Ripping CDs

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Little Jon
Little Jon
NSW
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NSW, 2115 posts
2 Nov 2011 9:47pm
I have one of those CDs which have been protected in some way and I can't play it on the computer or rip it to a MP3.

Is there anyway to rip it to MP3 format.
Haircut
Haircut
QLD
6491 posts
QLD, 6491 posts
2 Nov 2011 9:08pm
try the black nikko pen around the inside / outside of the cd trick (google is your friend)

or

take the SPDIF output of your computer's cd-rom drive and feed it into the spdif input of the computer's soundcard (many have a digital spdif input), and use a free sound editor like Audacity to record the digital signal

or

some soundcards have a "record what you hear through the speakers" option. Again, you can use Audacity to re-record the music digital to digital, but without messing around with cables

all of the above avoid the digital to analogue and back to digital quality degradation. (arguably as good as a perfect copy of the original. 99.99999% won't hear a difference)

if all else fails, take the soundcard's analogue output and feed it back into the line/mic socket and re-record it (some quality loss)


i'm cheap
chrispychru
chrispychru
QLD
7932 posts
QLD, 7932 posts
2 Nov 2011 9:15pm
Haircut said...

try the black nikko pen around the inside / outside of the cd trick (google is your friend)

or

take the SPDIF output of your computer's cd-rom drive and feed it into the spdif input of the computer's soundcard (many have a digital spdif input), and use a free sound editor like Audacity to record the digital signal

or

some soundcards have a "record what you hear through the speakers" option. Again, you can use Audacity to re-record the music digital to digital

all of the above avoid the digital to analogue and back to digital quality degradation. (arguably as good as a perfect copy of the original. 99.99999% won't hear a difference)

if all else fails, take the soundcard's analogue output and feed it back into the line/mic socket and re-record it (some quality loss)


i'm cheap


what about for apple. i hate this thing
Haircut
Haircut
QLD
6491 posts
QLD, 6491 posts
2 Nov 2011 9:17pm
same, but you might need a cheap 3rd party soundcard like a soundblaster audigy or x-Fi etc for the digital input tricks. black texta works regardless, but you need to be accurate
Haircut
Haircut
QLD
6491 posts
QLD, 6491 posts
2 Nov 2011 9:21pm
Doh! sorry, my bad. just realized you said you can't play it on the computer

from what i understand - post 1998, cd/dvd rom drive manufacturers need to incorporate the error checking as part of CD licensing compliance, as well as various other things like DVD region coding, turned on by default to be DVD license complaint. If you turn this off after you buy it, no probs, but for the manufacturer to be allowed to sell it, they must have these things turned on when it's sold. Some manufacturers allow these things to be turned off quite easily, some don't

If you have a very old computer IDE cd-rom drive (2x 4x 8x speed) from early to mid 90's, with spdif output (most did) it's worth hanging onto for the lack of error checking reason

In most cases (even with pre 1998 manufactured drives), typical "ripping" as we know it isn't possible, and you will still need to use the SPDIF digital trick, and play the CD back while recording it digitally
nebbian
nebbian
WA
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WA, 6277 posts
2 Nov 2011 8:21pm
If it conforms to the CD-Rom standard it will display a CD-ROM logo, and will play on your computer.

If the publisher has put some 'protection' into it so that it won't play on your computer, then it doesn't conform to the red book CD-ROM standard and so they're not allowed to have that little CD-ROM logo.

If the logo is present, and it's not playing on your computer, then you are quite within your rights to bring this to the attention of the body that handles the CD-ROM logo, they would be very interested to know about it...
busterwa
busterwa
3782 posts
3782 posts
2 Nov 2011 9:40pm

Above is all b/s
What is it i can download that in 10 min for free! It could quite well be the codec the cd has been written in. You may not have the codec to support the cd.
Sometime you may have to change your media player settings to English etc depending on the country of origin.
It seems like a simple codec problem.

screenshot the fault message and i can offer you help and software that will support the codec.
dinsdale
dinsdale
WA
1227 posts
WA, 1227 posts
2 Nov 2011 9:53pm
nebbian said...

If it conforms to the CD-Rom standard it will display a CD-ROM logo, and will play on your computer.

If the publisher has put some 'protection' into it so that it won't play on your computer, then it doesn't conform to the red book CD-ROM standard and so they're not allowed to have that little CD-ROM logo.

If the logo is present, and it's not playing on your computer, then you are quite within your rights to bring this to the attention of the body that handles the CD-ROM logo, they would be very interested to know about it...

The above is correct. Find a Linux devotee. There are tools to rip anything in Linux.

nebbian
nebbian
WA
6277 posts
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2 Nov 2011 9:56pm
busterwa said...


Above is all b/s


Reference:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Book(CD_standard)
dinsdale
dinsdale
WA
1227 posts
WA, 1227 posts
2 Nov 2011 11:22pm
nebbian said...

busterwa said...


Above is all b/s

Reference:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Book(CD_standard)

Not quite sure who you're answering there. The Wikipedia reference supports what nebbian said, what I understood to be true too. Officially, to carry the CD-ROM logo it must conform to some strict parameters. The article goes on to explain how some manufacturers deviate from the standard.

However, using Linux I've managed to rip many CDs (and DVDs) which have been difficult with the common Windoze tools. ffmpeg is now available for Windoze I think. There can't be much that it can't rip. I assume that it'll do the same in Windoze as it will in Linux. dd is another useful Linux tool for difficult ripping jobs.
busterwa
busterwa
3782 posts
3782 posts
3 Nov 2011 4:22am
1)There is two problems here. 1 is a copy write problem which prevents the "ripping of the cd"

I cant really help because not enough information is given as in is it a dvd cd etc and unsure on the original format.

If you require to rip the cd it is difficult and it may require a crack. You can use software like blindwrite isobuster etc to reproduce the cd.


You can change to multiple format and do all sorts of stuff with it but its very complicated. To crack a protected cd requires knowledge and rewriting into different formats."decryption software"


The other problem is preventing him from watching/listening/ to the cd.

If it is a video etc and you cant view it try using


www.gomlab.com/index.gom
www.videolan.org/
www.codecguide.com/download_k-lite_codec_pack_mega.htm

Windows media player dosent come standard with all codec To play alot of stuff (especially downloaded content) you will need a programe that can read the format.

" just remember if your a younger person using mum and dads computer consult them before you download and install anything ;-)


Haircut
Haircut
QLD
6491 posts
QLD, 6491 posts
3 Nov 2011 10:00pm
there are a few different audio cd protection schemes out there, most deliberately write errors to the cd which standalone players can ignore and still play, but cd-rom drives post 98 are specifically designed not to

one type of error scheme is written on the inner most track and another writes errors on the outer tracks - ala the black texta trick which forces the drive to skip the area if drawn correctly.

The early protected version of Madonna's Greatest hits sold in Aus was one that successfully copied with the texta trick
busterwa
busterwa
3782 posts
3782 posts
4 Nov 2011 11:06pm
so who is the idiot?
the legit purchaser of goods with protection protected cd which doesn't allow the consumer/purchaser to view it at his discretion or or a downloaded version from Russia and Netherlands ' free cracked and watchable?
kiteboy dave
kiteboy dave
QLD
6525 posts
QLD, 6525 posts
5 Nov 2011 5:13pm
To be honest Little Jon you're better off downloading a copy than ripping it yourself.
Far easier and you've purchased it already so I would consider that totally legitimate.
FlySurfer
FlySurfer
NSW
4460 posts
NSW, 4460 posts
6 Nov 2011 12:55am
what's a CD?
busterwa
busterwa
3782 posts
3782 posts
6 Nov 2011 11:37am
FlySurfer said...

what's a CD?

some invention of the 90's now used to hang of fruit trees to scare birds away.

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