Shoulder bursitis

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The Grinch
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19 Jul 2007 3:48pm

Has anyone here had or have had shoulder bursitis. (Can't be from windsurfing since there has been no wind).

I've got it (not contagious) and wonder what treatment anyone else has had, and if it was successful.

I had a cortezone injection in my bursa sack (Mmmm) yesterday and the doc really couldn't say if that would work or not!

Any other treaments out there you fit and healthy men have had?



grumplestiltskin
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19 Jul 2007 4:33pm
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The Grinch
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19 Jul 2007 4:39pm
quote:
Originally posted by grumplestiltskin

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Save weight I suppose, I could be like that drummer from Def lepard of the windsurfing community.
mineral1
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19 Jul 2007 4:44pm
Grinch, not up with medical, however if its slang term is "frozen shoulder syndrome" PM and I will let you know how I got mine 95% sorted. Physo link and sports Doc.
Wineman
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19 Jul 2007 11:47pm
quote:
Originally posted by The Grinch
I had a cortezone injection in my bursa sack (Mmmm) yesterday and the doc really couldn't say if that would work or not!



WTF!!!
Not letting anyone near my sack!
Doctors love drugs & injections. Cortezone hurts, rarely work (anecdotal research), & interferes with any other remedy.
(Daughter doing medicine will object & disagree)

Get a good Chiro &/or physio - altho they do tend to compete with each other
decrepit
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19 Jul 2007 10:02pm
I'm no Dr, but I've heard of a lot of bad side effects with cortisone, wouldn't let anybody inject the stuff into me unless there was no alternative and I was desperate.

I've had a lot of good results from the local physio, but I've no idea what bursitis is, just googled it,
here's an aussie version of the snake oil remedy.

www.jointpainremedy.com/

and here's what wikipedia has got to say. Think I'd still take this to my physio.

quote:

Bursitis is the inflammation of one or more bursae, or small sacs of synovial fluid, in the body. Bursae rest at the points where internal functionaries, like muscles and tendons, slide across bone. Healthy bursae create a smooth and almost frictionless gliding surface. With hundreds of them throughout the body they provide this surface for all motion, making movement normally painless. When bursitis takes hold, however, movement that relies on the inflamed bursa becomes rough and painful. Movement of tendons and muscles over the inflamed bursa causes it to become more inflamed, perpetuating the problem.

Causes
Bursitis is commonly caused by repetition of movement or excessive pressure. Elbows and knees are the most commonly affected because they are rested upon more than many parts of the body with bursae and they also get the most repetitive use. Inflammation of bursae can also be caused by other inflammatory conditions such as rheumatoid arthritis. Scoliosis can also be a cause of bursitis of the shoulders although this is rare. Shoulder bursitis is more commonly due to overuse of the shoulder joint and muscles.

The other main cause of bursitis is traumatic injury, which can cause swelling of the bursae. The swelling itself causes irritation because the sac will no longer fit in the small area between the bone and the functionary. When the bone begins to increase pressure on the bursa, bursitis ensues.

Greenroom
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19 Jul 2007 10:33pm
From Dr Decreps google search it sounds much like ganglions?
I have one on the back of my wrist/hand.
About 5/6 years ago it swelled up like a golf ball due to a crash on my bike and I had surgery to get it cut out. I have a 4cm long scare on the back of my wrist and another ganglion which is not as big as a golf ball but its still there.
The doc said he can use a syringe to suck the fluid out but it doesnt remove the sack which always fills back up again due to friction.
So the surgery option gets rid of the sack but if any is left behind it will return. It returned but it sits on the other side of the tendon
grumplestiltskin
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20 Jul 2007 9:11am
quote:
Originally posted by Greenroom

From Dr Decreps google search it sounds much like ganglions?
I have one on the back of my wrist/hand.
About 5/6 years ago it swelled up like a golf ball due to a crash on my bike and I had surgery to get it cut out. I have a 4cm long scare on the back of my wrist and another ganglion which is not as big as a golf ball but its still there.
The doc said he can use a syringe to suck the fluid out but it doesnt remove the sack which always fills back up again due to friction.
So the surgery option gets rid of the sack but if any is left behind it will return. It returned but it sits on the other side of the tendon



Which hand was it Greeny, coz I have my doubts about it being a bike injury and think it is more likely a repetitive strain injury.
The Grinch
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20 Jul 2007 9:29am

Thanks guys for your inputs..

I'm not sure mineral if I have 'frozen shoulder'. I think that is something else.

As much as I understand bursa sacs are all throughout your body wherever a tendon is in contact with a muscle. The tendon moves, the muscle stays still. The bursa sits between. It's like a plastic zippo bag filled with gel. If you rubbed a zippo bag between your hands each hand could move with no friction.
The bag gets 'gritty' when infected and starts to hurt.
I've had it for 8 months and got fed up with it so went to the docs who said to have the cortezone.

Physio might be my next stop.
airhead
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20 Jul 2007 9:52am
Had bursitis in my knee after doing the MCL for the second or third time.

Was around this time I started taking Glucosamine and Omega 3 as well as a small amount of physio (ultrasound), stretching, icing the knee after a session and as much rest as possible.

All good now
The Grinch
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20 Jul 2007 9:55am


Ahh, glucosamin and Omega 3. I also heard about Chondroitin.

I'll try some of that.

Thanks airhead.
airhead
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20 Jul 2007 1:14pm
Yep, the stuff I'm taking is MSM Glucosamine Chondroitin comes in a 1kg container.
getfunky
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20 Jul 2007 2:40pm
I hads similar treatment - a steroidal (as oposed to non-steroidal i.e. nurofen etc) anti-inflamatory injection for my right shoulder that was giving me grief for years. They suspected bursitis. Result was jack s**t of differance.

Up intil that point I had only had x-rays and ultrasounds to identify the prob. The breakthrough came when I finally has an MRI... "hello what have we here?" An impinging bone growth that didn't show on a lesser resolution image.

After 5 years of pain, I finally had an answer. A quick 'key-hole' acromiaplasty (basically getting in one side of the shoulder joint with a glorified drill bit/vacuum and a 'lipstick cam' in the other) to grind back the bone (got a great video of the procedure - look at that bone fly baby!!) and a few months later 90% as good as new. Not as painful as I thought in the 1st week after too.

I highly highly recommend Dr Peter Campbell (a shoulder specialist) he is rated as the best in Perth for this. He did mine at St John's in Subi but I think he also does the gig at Murdoch?

As my left shoulder is folowing suit (bloody rubbish genes) I am holding off until the end of the coming kite season to get the same done. Can't wait....

Good luck bud. If you don't get answers or results push for an MRI.
The Grinch
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20 Jul 2007 4:10pm

Thanks Funky.

Good to hear your shoulder is holding out!
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