You know who you are and yes it is a copy/paste.
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Is this man truly a genius?

An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never
failed a single student before, but had recently failed an entire class.
That class had insisted that Obama's socialism worked and that no one would
be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer.

The professor then said, "OK, we will have an experiment in this class on
Obama's plan"..
All grades would be averaged and everyone would receive the same grade so no
one would fail and no one would receive an A...

After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The
students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little
were happy. As the second test rolled around, the students who studied
little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they
wanted a free ride too so they studied little.

The second test average was a D! No one was happy.
When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F.

As the tests proceeded, the scores never increased as bickering, blame and
name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the
benefit of anyone else.

All failed, to their great surprise, and the professor told them that
socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the
effort to succeed is great, but when government takes all the reward away,
no one will try or want to succeed.



Could not be any simpler than that. Remember, there is
a test coming up. The 2012 elections.

hey cisco, socialism is not communism.
those who strive to achieve are still rewarded, they just help out those less fortunate than themselves on the way.
sounds like a fair plan to me.

youngbull said...

Interesting - Could not agree more. You see it everywhere the slack getting slacker and the workers doing endless overtime to get what they/me wants.


No free rides - not even family.
I also say abolish the dole and introduce food tokens and prepaid rent cards.

Good post,
Give it 10 years in this country, when a majority of baby boomers are retired. The gov might have to make some hard decisions to balance the books.

That is unless you like it Greek style?

Most economies are a mix of capitalism and socialism.

What's the problem? You have just got to get the right mix.

Hey everyone, I'm a Rule Nazi and rabble rabble rabble rabble..

* No abuse, insults or personal attacks
* No foul language
* No trolling
* No inappropriate or illegal material
* No "For Sale" or "Wanted to Buy"
* No business advertising
* No cross posting
* No forum spamming
* No religious or political debates
* No defamatory comments
* No duplicate logins
* No complaints about moderation (email us instead)

barn said...

Hey everyone, I'm a Rule Nazi and rabble rabble rabble rabble..

* No abuse, insults or personal attacks
* No foul language
* No trolling
* No inappropriate or illegal material
* No "For Sale" or "Wanted to Buy"
* No business advertising
* No cross posting
* No forum spamming
* No religious or political debates
* No defamatory comments
* No duplicate logins
* No complaints about moderation (email us instead)

Hey, you even cut and pasted it!

In all seriousness, where does the 'no cross-posting' one come from? That was relevant years ago on network newsgroups, but can you really cross post these days?

I figure most people here wouldn't even know what cross posting is. Ahh, the good old days when someone would cross post something to aus.cars and also alt.religion.evolution... Those were the days.

Corrupt people wreck a socialist country and all the capitalists point the finger
Corrupt people wreck a capitalist country and all the socialists point the finger
So whats the common problem ?

Cisco! this is your crappiest one so far

cisco copied and pasted...

stuff

You're taking the pi$$ right?

But wait! There's more!!!!!

If anyone has a better explanation of the difference between Conservative and Labour/Greens, I'm all ears. If you ever wondered what side of the fence you sit on, this is a great test!

If a Conservative supporter doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one.
If a Labour/Green doesn't like guns, they want all guns outlawed.

If a Conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn't eat meat.
If a Labour/Green is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for everyone.

If a Conservative is gay, he quietly leads his life.
If a Labour/Green is gay, he demands legislated respect.

If a Conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation.
A Labour/Green wonders who is going to take care of him.


If a Conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels.
Labour/Greens demand that those they don't like should be banned.

If a Conservative is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church.
A Labour/Green non-believer wants any mention of God and religion silenced.
(Unless it's a foreign religion, of course!)

If a Conservative reads this, he'll forward it so his friends can have a good laugh.
A Labour/Green will delete it because he's "offended."

Uh oh Cisco,
You are the Alan Jones of Seabreeze

Poodle said...

I'm loving this!! I got a similar email a while back, and been saving it just for this special occasionan...

A young woman was about to finish her first year of university. Like so
many others her age, she considered herself to be Labour Party minded, and
she was very much in favour of higher taxes to support her education and for
more government programs - in other words, the redistribution of wealth.

She was deeply ashamed that her father was a rather staunch blue-ribbon
Conservative, a feeling she openly expressed. Based on the lectures that
she had attended and the occasional chat with a professor, she felt that her
father had for years harboured a selfish desire to keep what he thought
should be his.

One day she was challenging her father on his opposition to higher taxes
on the rich and the need for more government programs.
The self-professed objectivity proclaimed by her professors must be the
truth, and she indicated so to her father.. He responded by asking how
she was doing at university.

Taken aback, she answered rather haughtily that she had a 90% average,
and let him know that it was tough to maintain, insisting that she was
taking a very difficult course load and was constantly studying, which left her
no time to go out and party like other people she knew. She didn't even
have time for a boyfriend, and didn't really have many university friends
because she spent all her time studying.

Her father listened and then asked, "How is your friend Audrey doing?"
She replied, "Audrey is barely getting by. All she takes are easy classes,
she never studies and she barely has a 50% average. She is so popular on
campus; university for her is a blast. She's always invited to all the parties,
and lots of times she doesn't even show up for classes because she's too
hung over."

Her wise father asked his daughter, "Why don't you go to the Dean's
office and ask him to deduct 20% off your average and give it to your friend
who only has 50%. That way you will both have a 70% average, it would be
fair and you would both be equal."

The daughter, visibly shocked by her father's suggestion, angrily fired
back, "That's a crazy idea; how would that be fair! I've worked really
hard for my grades! I've invested a lot of time, and a lot of hard work!
Audrey has done next to nothing toward her degree. She played while I worked my tail off!"

The father slowly smiled, winked and said gently, "Welcome to the
Conservative side of the fence."

You and Cisco should get together and trade ripping stories of politics, ideology, and feminism. .......... PS do you have a phone number for "Audrey"

Poodle said...

But wait! There's more!!!!!

If anyone has a better explanation of the difference between Conservative and Labour/Greens, I'm all ears. If you ever wondered what side of the fence you sit on, this is a great test!

If a Conservative supporter doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one.
If a Labour/Green doesn't like guns, they want all guns outlawed.

If a Conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn't eat meat.
If a Labour/Green is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for everyone.

If a Conservative is gay, he quietly leads his life.
If a Labour/Green is gay, he demands legislated respect.

If a Conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation.
A Labour/Green wonders who is going to take care of him.


If a Conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels.
Labour/Greens demand that those they don't like should be banned.

If a Conservative is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church.
A Labour/Green non-believer wants any mention of God and religion silenced.
(Unless it's a foreign religion, of course!)

If a Conservative reads this, he'll forward it so his friends can have a good laugh.
A Labour/Green will delete it because he's "offended."

OK,OK, I'll have a go. With these things it's always really hard to start somewhere because the're usually concocted overseas by people with other agendas and barrows to push. So these rants usually don't fit a local scenario and often the're purpose is to dog whistle the gullible into a state of anxiety. So "messages" about pensioners getting paid less than asylum seekers strike a chord in middle Australia but originate with right wing bloggers in the states. ANYWAY, I think you'll find it was your own glorious leader Howard that introduced gun control......... AND GOOD ON HIM* "if a conservative is gay he quietly lives his life" NO...sorry... not "quietly", however he ****ing well wants to lead his life... legislated equality,not respect. YUK, what a horrible attitude.* "if a conservative is down and out he thinks how to better his situation"...... Everyone tries to better their situation, some people can't and as a society we catch them and try to help, then again we could follow your train of thought and implement the US healthcare system?????.... I thought not, ...... and while we're at it lets get rid of your parents pension, they really should have tried harder???* "if a conservative doesn't like a talk show host........" No, look it may have escaped your attention but as someone who has been interested and active in politics for nearly 40 years, I have not seen anything like the biased, one sided, barracking that has come from the commercial media since the election of the Gillard Government...... It is overwhelming, it's unfair, it's undemocratic and, in the case of the Greens, it's personal, and it's unrelenting. * "if a conservative is a non believer......."I'm not really sure what your getting at here but I think it could be the issue of Chaplains in schools. Well my side of politics believe in the separation of church and state, and I thought your side did too. And if your not prepared to support the Chaplains being Hindu, or seventh day adventists then you're playing favourites. the Chaplains should be qualified Child psychologists not do gooding christians* "if a conservative reads this he'll forward it to his friends........", Well only if he didn't like his friends and he'd run out of funny youtube cat videos to annoy them. * "a Labour/ Green will delete it because he's offended......", no not offended, bemused,...no ......... exasperated that someone could... a/ think this is good. or b/ display their ignorance as a badge of honour.

getfunky said...
Been to a GP lately Cisco? Get a heart check (on the govt) next time. Maybe they will find one.. maybe they will give you some bandaids and tell you to GTFO!

You, sir, get a green thumb and a smily face for the best comment so far.

evlPanda said...
The flaws in both systems are usually human traits - corruption, power and greed.

Do you really believe that human traits are corruption power and greed? Some would even appear to believe that they are genetic.

I reckon it is a completely false premise.

I believe that it is the system that corrupts.

Have a think about it. If we evolved to where we are now through the generally accepted path of evolution there is no way we could have got here with human traits you describe. It would just not have been possible because, like the majority of social primates, the well being of the individual is entirely reliant on the well being of the group. There are still vestiges of this today if you look to PNG, Kalahari bushmen and some isolated tribes in the Amazon.

There is no corruption within their groups, very little violence. They cannot survive without a very high level of cooperation. This results in an incredibly strong social structure all of which contributes to the groups survival.

I believe my ancestors lived in this way so where did it all go wrong? Of course if you are and Adam and Eve man then the argument is not for you

Poodle said...

But wait! There's more!!!!!

If anyone has a better explanation of the difference between Conservative and Labour/Greens, I'm all ears. If you ever wondered what side of the fence you sit on, this is a great test!

If a Conservative supporter doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one.
If a Labour/Green doesn't like guns, they want all guns outlawed.

yada yada dribble dribble alan jones for PM

Congratulations you're forwarding (half of) the same brainless drivel chain email as my elderly rellos. This what I sent back to them.
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This annoyed me enough to respond. Not looking for an argument or even a reply.
I'm not a labor/green fanatic, but I certainly wouldn't vote for libs under that jug-eared goose. I probably would have voted for them under anyone else.

For a start the email makes (in smug tones) the dangerous assumptions that:
all poor people are that way due to laziness
All well off people are that way due to honest hard work
All government programs benefit poor more than rich
Secondly it's a poor rip off of an American email, just with the words republican/democrat/college substituted.
Wrong or irrelevant for our different political scenario
For a start there's no real difference between our parties and their supporters

If a Liberal doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one.
If a Labor/Green doesn't like guns, they want all guns outlawed.
This is for a US audience and irrelevant. Didn't our one and only gun debate/law change happen under Howard after martin bryant?

If a Liberal is a vegetarian, he doesn't eat meat.
If a Labor/Green is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for everyone.
Errr what? not in this country.

If a Liberal is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.
If a Labor/Green is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.
So.. don't fight for equal rights if that's what you believe in?


If a Liberal is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation.
A Labor/Green wonders who is going to take care of him.
Generalise much? That's a stupid assertion.


If a Liberal doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels.
Labor/Greens demand that those they don't like be shut down.
possibly relevant for US only.. but I've never heard of it. Padding for a dumb email.


If a Liberal is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church.
A Labor/Green non-believer wants any mention of God and religion silenced. (Unless it's a foreign religion, of course!)
I'm comfortable with that. The best religious people are very quiet about it. There's far too much religious influence in US politics.


If a Liberal reads this, he'll forward it so his friends can have a good laugh.
A Labor/Green will delete it because he's "offended."
Well D'uh. Is it not right to be "offended" (in unneccessary quotes) after a string of insults?