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japie
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19 Nov 2011 12:17am
Over the past twelve years I have had a succession of lesions burned from my scone with dry ice or removed by surgery. Last summer I had two that had progressively got worse and were removed by surgery which involved fifteen stitches in one and a hospital visit to a sugeon for one on my ear.

At the advice of a specialist I used a course of Effudix with misgiving. It is a chemo cream and can have bad side effects. Anyhow I used it without mch more than some inflamation and it go rid of about 60% which is a pretty crap result as I am aware through experience that every single one that remained had the potential of turning "nasty".

Anyhow about nine weeks ago I got pretty ill with flu that really hamered my throat. At the same time a lesion on my arm grew "nasty"I have not fealt that ill since 1996 so I took a huge leap and decided to smarten my act up.

I had been doing a bit of surfing about cancer and decided to buy Robert O Young's weight loss Alkaline diet book because it had a large section on recipes and when it arrived I waded into it. I won't go into the details other than to say I used none of the products that he sells but found a look alike green wheat grass powder and instead of buying a water ioniser for $1200 I alkalise my water with sodium chlorite four drops to a liter.

The results are nothing short of astonishing. All of the lesions on my head have virtually disappeared including a troublesome one on my eyebrow. The one on the back of my arm has shrunk so that it looks like a receding wart.

I have not slept during the day for six weeks, think nothing of cycling to work 25 ks when there is no wind( biggest hill four metres), have been eating like a horse and have boundless energy.

I have lost TWLEVE kilograms which I did not think I was carrying. I can see my stomach muscles for the first time since I stopped playing footy and aside from the cycling I have done absolutely nothing strenuous - we all know there hase been bugger all wind

I have always been sluggish in the morning and was a bad snooze button user. Now I am getting up as soon as the alarm goes off half an hour earlier than I usually do and getting out of bed without hesitation. The diet involves no grog but last weekend I went up to the dunes with a case of Pale Ale and drank half of it. I slept beneath my kite on a doona on the sand and was up at dawn and woke up hungry





BulldogPup
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18 Nov 2011 9:26pm
^^^^^ fark! ..... tough stuff , hang in there jap & glad to hear things are picking up for ya mate! - Pup.
Kaz1983
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18 Nov 2011 11:51pm


Just thought I'd contribute... carry on.

EDIT: just read some of your OP, rough stuff man -hope your feeling better. :)
petermac33
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OceanBlue64
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19 Nov 2011 7:06am


What a load of sh!t!! With any cancer, time is of the essence. The parents carry on in delaying treatment sealed the poor childs fate, not the chemo treatment.

Having been through the whole cancer, surgery, chemo thing myself I understand that chemo can be an unpleasant experience but if the treatment is applied early enough, chemo can be a very successful thing. Surely the 6 mths of side effects are worth paying for a lifetime of living??????
Also the chemo treatments are being developed all the time so that they target the tumours- a bit like a snipers bullet rather than the shotgun approach. From what I gather they are now looking at attaching the chemo drugs to nano particles which are too big to pass through the blood vessel walls but are able to be absorbed by the tumours.
Radiation treatment can pinpoint the tumours with amazing accuracy giving virtually no burning or other side effects.
OceanBlue64
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19 Nov 2011 7:28am
japie said...


I had been doing a bit of surfing about cancer and decided to buy Robert O Young's weight loss Alkaline diet book because it had a large section on recipes and when it arrived I waded into it. I won't go into the details other than to say I used none of the products that he sells but found a look alike green wheat grass powder and instead of buying a water ioniser for $1200 I alkalise my water with sodium chlorite four drops to a liter.



Japie: While I am all for a healthy lifestyle and trying alternative medicines etc ( I take all sorts of weird and wonderful concoctions these days to try to maintain my health), if the lesions come back etc please go straight back to the docs and get them diagnosed. Melanonas can be highly aggressive and spread to other organs very quickly.

When I was in hospital having chemo, I saw other patients with numerous types of cancers and a lot had ignored the initial signs. It wasnt good. A few died during my stay and for most the prognosis wasnt good.

Cancer doesnt just affect the patient. The families and freinds also go through it all and it can be a long and drawn out process that is just as painfull for them. By all means use alternative therapies BUT use them in conjunction with conventional treatments to obtain the best possible outcomes for yourself and your family.

As you may have gathered, I am pretty passionate when it comes to supporting doctors and researchers in their fight against cancer.
stamp
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19 Nov 2011 7:45am
whatever works for you but beware of pseudoscience
pierrec45
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19 Nov 2011 9:31am
Hope you're doing good and will keep getting better.

Sorry but must bring my own experience - a neighbour in Sydney started developing a lesion on this lip. Wife was into herbs and meditation and all that, and above all, didn't want the surgeon to disfigure him (it would have been minimal surgery).

She put a lot of pressure on him to try natural treatment - the controlling type that she was. Very few months later he was dead. Two young children too.

In all this, we hope to have you around for a very long time jap.
weiry
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19 Nov 2011 9:50am
Very interesting Jap i used a cream ( prescription only)called aldara for some BCC "basal cell carcinoma" and SCC "squamous cell carcinoma" (skin cancers)and had fantastic results, i had one doctor say there was NO WAY aldara would work that the SCC on my eye brow HAD to be removed surgically, went to my loacl GP and had never looked back. No plastic surgeon will ever give you the cream, Funny that..
japie
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19 Nov 2011 3:06pm
I was a little wary about posting initially as i know how cancer affects people mentally. Virtually everyone has been touched by it. My ex had to have a masectomy and my auntie who parasailed at seventy and intended to live until she was 100 suddenly succumbed to lover cancer about shich she was very bitter.

I have always been very wary of doctors. this was excacerbated in 1996 when i eventually took a course of antibiotics for a bad case of bronchitis. The bronchitis cleared up about six months before my stomach flora did. for six months if I looked at bread I would be ****ting throught he eye of a needle and have not touched antibiotics since.

The history of cancer research is really interesting. In about 1931 the nobel prise for medicine was given to someone who researched the relationship with acidity but it was never progressed. I do not take it lightly because it can be so lethal and fast which is why I keep an eye on the things on my skin. The ****ers grow, sometimes really quickly, from a small patch of what appears to be dry skin. All of that is gone now which is really really great. I am going to continue with the diet, would be gormless not to given it's results so far.

The testimonial video by Richard Ago here: www.phmiracleliving.com/t-Videos-Testimonials.aspx
is pretty interesting. What started out as a mole left him with on lymph gland and a life expectancy of twelve weeks.
FlySurfer
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19 Nov 2011 4:14pm
No, no, no!
If Pfizer, P&G, GSK, Roche, J&J it aint medicine it's a quack potion!
Also no cures allowed only treatments.

Glad it worked for you ... I'm going to read pH Miracle (just downloaded it) when I get a chance.

Quick question, do you think it was the Sun that caused the condition or did the condition manifest where the Sun caused damage?
japie
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20 Nov 2011 9:37am
FlySurfer said...

No, no, no!
If Pfizer, P&G, GSK, Roche, J&J it aint medicine it's a quack potion!
Also no cures allowed only treatments.

Glad it worked for you ... I'm going to read pH Miracle (just downloaded it) when I get a chance.

Quick question, do you think it was the Sun that caused the condition or did the condition manifest where the Sun caused damage?


Interesting you ask that because it is soething I am tryingto figure out myself. When I was a kid I had a permanent scab on my nose from sunburn. Brought up in Tanzania on the beach sunburn was a feature of poms living in Africa and yet I have had nothing happening on my nose.

Over the years my head copped a real hammering through rugby. I rarely finished a game without at least one scab on the noggin so who knows?

What I do know is that the ****ers grow so you have to assume it is some form of parasitism and that whatever they were feeding off is no longer available and they have carked it. Or the environment is just impossible for them to grow.

My brother worked as a pharmaceutical rep for a while.It is not good. John Le Carre states in the authors notes in The Constant Gardener that educated reviewers deemed that his novel was tame in comparison to real life.

All I can say is that I am so relieved that the only health problem I had is no more. I can run my fingers over my scalp without my nails catching. It is not a pretty noggin but it is ireplaceable.
jimbo76
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20 Nov 2011 8:58am
okay now I'm a bit concerned - have had a lump that comes & goes for the last year or two on my head that when knocked/scratched/rubbed lightly bleeds, the doc flew to site yesterday to do mole inspctions & I mentioned this to her & as murphys' law would have it, she couldn't find - just a different lump that she prodded but it wouldn't bleed. My diet/lifestyle isn't exactly ideal; i rarely eat fruit n veg (but am getting better) and upto recently never exercised (apart from the occasional surf). The wife has started taking a f*ckload of, what I term, hippy***t in the last year or so (since her mum was diagnosed) and has been pushing it on me which I often forget to take ('specially onsite). When you alkalise your water does it give it a weak lemon flavour? there are some drops she puts in water that I don't mind a drink of every now & then thats got a slight lemon taste. Her energy levels don't appear to have changed too greatly though..........
stamp
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20 Nov 2011 11:26am
how can food affect the acidity of your body? anything alkaline would surely be neutralised by stomach acid. i don't think the pH of food would change anything except maybe neutralisng stomach acid so that food is harder to digest. good for relieving heartburn maybe, but what else?
FlySurfer
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20 Nov 2011 1:08pm
japie said...
Interesting you ask that because it is soething I am tryingto figure out myself. When I was a kid I had a permanent scab on my nose from sunburn. Brought up in Tanzania on the beach sunburn was a feature of poms living in Africa and yet I have had nothing happening on my nose.

Over the years my head copped a real hammering through rugby. I rarely finished a game without at least one scab on the noggin so who knows?

What I do know is that the ****ers grow so you have to assume it is some form of parasitism and that whatever they were feeding off is no longer available and they have carked it. Or the environment is just impossible for them to grow.

My brother worked as a pharmaceutical rep for a while.It is not good. John Le Carre states in the authors notes in The Constant Gardener that educated reviewers deemed that his novel was tame in comparison to real life.

All I can say is that I am so relieved that the only health problem I had is no more. I can run my fingers over my scalp without my nails catching. It is not a pretty noggin but it is ireplaceable.


From my limited research, cancers caused by infection (bacterial and more commonly viral), will spread all around the body when surgically removed... that's the primary reason for post op chemo.
So if you just make the environment bad for the bacteria/virus your chances are much better.

I've got 2 conditions caused by "stress"
1.- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cricopharyngeal_spasm
2.- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_serous_retinopathy

The eye thing is a real bummer.
Nothing I've done so far has made any difference... so I'm going to give the Dr Young's theory a go.

Drs for everything I've needed them have been completely useless.

Another thing that really pisses me off, is I need to go to a stupid $180 for 15 minutes Dr just to get a prescription AND then it comes in a non descriptive box with no manual... without wikipedia these "Drs" would have seriously injured me.

PS: your tax money goes to giving me back $70 of the $180 I waste.
FlySurfer
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20 Nov 2011 1:13pm
stamp said...

how can food affect the acidity of your body? anything alkaline would surely be neutralised by stomach acid. i don't think the pH of food would change anything except maybe neutralisng stomach acid so that food is harder to digest. good for relieving heartburn maybe, but what else?


It doesn't... your body keeps the pH (concentration of hydrogen ions) level constant, and in order to maintain that constant pH it does stuff that can impact your health.
So what you're trying to do is lessen the burden of maintaining that constant pH.

It's ~ like taking vitamin C.

And supposedly it 20x harder to balance acid vs alkaline balancing.
stamp
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20 Nov 2011 3:09pm
FlySurfer said...



in order to maintain that constant pH it does stuff that can impact your health.



you lost me there, can you dumb it down?
FlySurfer
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20 Nov 2011 6:00pm
stamp said...

FlySurfer said...



in order to maintain that constant pH it does stuff that can impact your health.



you lost me there, can you dumb it down?


Dr Young claims the pH of the small intestine must be alkaline in order to create red blood cells, if this process doesn't occur the body will cannibalize other parts to produce those cells.

That's just one example, read the book http://www.amazon.com/pH-Miracle-Balance-Reclaim-Health/dp/0446556181/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1321768577&sr=8-1

I only just started reading this morning, so I'm no expert and I haven't got any results to prove his theory.
FlySurfer
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23 Nov 2011 3:24pm
japie said...
I alkalise my water with sodium chlorite four drops to a liter.


Any reason you use sodium chlorite vs say baking soda (sodium or potassium bicarbonate)?
When I ask for sodium chlorite, the health food folk keep thinking I'm saying sodium chloride... so I have to write it down for them and they give me a blank look.

Did you measure your urine or blood pH before/after the diet change?
evlPanda
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23 Nov 2011 4:56pm
Hippocratic Oath.
japie
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23 Nov 2011 9:21pm
FlySurfer said...

japie said...
I alkalise my water with sodium chlorite four drops to a liter.


Any reason you use sodium chlorite vs say baking soda (sodium or potassium bicarbonate)?
When I ask for sodium chlorite, the health food folk keep thinking I'm saying sodium chloride... so I have to write it down for them and they give me a blank look.

Did you measure your urine or blood pH before/after the diet change?



I just happened to have a couple of bottles of sodium chlorite that I bought a while back. It is marketed by lots of people as MMS, (magical miracle solution) and comes with citric acid. It has been sold for at least 80 years as water purification drops and is used in some European countries instead of chlorine to treat municipal water supplies as it leaves no harmful residues unlike chlorine. Got it from an Australian supplier on the internet but it can be bought from chemical companies for a pittance.

I did not measure pH because I have read that it can be pretty erratic and I did not want to go to the expense of buying a pH meter.

Cycled back from work today into a 29 knot southerly and arrived home soaked but otherwise unaffected. Averaged 26kph, not bad for an old fart who has just got back into it.

When clipping my finger nails decided to see if the toes needed doing, ( they usually grow at about a third of the speed of my finger nails), could not believe how they had grown. Must be circulation improving. Tongue is pink as a babies and whilst I am farting an awful lot they are not as vile as they used to be!




japie
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23 Nov 2011 9:34pm
stamp said...

how can food affect the acidity of your body? anything alkaline would surely be neutralised by stomach acid. i don't think the pH of food would change anything except maybe neutralisng stomach acid so that food is harder to digest. good for relieving heartburn maybe, but what else?


When I was checking the whole thing out I found quite a few posts in regard to stomach acids neutralising etc..

A lot of people seem to think that the stomach has this resevoir of acid which is automatically released when food appears. That would obviously not make sense because many of the substances introduced to the stomach would require vastly different levels of acid for digestion.

For instance a glass of water, one would assume, would require nothing. A well chewed steak far less than one swallowed in chunks if you get my drift.

If digestive juices were simply turned on at the appearance of material you would run the risk of developing ulcers through acid overdose.
FlySurfer
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23 Nov 2011 10:38pm
What about your blood type, I'm O Positive and the blood type diet says I should eat like a caveman, which is opposite to the pH diet.

I have some pH strips that came "Alkala N". My pH after drinking whisky is acidic ~5pH, after drinking water with Alkala N it's ~9. Any other time it's in-between.

Thanks for sharing your experience, it's encourage me to read something other than Hi Fi magazine (Christmas present magz )
petermac33
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24 Nov 2011 6:15am
New magazine out,picked up my first copy tonight,awesome read logman.


www.naturalmedicine.net.nz/
japie
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24 Nov 2011 8:43pm
FlySurfer said...

What about your blood type, I'm O Positive and the blood type diet says I should eat like a caveman, which is opposite to the pH diet.

I have some pH strips that came "Alkala N". My pH after drinking whisky is acidic ~5pH, after drinking water with Alkala N it's ~9. Any other time it's in-between.

Thanks for sharing your experience, it's encourage me to read something other than Hi Fi magazine (Christmas present magz )


I have no idea what my blood type is but I am eating like a horse. Silly bint across the road, ( pizza and coke addict, maccas for the kids and she wonders why her four year old has constipation) told me I was not eating properly. Told her I was crapping three times a day and feel magnificent.

Lost my board in the southerly today, could not body drag through the breakers so had to swim for the ****er. Was at least 500 meters out and I did not get knocked up. Not too impressed about all the dongers who post about sharks all the time though, half an hour of pure paranoia
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