Lord_Christopher_Monckton.html
petermac33
petermac33
WA
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WA, 6415 posts
28 Feb 2010 6:37am
i listened to entire 1 hour plus, very eye opening!

monckton '' real anger on the part of the people that the ruling class worldwide had effectively betrayed them and was willing to sell away there democracy for this ludicrous notion that CO2 will somehow cause a major change in the climate, when we know perfectly well it won't''.

it's becoming more and more apparent by the day that this man made global warming thing is is a ruse for the setup of a world government.
pweedas
pweedas
WA
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28 Feb 2010 11:03am
Like all arguments, there are exaggerations and a bit of poetic license on both sides. The real situation, as usual, lies somewhere in the middle.
From what I can see, there are a few things that are certain.
We can’t just go on blowing our waste up chimneys and hoping the planet will cope.
However, I have to agree with Tony Abbot that a big tax on everything will NOT fix the situation. A new tax never does. It just makes some overweight shiny pants slugs richer.
Unfortunately it is usually the first action taken by governments of any persuasion because it helps them pay for their promises.

ginger pom
ginger pom
VIC
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VIC, 1746 posts
28 Feb 2010 4:10pm
Stop

Read all of this thread

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=58878&SearchTerms=climate

then post your feedback

Do not start a fresh thread
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
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28 Feb 2010 11:17pm
pweedas said...


From what I can see, there are a few things that are certain.
We can’t just go on blowing our waste up chimneys and hoping the planet will cope.





Why not? People contibute less than 1% of the total greenhouse gas emissions each year.
Is a 50% increase in the last few decades going to cause catastophe?

pweedas
pweedas
WA
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1 Mar 2010 2:07pm
Mark _australia said...

pweedas said...


From what I can see, there are a few things that are certain.
We can’t just go on blowing our waste up chimneys and hoping the planet will cope.





Why not? People contibute less than 1% of the total greenhouse gas emissions each year.
Is a 50% increase in the last few decades going to cause catastophe?




I'm not referring to greenhouse gasses so much when I say "waste" because i don't count CO2 as being pollution.

The problem is that anything we dig up out of the ground has millions of years of stored impurities which have diffused into it from the ground above.
When we heat it or burn it we release millions of years of stored impurities into the atmosphere and spread it far and wide.
Most stuff we dig up is either processed or refined or consumed by heating it and thus releasing the toxic materials. Some of them are extremely toxic even at very small concentrations.
A lot of it is impossible to scavenge out so it is just blown up the chimney.
This definitely is a problem and is generally recognised as such.
Unfortunately, a common solution to this problem is to just build a taller chimmney to spread it even further at a reduced concentration.

It has sort of worked in the past because of the relatively small scale, but with the huge increase in worldwide production over the last 10 years, with even greater production proposed, it is no longer an acceptable option.
It's not so noticeable in Australia because of our big area and high environmental standards. But when you see pictures of the air in China and some parts of Europe, it clearly has reached a critical level.

Thus to my thinking, although i disagree with all the hoo-haa about CO2 and global warming, if it makes us more concious about what we blow into the atmosphere then it is not entirely useless.

cisco
cisco
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2 Mar 2010 1:55am
I don't think anybody is saying that human environmental responsibility is wrong or a bad thing.

What some of us are saying is that governments and mainstream media, controlled by global financial interests, are feeding us an absolute load of codswallop designed to instill fear in the mostly un-thinking general public in order to get the aforementioned "un-thinking general public" to accept far reaching changes to the social order that will limit freedoms, stifle creativity and human growth, cause immeasureable human suffering and further inflate the already overly bloated wealth of the "Inbred Elite".

Wudd, Wong and Gawwett signed up for it.

If that concept makes you feel uncomfortable, insecure or fearful, I suggest there are two directions you can take.

You can put it down to a bunch of crack pot "Conspiracy Theorists", hide your head in the sand and go into denial.

OR

You can investigate further and find out where the real TRUTH lies.

The TRUTH will set you FREE.

Cheers Cisco.
petermac33
petermac33
WA
6415 posts
WA, 6415 posts
2 Mar 2010 8:42am
cisco.....You can investigate further and find out where the real TRUTH lies.

The TRUTH will set you FREE.





the trouble is people by and large do not want to know the truth.

so cisco.....can you stop pushing the truth!.....and go back to watching the 6pm news. [as gospel]

watching a P.G.A golf event yesterday on foxtel,it got me thinking.

these golf superstars on the P.G.A tour,they really do have a life of riley.

do you think for a moment, they want to become aware of all the lies that go on.

they have a great life and would rather not know where the real truth lies.

this is true also for the vast majority of the population.

so cisco, start believing [again] what the mainstream media are saying........ and you will also have a great life.




cisco
cisco
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2 Mar 2010 11:40am
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