Run, Tony, Run!!

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kiteboy dave
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30 May 2012 8:14pm
A simple thread for pics of Tony "Salacious Crumb" Abbott and Christopher "The Poodle" Pyne running for the hills. Salacious, pictured below, has no dignity left after today's episode. He's been attacking the government unceasingly for accepting Thomson's vote, and when Thomson surprised him by crossing the floor to vote with the Libs today, he felt the only option was heading for the hills before the doors were locked.



Here's a few for your amusement:











lightwood
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30 May 2012 8:33pm
I would have assumed that showed dignity kiteboy but what ever floats your boat.
tmurray
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30 May 2012 6:38pm
It was a Thompson stunt to 'force' the Libs into accepting his vote.

I'm not sure who it backfired on, but Abbotts reaction is pretty hilarious - surely the 'dignified' approach is to just accept that in this instance you are voting with him - it's not like Thompsons vote changes the matter that you're voting on. Politics over policy. Again.
dinsdale
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30 May 2012 7:06pm
lightwood said...

I would have assumed that showed dignity kiteboy but what ever floats your boat.

Have to agree. Abbott did the NON-hypocritical thing and effectively nullified Thomson's vote. The truly cynical act was from the lefties (as usual) by trying to trap Abbott, off guard, unaware.

Well played Abbott!
Mr float
Mr float
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30 May 2012 10:08pm
Ton y obviously overdoes the lycra thingy .You will notice that he was a bit slow off the mark and obviously still a bit stiff and saddle sore from the morning ride in the cold Canbrrrrr air
kiteboy dave
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30 May 2012 10:16pm
They didn't effictively nullify anything, once the speaker says 'lock the doors' then they are counted as being present regardless of whether they manage to dive out before the doors are physically locked.

Yes, the sight of them behaving like schoolkids in parliament floats my boat.

This is doing the rounds too
http://youtubedoubler.com/4e82

The Libs senator Mary Jo Hokey-Pokey Fisher has been recently convicted of assault and theft and yet they accept her "tainted" vote quite happily, which demonstrates the hypocrisy of the whole stunt.

OK, red thumb away. . .
mineral1
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30 May 2012 8:48pm
Embarrassed to say this is "our" federal parliament in action
Obnoxious childish antics on display for the world to see

Waterloo
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30 May 2012 11:35pm
mineral1 said...

Embarrassed to say this is "our" federal parliament in action
Obnoxious childish antics on display for the world to see




Yes, how is it that we have one of the worlds leading economies, have just topped the OECD Better Life index and yet our parliament is reduced to this rubbish (fkn funny rubbish tho!!!).

This is our Prime Minister in waiting???

KRudd wouldn't have run for the door, he would have just waxed lyrical,

Little Johnny would have thrown Jo Hockey overboard (thus doing us all a favour),

Keating would have stood his ground and verballed his opponents,

Hawkey would have punched their lights out and ravaged their women,

Malcolm Fraser would have had Quentin Bryce drag Craig Thomson out by the ear like the naughty little school boy he is...

but run, none of them would have run.

This is our Prime Minister in waiting...really???

Would Malcolm Turnbull have run?



tmurray
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30 May 2012 10:26pm
dinsdale said...

lightwood said...

I would have assumed that showed dignity kiteboy but what ever floats your boat.

Have to agree. Abbott did the NON-hypocritical thing and effectively nullified Thomson's vote. The truly cynical act was from the lefties (as usual) by trying to trap Abbott, off guard, unaware.

Well played Abbott!



How is RUNNING OUT OF PARLIAMENT well played? It's like schoolkids refusing to sit next to each in case they catch girl / boy germs.

Bet it's on the news in heaps of countries - almost as dignified as those full on brawls some countries have in their parliaments.

Actually maybe this can be labours secret weapon - just get Thompson to threaten to vote with the liberals on anything and they'll be forced to change their position (kindof like playing opposites), I mean just imagine if Tony didn't totally live up to every promise he's ever made - will the shockjocks start calling him a lier lier pants of fire or something.


surfnsirhiss
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30 May 2012 10:31pm
It keeps reminding me of the closing theme and scenes from a Benny Hill show
Diver
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30 May 2012 10:35pm
What a couple of lightweights
japie
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31 May 2012 11:05am
The whole thing is a distraction. It is not meant to work. It is there to keep people divided. It is there to keep the establishment in place and there to keep the rest in our place, grinding away. It is quite farked and the sooner they bring out the guillotine the better.
Cambodge
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31 May 2012 11:21am
I believe there would have been deeper implications in the voting system if Thompson had successfully "crossed the floor" and the Libs had thereby won the vote to have the gag order lifted. (Which was prevented by Pyne managing to escape before the doors were closed).

If the Libs had won the vote based on Thompson crossing the floor then they would be obliged in the future to grant Thompson a "pair" when (/if?) he has to leave parliament and misses a vote. If Thompson is granted a "pair" then the Libs won't gain anything when Thompson is away from Parliament and misses a vote because someone on the Lib side would miss their vote too and thus cancel out the effect of the Labs having one less vote.

Make sense? Parliamentary system...archaic, confusing, childish...Yes, but a sh!t load better than any other system that's been devised.

Let the games continue...

(One positive from all these antics is...It shows just how stable and mature our system of government is if these are considered to be the important events of our day...No worries about military coups, assassinations, etc. A pretty comfortable life here in Australia).
Jradedmondo
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31 May 2012 11:26am
what a flippin idiot acting like a 5 year old, cant believe that this is the man that wants to lead our country

Jarryd
dinsdale
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31 May 2012 10:28am
Jradedmondo said...

what a flippin idiot acting like a 5 year old, cant believe that this is the man that wants to lead our country

Jarryd

I gather you don't read any posts other than your own. The post before yours explained it well. Loggy could take a read too.

Cambodge said...

I believe there would have been deeper implications in the voting system if Thompson had successfully "crossed the floor" and the Libs had thereby won the vote to have the gag order lifted. (Which was prevented by Pyne managing to escape before the doors were closed).

If the Libs had won the vote based on Thompson crossing the floor then they would be obliged in the future to grant Thompson a "pair" when (/if?) he has to leave parliament and misses a vote. If Thompson is granted a "pair" then the Libs won't gain anything when Thompson is away from Parliament and misses a vote because someone on the Lib side would miss their vote too and thus cancel out the effect of the Labs having one less vote.

Make sense? Parliamentary system...archaic, confusing, childish...Yes, but a sh!t load better than any other system that's been devised.

Let the games continue...

(One positive from all these antics is...It shows just how stable and mature our system of government is if these are considered to be the important events of our day...No worries about military coups, assassinations, etc. A pretty comfortable life here in Australia).




jbshack
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31 May 2012 11:02am
mineral1 said...

Embarrassed to say this is "our" federal parliament in action
Obnoxious childish antics on display for the world to see




It would be good if it was like Taiwan. Then we could see them all punch on. That would be Parliament worth watching
jbshack
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31 May 2012 11:04am
Cambodge said...

I believe there would have been deeper implications in the voting system if Thompson had successfully "crossed the floor" and the Libs had thereby won the vote to have the gag order lifted. (Which was prevented by Pyne managing to escape before the doors were closed).

If the Libs had won the vote based on Thompson crossing the floor then they would be obliged in the future to grant Thompson a "pair" when (/if?) he has to leave parliament and misses a vote. If Thompson is granted a "pair" then the Libs won't gain anything when Thompson is away from Parliament and misses a vote because someone on the Lib side would miss their vote too and thus cancel out the effect of the Labs having one less vote.

Make sense? Parliamentary system...archaic, confusing, childish...Yes, but a sh!t load better than any other system that's been devised.

Let the games continue...

(One positive from all these antics is...It shows just how stable and mature our system of government is if these are considered to be the important events of our day...No worries about military coups, assassinations, etc. A pretty comfortable life here in Australia).


Makes sense thanks
Jradedmondo
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31 May 2012 1:10pm
dinsdale said...

Jradedmondo said...

what a flippin idiot acting like a 5 year old, cant believe that this is the man that wants to lead our country

Jarryd

I gather you don't read any posts other than your own. The post before yours explained it well. Loggy could take a read too.



i do ocasionally choose to read posts other than mine even though i find most of them boring and tedious, im just saying that IMO it was a little childish him trying to run out of parliment like that, i understand why he did it but considering he was the slowest he mose well of not even stood up , considering you think he would be taking votes as he could get them tainted or not

Jarryd
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31 May 2012 11:39am
Should be a rule if you don't understand it don't comment on it..

Second rule if someone explains it and you still don't understand it you definitely shouldn't comment
jbshack
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31 May 2012 12:00pm
SP said...

Should be a rule if you don't understand it don't comment on it..

Second rule if someone explains it and you still don't understand it you definitely shouldn't comment

Agree 100%
We also need a rule for people who can't read..They also shouldn't comment
ockanui
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31 May 2012 2:05pm
The whole episode is laughable especially if you get a chance to hear Dwayne Russell's race call of the event on 774 radio (Melb) raffeale epstein show drive show, not sure how to do a link ,but its very clever ,take a listen
Cambodge
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31 May 2012 3:15pm
Quote: Should be a rule if you don't understand it don't comment on it..



....If we bring in that rule then my productivity at work will increase one hundred-fold 'cos there'll be nothing to read here!
Gorgo
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31 May 2012 4:21pm
Cambodge said...

I believe there would have been deeper implications in the voting system if Thompson had successfully "crossed the floor" and the Libs had thereby won the vote to have the gag order lifted. (Which was prevented by Pyne managing to escape before the doors were closed).

If the Libs had won the vote based on Thompson crossing the floor then they would be obliged in the future to grant Thompson a "pair" when (/if?) he has to leave parliament and misses a vote. ...


Bull****. You're talking about conventions, not rules. The Libs have threatened in the past to not pair votes and have been forced to back down for being unreasonable (such as people on sick leave and paternity leave).

Abbott and Pyne could have easily sat there and called the government's bluff by pointing out that it was a stunt and refusing to be trapped by it. They would have gained a lot of stature from it and the trap would have blown up in the ALP's face.

Instead they saw the trap and jumped into it with both feet and looked like a pair of dickheads.
log man
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31 May 2012 6:09pm
Gorgo said...

Cambodge said...

I believe there would have been deeper implications in the voting system if Thompson had successfully "crossed the floor" and the Libs had thereby won the vote to have the gag order lifted. (Which was prevented by Pyne managing to escape before the doors were closed).

If the Libs had won the vote based on Thompson crossing the floor then they would be obliged in the future to grant Thompson a "pair" when (/if?) he has to leave parliament and misses a vote. ...


Bull****. You're talking about conventions, not rules. The Libs have threatened in the past to not pair votes and have been forced to back down for being unreasonable (such as people on sick leave and paternity leave).

Abbott and Pyne could have easily sat there and called the government's bluff by pointing out that it was a stunt and refusing to be trapped by it. They would have gained a lot of stature from it and the trap would have blown up in the ALP's face.

Instead they saw the trap and jumped into it with both feet and looked like a pair of dickheads.


Totally agree, lets not forget the background to this.

Abbott and Pyne have said they wouldn't "accept" Thomson's vote. What a bull**** theory that is. You can't not accept someones vote. It's their vote and they'll cast it wherever they want. The vote counts!! And by the way, Abbott has consistently refused pairs......it's what makes him such a desperate, evil **** wit
tmurray
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31 May 2012 4:49pm
As a point of interest - he is STILL a sitting member of parliament, he is still THE ONLY representative for his electorate - is Tony suggesting that these people should not be represented (if his vote is so tainted) - doesn't sound very consistent with our democratic process to me.

And does anyone think he wouldn't accept Thompsons vote if he crossed the floor on something significant - say (yet another) motion of no confidence. Principles only count so far.
whippingboy
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31 May 2012 4:58pm
Classic,
He even does a little hop on his way out
Diver
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31 May 2012 5:37pm
tmurray said...

As a point of interest - he is STILL a sitting member of parliament, he is still THE ONLY representative for his electorate - is Tony suggesting that these people should not be represented (if his vote is so tainted) - doesn't sound very consistent with our democratic process to me.

And does anyone think he wouldn't accept Thompsons vote if he crossed the floor on something significant - say (yet another) motion of no confidence. Principles only count so far.


How many motions of no confidence in the Prime Minister have been put?
gazman2
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1 Jun 2012 12:22am
I wonder ///if Abbot had done a hammy running for the door .Would he have been able to claim it on workers comp???
log man
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1 Jun 2012 12:48am
News flash....... Gillard back in front of Abbott in preferred prime minister stakes!!!
Neptune
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1 Jun 2012 1:11am
Waterloo said...

mineral1 said...

Embarrassed to say this is "our" federal parliament in action
Obnoxious childish antics on display for the world to see




Yes, how is it that we have one of the worlds leading economies, have just topped the OECD Better Life index and yet our parliament is reduced to this rubbish (fkn funny rubbish tho!!!).

This is our Prime Minister in waiting???

KRudd wouldn't have run for the door, he would have just waxed lyrical,

Little Johnny would have thrown Jo Hockey overboard (thus doing us all a favour),

Keating would have stood his ground and verballed his opponents,

Hawkey would have punched their lights out and ravaged their women,

Malcolm Fraser would have had Quentin Bryce drag Craig Thomson out by the ear like the naughty little school boy he is...



Chuck Norris would stand there, open his zipper and turkey slap every single person in that room, just because he can.
Poodle
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1 Jun 2012 1:29am
OK I finally watched the vid. Bloody funny. Oh please can't we have an election to end this suffering
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