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Shooting the breeze.

GreenPat

QLD

4107 posts

GreenPat

QLD, 4107 posts

19 Oct 2007 8:16pm

Got my payslip today. The two and a half weeks leave I just took, they forgot to deduct from my balance. But my direct boss knew I took it, and expects me to have very few days leave owing to me.

If I don't mention it for another six months he'll probably forget...

poor relative

9106 posts

poor relative

WA, 9106 posts

19 Oct 2007 6:19pm

dont say a word
deny all knowledge
they will all forget.

gazza

647 posts

gazza

WA, 647 posts

19 Oct 2007 6:19pm

keep it and i am a boss

GreenPat

QLD

4107 posts

GreenPat

QLD, 4107 posts

19 Oct 2007 8:26pm

Would it be the same story if you were my boss?

This will add to the two days I never got docked in February, even though I put the form in

. I put a form in for this one too. Not my problem. If anyone asks I never opened my payslip (which is true most of the time anyway).

[right-click -> 'Mark as Unread']

GreenPat

QLD

4107 posts

GreenPat

QLD, 4107 posts

19 Oct 2007 8:30pm

Come to think of it, they've never docked me any leave since I started with them. Maybe they don't know how.

frant

VIC

1230 posts

frant

VIC, 1230 posts

19 Oct 2007 8:34pm

Obviously you don't do any work as they don't notice if you are there or not.

gazza

647 posts

gazza

WA, 647 posts

19 Oct 2007 6:36pm

Its very hard to get good workers as you know in wa

if he was to find out would he what to risk losing a good worker by causing a scene unless of cause your sh1t then it give him a good reason to get rid of you

i would take a good look at his wages system if i was him before blaming you

GreenPat

QLD

4107 posts

GreenPat

QLD, 4107 posts

19 Oct 2007 8:49pm

quote:
Originally posted by frant

Obviously you don't do any work as they don't notice if you are there or not.

I work 'unsupervised'

. My direct boss is the Australian GM

big gill

649 posts

big gill

WA, 649 posts

19 Oct 2007 7:31pm

run with it, dont tell him, a bit of $$$$ wont matter to them anyway, its your lucky day

Dawn Patrol

1991 posts

Dawn Patrol

WA, 1991 posts

19 Oct 2007 7:47pm

I thought silly questions were not accepted?

TAKE IT. Its not your fault they gave it to you, consider it a bonus you must deserve. If they find out tell them thats what you thought it was. Hehehe.
I know i dont earn much (yeah 10.80 an hour!!!!) but i wish my boss would do that stuff to me. It happens to my mates quite often.

Crooked Pete

QLD

33 posts

Crooked Pete

QLD, 33 posts

19 Oct 2007 10:01pm

I am a firm believer in FATE..... What goes around, comes around and all that sh!t, ......albeit eventually.

having said that, (and here's the really hypocritical part), if it happened to me, I TAKE IT. But then again my boss wouldn't be silly enough to even allow this to happen in the first place.

In the meantime, until fate catches up with you, the three important words are "mark as unread"!

jp747

1553 posts

jp747

1553 posts

19 Oct 2007 8:25pm

i.e. karma???

surfinchick

251 posts

surfinchick

251 posts

19 Oct 2007 8:43pm

I have a similar issue. Did a small consultancy job in August for a new client. Invoiced them and received a cheque as payment. Last week I received a second cheque for the same amount. Do I bank the second cheque and pretend I didn't realise, or send it back and tell them they've paid me twice?

big gill

649 posts

big gill

WA, 649 posts

19 Oct 2007 8:59pm

KEEP IT SURFINCHICK

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DL

659 posts

WA, 659 posts

19 Oct 2007 11:47pm

GreenPat: Do your boss a deal. Say that if he doubles your salary, you will lead a project that will return 4 more weeks per year of productivity out of his entire workforce.

Crooked Pete

QLD

33 posts

Crooked Pete

QLD, 33 posts

20 Oct 2007 5:44am

quote:
Originally posted by surfinchick

I have a similar issue. Did a small consultancy job in August for a new client. Invoiced them and received a cheque as payment. Last week I received a second cheque for the same amount. Do I bank the second cheque and pretend I didn't realise, or send it back and tell them they've paid me twice?

See the big picture, not the short term gain!

If they are a potential long term client for your consultancy practice, then tell them ! By doing so, you will gain their respect and hopefully loyalty (for future big consultancy jobs). You can't put a value on the referrals and good word of mouth than could arise from nothing more than your honesty.

IMHO The long term benefits of telling them far outweigh the short term gain.

wormy

QLD

679 posts

wormy

QLD, 679 posts

20 Oct 2007 8:05am

Yes, general acceptance for us aussies to rip off the boss if possible, however ripping off clients can be frownd upon. You will also feel alot better and carma will come around to you, Do the right thing, Just ask 'Earl'

jquigley

205 posts

jquigley

WA, 205 posts

20 Oct 2007 10:56am

I'm going to take the moral high ground here and say "tell them". A clear conscience (and your reputation) is worth more than a couple of weeks leave pay.

Unless of course you intend using all of the ill gotten holidays to go on kitesurfing safari. In which case we have a whole different ethical conundrum and I'm thinking disregard the advice above, only good can come of 2 weeks doing what is, after all, our true purpose in life.

[}:)]

J-P

Dooverlacker

121 posts

Dooverlacker

121 posts

20 Oct 2007 12:28pm

Karma pfffft!!! This is australia we stole the worlds biggest island off of people who have been here for over 50'000 years. never mind their children and now we have one of the best countries in the world, and that was done mostly by a bunch of criminals. either karma forgot to catch up with us or life's a bitch and u take what u can get when u can get it

[}:)][}:)][}:)]

wormy

QLD

679 posts

wormy

QLD, 679 posts

20 Oct 2007 7:13pm

want ya dummy back

jquigley

205 posts

jquigley

WA, 205 posts

20 Oct 2007 5:57pm

What's this we s..t white man?

J-P

Dooverlacker

121 posts

Dooverlacker

121 posts

21 Oct 2007 6:58am

quote:
Originally posted by jquigley

What's this we s..t white man?

J-P

unless your aboriginal. If u live here u have some responsability by default. Not that all aboriginies have showered themselves in glory in moving towards reconciliation either.

wormy

QLD

679 posts

wormy

QLD, 679 posts

21 Oct 2007 9:31am

I'm trying to figure this out, does this mean in your opinion we should all stand the high moral ground in the aboriginal debate but when it comes to anybody else, well screw them

Mark _australia

23690 posts

Mark _australia

WA, 23690 posts

21 Oct 2007 7:50am

quote:
Originally posted by Dooverlacker
If u live here u have some responsability by default. Not that all aboriginies have showered themselves in glory in moving towards reconciliation either.

How do you figure that people 200 years after the event should bear some blame? Don't tell me you think that racial problems are the modern white australians' fault????

Dooverlacker

121 posts

Dooverlacker

121 posts

21 Oct 2007 7:58am

Thats the problem with morals they seem to have to be so black and white (no pun intended....no really) i think u should put this in perspective one is the near total annihilation of a culture and the other is two weeks holiday pay.Im not some equall right's activist nor a specialist on morals. That was just to reply to jquigly's point. All i was saying with perhaps a little too subtle a sarcasm for u was . I think karma is a load of c#@p

mineral1

4564 posts

mineral1

WA, 4564 posts

21 Oct 2007 10:25am

Greenpat realy easy for you, and there is no other way, and a simple "ask yourself each time"
"What do I do?" regardless of situation or "whats the right thing to do"
Do whats right,

You can not go too far wrong with that.

its real easy

Nothing to do with anything else, religion/creed/ancestry or what ever.
Just do whats right. (And if you have the fortitude and your a bit stumped, just check with your Mum, regardless of her age

)

Dooverlacker

121 posts

Dooverlacker

121 posts

21 Oct 2007 10:51am

quote:
Originally posted by Mark _australia

quote:
Originally posted by Dooverlacker
If u live here u have some responsability by default. Not that all aboriginies have showered themselves in glory in moving towards reconciliation either.

How do you figure that people 200 years after the event should bear some blame? Don't tell me you think that racial problems are the modern white australians' fault????

Im not saying it is our fault just that it is the current generation's resposability to do something about the obvious problems that that caused. regarless of race or creed. i doubt it will forgiven or forgotten otherwise.

big gill

649 posts

big gill

WA, 649 posts

21 Oct 2007 1:42pm

this is becoming very very serious

GreenPat

QLD

4107 posts

GreenPat

QLD, 4107 posts

21 Oct 2007 4:14pm

Not for me, interesting though. I have no deadline on deciding whether or not to tell them have I? So theoretically I need not have any moral quandries at all. Chances are that I'll forget too, look at my leave balance again at Christmas time and think 'hey - cool!'

jquigley

205 posts

jquigley

WA, 205 posts

21 Oct 2007 2:23pm

No Karma!!!!????

Man you gotta get closer to the spirit world ay....

If you gonna be reconcilin with my people you gotta believe in the dreamtime and the 'what goes aroun comes aroun' business, is big time, numba one, blackfulla belief.

That whole bit about takin what you can get when you can get it, I liked that, can I get your address cos my cousin is doin a few break n enters next week only he's bin jail for too long already now so if you don't mind, that would be deadly ay...

J-P

Dooverlacker

121 posts

Dooverlacker

121 posts

22 Oct 2007 3:02am

hey Greenpat it seems iv completely hijacked ur topic here. Sorry dude

didn't meen to .

j-p Giving u my address wouldn't be in line with my beleif's would it your cousin need to get it him self. Sarcasm is obviously not one of your big time beleifs unna budge

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