Shame, both positive and negative

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RockyDude
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4 Jun 2015 9:19pm
Little discussed subject, yet relevent to so very many issues in life.

Can be applied to many topics of discussion, and, in my opinion, closely linked to the "emotion" of embarressment.

It can be a driver for change for the better, or a destructive influence leading to depression.

What are the fundamentals behind the use of words to bring the best outcome for the recipient?

Regards,

cisco
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5 Jun 2015 1:31am
RockyDude said..

What are the fundamentals behind the use of words to bring the best outcome for the recipient?



Correct use of the language used by the deliverer of the words and the receiver of the words having a comprehensive understanding of the language used by the deliverer of the words.

That is an answer to your question.

My question is:- What are you banging on about??
slammin
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5 Jun 2015 6:45am
Cisco, I think it is a shame that you can be so helpful and insightful on such a huge range of topics but when it comes to the op you haven't elucidated a better reply. Perhaps next time show more pride in your wordsmithing and give the op your frank and inciteful understanding.
kiterboy
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5 Jun 2015 9:23am
Censorship of relevent comments is a shame.
cisco
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5 Jun 2015 1:07pm
slammin said..
Cisco, I think it is a shame that you can be so helpful and insightful on such a huge range of topics but when it comes to the op you haven't elucidated a better reply. Perhaps next time show more pride in your wordsmithing and give the op your frank and inciteful understanding.


You have shamed me into it. I will remember that for the future.
Macroscien
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5 Jun 2015 1:10pm
cisco said..

Correct use of the language used by the deliverer of the words and the receiver of the words having a comprehensive understanding of the language used by the deliverer of the words.


That place me immediately outside the crew.
Jupiter
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5 Jun 2015 3:50pm
Ask Derryn Hinch.
7tim
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5 Jun 2015 6:51pm
not sure what you are talking either but here ya go... www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/shame/201305/the-difference-between-guilt-and-shame
Macroscien
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5 Jun 2015 7:03pm
cisco said..


slammin said..
Cisco, I think it is a shame that you can be so helpful and insightful on such a huge range of topics but when it comes to the op you haven't elucidated a better reply. Perhaps next time show more pride in your wordsmithing and give the op your frank and inciteful understanding.




You have shamed me into it. I will remember that for the future.



If only I was smart enough ( and rich ) I would hire Cisco to translate my ideas into his beautiful words.

But I am afraid he could only say :

"unworkable, sorry, translation impossible .."

And that is the real shame.

I mean shame on both fronts because:

a) world could learn good ideas/concepts

b) some other people may enjoy the peomatic translation made without even getting into details or trying to understanding it.
SandS
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5 Jun 2015 9:38pm

pardon ...?
actiomax
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5 Jun 2015 10:13pm
Cisco Raconteur of great skills.
RockyDude
RockyDude
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5 Jun 2015 10:36pm
cisco said..

RockyDude said..

What are the fundamentals behind the use of words to bring the best outcome for the recipient?




Correct use of the language used by the deliverer of the words and the receiver of the words having a comprehensive understanding of the language used by the deliverer of the words.

That is an answer to your question.

My question is:- What are you banging on about??


Cisco,

Quite a valid comment, which causes me to take more care in composing my posts. Beneficial for me. You have successfully shamed me to the point where I have determined to take more care about my grammar.

Surely beneficial for me, yet the post in itself may engender embarressment for those less able to convey their thoughts, who might have a lesser handle on english.

You have made a point on one score, but there are many others, both positive and negative.

I appreciate your post, as I think you understand where I am coming from.

Regards,


Battle
Battle
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6 Jun 2015 2:39am
Agreed RockyDude,

I am embarrassed because I can't quite get a grasp on what the subject matter is. Also my English handle is ....lesser.
Cisco's understanding of where you are coming from is frustrating as well because I can't get a ...... handle....on it. (you see I'm repeating the same words here,
and I can't help it)

It's been a bad day for me.
cisco
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6 Jun 2015 3:32pm
RockyDude said..


You have successfully shamed me to the point where I have determined to take more care about my grammar.



That is a shaming resulting in a positive effect despite shaming being a generally negative act. One can hope that thou art not the only one shamed into a similar determination as thee hast embarked upon.

(I am not entirely sure of the old time grammar there but it is fun anyway. )
RockyDude
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6 Jun 2015 3:02pm
^

Lol!

I thought you would of pickt up on my misteak regarding my referense to gramma when my misteak was actually punctuation in this instance and your latest post has given me renewed determinashion to correct my defishiencies with this also.

Thou hast an extrordinarily entertaining posture on word usage, and I would beseech thee to continue upon the path, wherein thou hast demonstrated thine ability.

Regards,
cisco
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7 Jun 2015 2:22am


Get yer spellin' right an' y'll be on yer way.
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