Steve Irwin is dead!!!!

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junior freestyle
junior freestyle
QLD
546 posts
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4 Sep 2006 2:49pm
The Croc hunter is dead!! He was killed doing what he does best. He was in north QLD and was stung by a sting ray. and now he i dead. just to repeat Steve "croc hunter" Irwin is dead!! wow

nebbian
nebbian
WA
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4 Sep 2006 1:38pm
Crikey!
Pugwash
Pugwash
WA
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4 Sep 2006 1:51pm
Sniff Sniff cry-key
garynoel
garynoel
WA
260 posts
WA, 260 posts
4 Sep 2006 2:06pm

Poor Steve...
Atleast he was doing what he loved.
racycoot
racycoot
WA
315 posts
WA, 315 posts
4 Sep 2006 2:32pm
and i thought he was immortal
roach
roach
WA
25 posts
WA, 25 posts
5 Sep 2006 7:30pm
wouldn't have happened if he had've been wearing 30+ sunscreen. Cause it protects you from dangerous rays!
roach
roach
WA
25 posts
WA, 25 posts
6 Sep 2006 7:52pm
are you serious backloop? It's a joke
Haircut
Haircut
QLD
6491 posts
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7 Sep 2006 1:06pm
quote:
Originally posted by backloop

How should i know? where i come from there arne not such dangerous creatures. and 30+ sunscreen is also not verry common.




or humour
KAOS69
KAOS69
WA
1012 posts
WA, 1012 posts
7 Sep 2006 4:51pm
he was loud and proud he put his money where his mouth was , he was a son , he was a father , he was a mate , he was a bloke who gave a **** about the world he lived in, but most of all he was a true son of australia .
your jokes are in very poor taste but than again your proberly not aussies
r.i.p steveo
roach
roach
WA
25 posts
WA, 25 posts
8 Sep 2006 2:10pm
As a matter of fact i'm an old queenslander born and bred who was surfing the sunny coast long before irwin was in diapers. I agree with GERMAINE GREER who stated that the animals have got their revenge. Sure the guy was a conservationist but he was also irritating, and annoyingly child-like, and should have left the poor bloody animals alone. It was only a matter of time. And for his money hungry executive producer Stainton shedding his 'crocodile tears' on the tele, the question is who now will he rely on to rocket his bank balance further into the multi-millions? Maybe he'll give the barefoot bushman another go after he shafted him for the croc-hunter! Or maybe he'll give David Attenborough a call ( geez, seems that his 'observe but don't touch' documentary style has worked for err..umm, 40 odd years). So Kaos, you like many other suckers out there don't see the larger picture. Install a brave but silly puppet as a TV presenter, identify the deadliest creatures for him to play with ...and see what happens. Talk to some educated australians and see what kind of response you get!
Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14968 posts
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8 Sep 2006 4:34pm
hi roach,

so you must know steve and his dad personally?
Pugwash
Pugwash
WA
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8 Sep 2006 3:54pm
quote:
Originally posted by roach

So Kaos, you like many other suckers out there don't see the larger picture... Talk to some educated australians and see what kind of response you get!



Harsh! Is this what being an educated Australian is all about? Attacking an individual, not just his beliefs!
roach
roach
WA
25 posts
WA, 25 posts
8 Sep 2006 5:22pm
I believe it's everybody's democratic right to express an opinion. Freedom of speech is the right of all, even the educated!
kiterdan
kiterdan
WA
680 posts
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8 Sep 2006 5:49pm
Perhaps he didn't come across great to some people (I admit, myself included). At the same token, australia didn't just lose an tourism ambassodor, his daughter and son didn't just lose her dad, his wife a husband, the world lost the man at the forefront of conservation. No matter how he did it, at least he cared. And he brought a lot of happiness to a lot of people (especially the kids). What are you going to do when there's no more steady reliable seabreeze cause the world's sea temperature has risen a few 'non-concernable' degrees?

We'll drive ourselves to extinction, we don't need terrorists or any of that other ****.

And we sure as hell don't need that woman. If Germaine Grear is all about feminism and equal rights, then she wouldn't mind if I gave her punch in the face...hell, if some old fat, obnoxious brat sitting on her fat arse commented about my old man in that manner, I'd have a right go.
Theres a time and place for stuff like that. At least wait till his family have grieved...talk about being an embarrassment to australia...****ING IDIOT.

R.I.P Steve Irwin
Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14968 posts
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8 Sep 2006 7:50pm
quote:
Originally posted by roach

I believe it's everybody's democratic right to express an opinion. Freedom of speech is the right of all, even the educated!



yeah but if you don't know him then how can you possibly have an educated opinion on anything he has done?

i guess you don't look so educated now.
md74
md74
QLD
1064 posts
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8 Sep 2006 10:03pm
hold on a sec! Germaine has snuck onto the forum as "roach"

let the guy RIP mate.

Show some respect to a human, good bad or whatever that lost his life, and respect to his family.

Pugwash
Pugwash
WA
7733 posts
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8 Sep 2006 8:07pm
quote:
Originally posted by roach

I believe it's everybody's democratic right to express an opinion. Freedom of speech is the right of all, even the educated!



Thanks for stating the blaringly obvious. I am not commenting on your argument. It is perfectly valid. I am commenting on the condescending comments, in which you imply that others are uneducated, and therefore their arguments are incorrect.

I think your comments are rude. You should apologise to KAOS69.

Pugs
md74
md74
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1064 posts
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8 Sep 2006 10:12pm
off topic but, the true sign of an uneducated person is, to try to be condescending to others. Apologies to all, Roach, Im sure Im not alone in asking you to please keep your tastless comments and judgements of others to yourself. Maybe that is showing your true intelligence.

Thoughts go out to Steve's wife and children.
Windsurfer
Windsurfer
202 posts
202 posts
8 Sep 2006 8:31pm
quote:
Originally posted by roach

As a matter of fact i'm an old queenslander born and bred who was surfing the sunny coast long before irwin was in diapers.


So you were surfing when you were 5? I believe Steve was 44 and you are 49? Diapers? Isn't the aussie word nappies? Hmmm?

RIP Steve Irwin and my thoughts are for your wife and children
KAOS69
KAOS69
WA
1012 posts
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8 Sep 2006 9:02pm
so roach if iam a sucker that belived that steve did care about the enviroment ( it seems he fooled a few of us) you must be one of those special people who thinks that the world should revolve around them . sure your entitled to an opinion but when your opinion is putting sh%t on a dead man iam not sure if it is an opinion or a bigoted remark .
man you must have been away from QLD for a long time maybe you should go back and learn what respecting the dead means
what have you done lately that didnt benefit yourself ?
stamp
stamp
QLD
2800 posts
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8 Sep 2006 11:04pm
hey roach, Steve Irwin may have been "irritating and child-like" as you say, but your pompous and patronising comments are worse than anything he ever said.
RIP croc man
unclechops
unclechops
47 posts
47 posts
9 Sep 2006 7:22am
i have a uni deree and 2 trade certifications roach and me stills finks you are a w%nker . so i would like to make a educated reply and say you dont speak for all the educated australians out there, perhaps just the white group you belong too
Shane
Shane
WA
202 posts
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10 Sep 2006 4:33pm
Wow! This reaction against Roach is a bit of a worry. Surely we can all have a bit of respect for each others opinions. I think I do. For what it's worth, I think Germaine Greer made a huge mistake by making her statements so soon after Irwin's death but her general message was not aimed at him or his family but rather the irritation she felt due to the ridiculous, over the top reaction that the media (typically) and some of the pubic have displayed for the death of someone they have never met. The reporting of the matter on "A Current Affair" was totally biased to the point of being basically redundant and the interview questions directeed to Greer were pre-emptive and opinionated, so she didn`t really have a chance to show her case in a good light. As we all know, current affair shows get better ratings if they can manage to stir up the hornet's nest as much as possible, so their reporting is hardly ever done objectvely. Just don`t get sucked in.
decrepit
decrepit
WA
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10 Sep 2006 6:19pm
Well said Shane, we're too manipulated by media.
stamp
stamp
QLD
2800 posts
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10 Sep 2006 8:34pm
i think most people were taking issue with roach's condescending tone towards others he thinks are uneducated, not his argument itself.
greenleader
greenleader
QLD
5283 posts
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10 Sep 2006 11:47pm
today i was up at jumpinpin in the boat with my wife, daughter and family friends.
as we went to anchor near the beach a large stingray glided away, we all yelled "crikey"
steves legacy will always bring a smile to our faces!
he was a larger than life aussie bloke.
harsh words about him wash off like water off a ducks back.
he is remembered fondly, that is the most important thing.
hardie
hardie
WA
4133 posts
WA, 4133 posts
10 Sep 2006 10:30pm
quote:
Originally posted by roach

I believe it's everybody's democratic right to express an opinion. Freedom of speech is the right of all, even the educated!




mmmmmmmmmm…..Educated??? Free Speech???

Does being educated and living in a country with free speech give one the right to be insensitive? To offend others?

Not to your Taste, Steve Irwin??..... Couldn’t quite keep that to yourself, particularly at this time of grieving for many, but in particular his family, a young wife who has lost a husband and a father to her children, and two young innocent children who want to know when Daddy is coming home? This is what some of the people here are upset about, that someone is prepared to put their own ego’s needs ahead of a tragedy for a young family!!!!

You couldn’t quite help yourself, you had to put your own ego ahead of other peoples need to express their empathy with Steve’s bereaved family, and who are also feeling some of their own sadness and grief about what has happened. In a sense it brings us all closer to our own mortality and what it will mean for our own loved one’s.

Hey, maybe you just made an innocent error originally with the sunscreen joke, you could quickly and easily have apologised, we all make mistakes, I make many every day (too many!!)…..but no…… the ego needed to defend and justify the indefensible?

Well I guess freedom of speech works both ways, and now people are freely expressing themselves in response to your freedom of speech.

I’m particularly fascinated by this education issue (an obvious attempt at justification?)……..,it is very interesting to me, does it mean that if you are an intellectual you have to denigrate what Steve Irwin was doing……… Not enough IQ in what Steve was doing? Not high brow enough, too many “crickey’s” in his speech…………. Never mind he had an ability to communicate and connect with a majority of Australians and people around the world…. That doesn’t count I suppose, he was too theatrical and simplistic for some I guess?

I’m particularly fascinated by your imputation that if one is educated, one will not appreciate what he did, and also see through the showmanship, and see what he did as a shallow exploitation of animals and nature to make copious amounts of money?? Is that a personal opinion or a the truth of the universe?

Being educated myself I would like to strongly disagree with your analysis of Steve Irwin’s behaviour and motivations. I have a university degree (Big deal), and 2 post-graduate university degrees (Even lesser big deal),….. and “By Crickey I loved him!!!!!!!!” My wife has 4 university degrees (She makes no big deal of hers either) and she loved him too!!!! How does that work?? Maybe we didn’t judge him through a negative prism of distorted perception, maybe we just accepted him for what he was, maybe IQ isn’t as important as EQ, maybe EQ is more valuable than IQ??? I wonder??? That’s what’s been expressed here, emotional intelligence, empathy and connection with the sadness and loss.

Long live freedom of speech, though when used irresponsibly, always has some negative consequences.

In time, when emotions have subsided, it may be appropriate to analyse the whole Steve Irwin phenomenon, I would also like to debate one or two issues about what he did, but not yet, it’s too early!!!

The rare but serious hardie
Windsurfer
Windsurfer
202 posts
202 posts
11 Sep 2006 9:15am
quote:
Originally posted by hardie
I’m particularly fascinated by your imputation that if one is educated, one will not appreciate what he did, and also see through the showmanship, and see what he did as a shallow exploitation of animals and nature to make copious amounts of money?? Is that a personal opinion or a the truth of the universe?


I watched 60 Minutes last night with the Irwin interview. I have always liked Irwin for his energy towards conservation and the environment. He said along the lines of not needing a flash car and gold plated dunning but he wanted to put every cent he had in buying land and using it for educational purposes etc etc etc. You just gotta look at his waldrobe? I'm guessing he didn't have flash cuff links and fancy bow ties? I never recall seeing him in a lamborgini? I'm convinced that he didnt die wealthy in the sence of self financial wealth but a wealth of knowledge of the environment in which we live and a satisfaction that he was himself who educated the world in his way on important issues. Its now up to us to do what we want with this knowledge. take it or leave it
hoop
hoop
1979 posts
1979 posts
11 Sep 2006 11:49am
Funny that people referring to themselves as educated use a thread about Steve Irwins death to argue amongst each other about who is more educated than the other and list off how many degrees they have.
The poor bugger is dead,you either liked him or you didnt.
R.I.P Steve.
jester56
jester56
QLD
50 posts
QLD, 50 posts
11 Sep 2006 10:04pm
it wasn't that long ago that australians and especially the media crucified and ostrisised steve irwin over an incident with his son and a crocidile [which the media blew out of proportion for the sake of ratings] and now he is australia's favorite son . just an observation on my part . whether you liked what he portrayed on television or not there is no doubt that the money he made fuelled his conservation efforts as his park is one of the few that has survived and there is no way it could have survived on gate takings alone and after all television is supposed to be entertaining . i will get off my soap box now and by the way i am not a well educated man just a busted arse electrician
Windsurfer
Windsurfer
202 posts
202 posts
11 Sep 2006 8:48pm
I beg to differ with you Jester my good brother. Try and get the average blue coller worker to explane fault loop impedience? One of the smartest trades around. Working with electricity aint no button pushing monkey job. Move to WA and get a FIFO job for $166k
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