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BabaORiley
BabaORiley
WA
434 posts
WA, 434 posts
10 Jun 2011 8:01am
Bit of advice needed.
Looks like i may be getting offered a redundancy 70 - 80k.

STAY: Job pays 95k annually for 8 hour shifts, set roster and home to wife and kids every night. Can return as a casual after 3 years if there are jobs going.

GO: Take the package and try get a job up north, have nothing teed up yet and only skills are machine driving. eg: cn, gantry and heavy fork tickets.

What should i do?
BabaORiley
BabaORiley
WA
434 posts
WA, 434 posts
10 Jun 2011 8:55am
Help please?
AquaPlow
AquaPlow
QLD
1066 posts
QLD, 1066 posts
10 Jun 2011 11:31am
Line something up north then jump -
Advice is a bit base-less without knowing how the budget looks. (This is just the $ budget - the social one can be tricky).
If you have $95k coming in and $95k going out then look before U jump
If you have $95k coming in and $45k (mandatory spend) then do some research - jump use the time to skill up and go North.

Out of town work is best enjoyed w/o a young family as a rule but there are plenty of exceptions.

I had a ball travelling and time-off on rigs as a kid.

Good general tip is always keep skilling up.

AP
busterwa
busterwa
3782 posts
3782 posts
10 Jun 2011 9:32am

If your young and single with a house mortgage i recommend taking the money and doing a stint up north of if your young and single and require it for a house deposit.

Because you have a family its a greater priority to be home every night I would recommend staying until you are eligible for retirement then take an even bigger redundancy.
I think alot of redundancies are to get ride of "dead wood" as such
Also i think that for some people (depending on the debt situation would benafit from the redundancy) but if you can afford to live comfortably and are happy on the wage you are on stay !
GPA
GPA
WA
2529 posts
GPA GPA
WA, 2529 posts
10 Jun 2011 9:32am
Hey Baba,

Hard to answer without knowing your age and job opportunities... and age of your kids (and how well your wife will cope with you having an away job).

If you take the package have you thought about getting into commercial construction rather than mining? This would allow you to stay local and maintain the family time...
sbray
sbray
SA
350 posts
SA, 350 posts
10 Jun 2011 11:07am
Hi Baba,

The essence of your post suggests that your redundancy will pay 85% of a years wage.

There are many variables to your personal situation that are not known. This makes any information regarding your situation difficult to compress into a simple solution.

Things to consider;

Support for you and your family (centrelink etc.) may not be available untill you use certain chunks of your payout, eg. holiday pay, long service leave etc.

This may impact your situation if you cannot get immediate work.

Is this voluntary or forced redundancy?
What time frame have you got before redundancy offers are ended?
Do you feel that you are in the targetted line up.

If you have time, hit the phones and start writing employment applications.
this may give you a better insight to what is available to you.

Do you like your current job?
If yes then stay !
If you are targetted for redundancy (non-voluntary), there is usually nothing you can do about it, their decision.....move on.

If you are basing the decision as a grab for a payout and get employment immediately,(i.e. have a job to go to, giving the same satisfaction) do it.

If not there are risks to you and your family that only you and your family can weigh up.

I have been through 8 sets of redundancy situations, continued working through most, took one voluntary (pseudo forced) and one forced (business closed).

You do survive!!

Man up, make a decision best for you and your family situation then make it work !

Fossil



Prawnhead
Prawnhead
NSW
1317 posts
NSW, 1317 posts
10 Jun 2011 11:45am
BabaORiley said...

Bit of advice needed.
Looks like i may be getting offered a redundancy 70 - 80k.

STAY: Job pays 95k annually for 8 hour shifts, set roster and home to wife and kids every night. Can return as a casual after 3 years if there are jobs going.

GO: Take the package and try get a job up north, have nothing teed up yet and only skills are machine driving. eg: cn, gantry and heavy fork tickets.

What should i do?

probably don't ask for reliable advice from a bunch of internet nerds like us !!
if only someone would offer me 70-80 k to stop working!!!
anyway .............
talk to an accountant or financial advisor.....no point taking the cash if the taxman takes half... as big kerry (packer) was fond of saying "it's every australians' job to minimise their tax ...those p*&cks don't spend it well enough for me to give it away to them ".....enviable situation to be in...as i don't have any dependents and no -one else to consider ...Me I would be taking the cash in a flash and going on holidays for a few years..ie "fool and his money is soon partying"...
your family considerations move the tryline quite a fair bit from a financial viewpoint......maybe just sit down with your missus and "do the numbers" on how much you need to get by/live well/ be happy baba....hard one eh?

otherwise if you hate the job your doing then its a cinch!!
nice to have a choice "choose wisely grasshopper"
bit of cliche' but a good one

“Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.”

or on the other hand

"Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!"
— Hunter S. Thompson
BabaORiley
BabaORiley
WA
434 posts
WA, 434 posts
10 Jun 2011 10:30am
cheers for views folks.

I'm 35, 3 kids ages 5 to 9, i like my current job but of late been living pay to pay and could do with a bit of financial help to steady the ship so to speak and it is voluntry redundancy.
Squid Lips
Squid Lips
WA
708 posts
WA, 708 posts
10 Jun 2011 12:43pm
Eddie would go
Gizmo
Gizmo
SA
2865 posts
SA, 2865 posts
10 Jun 2011 3:04pm
I went through what your going through about 10 years ago, I took the money (3 x annual income) and ran. I was already doing a part time job which I continued to do.
I put the money into the mortgage and reduced it to 5k owing so I could withdraw later, which I have done to replace one of the cars.
My life now is better now just working casual and a lot less stress but $$ wise earning about the same as when I left 10 years ago.
If you need all your income to meet ends then stay, a lump sum might solve a few problems now but will become a fighting point later. With school age kids the regular work would be MUCH better than casual. And just a thought if they are wanting people to leave your employment, companies in the similar industry would be also doing the same.
The employment in Australia has switched from full time permanent to casual and why... better for the employer = more cost effective= less wages costs / more flexability = less $$ in your pocket.

In your case and what you have said stay..... till they force you to leave but in the mean time search very hard + very fast, if you can get another FULL time job NOW, take the money and run.
patsken
patsken
WA
717 posts
WA, 717 posts
10 Jun 2011 3:30pm
My 2 cents worth is ......

......to remember that as your kids get older they cost a lot more to run.

If it's a close call on your wages now then make sure any job you move to will pay more.
GalahOnTheBay
GalahOnTheBay
NSW
4188 posts
NSW, 4188 posts
10 Jun 2011 6:46pm
Gizmo said...

In your case and what you have said stay..... till they force you to leave but in the mean time search very hard + very fast, if you can get another FULL time job NOW, take the money and run.


+1

While you should be able to find a job in a year (assuming the part of the economy you work in isn't stuffed), even a few months between can become stressful as you see your bucket of money (redundancy payment) running down.

Some other things to keep in mind: your redundancy payout is taxed at a reduced rate, but I'm not sure how it would work tax wise if you (say) took redundancy today and rolled in to a job paying the same amount tomorrow.
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