Suspended Victorian Driving Licence

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adolf
adolf
1862 posts
1862 posts
18 Dec 2011 12:44pm
I got a speeding camera fine a couple of weeks ago and didn't look at it until this afternoon. The penalty is $336.00, my licence is suspended for one month from 21 December and I've lost 4 demerit points. The offense was for driving at 86k/h in a 60k/h zone

I know I have to send my licence into Vic Roads, but what I'm wondering is how do I get it back? I haven't been able to find any other information on this.

Does anyone know - can I just automatically drive again on 21 Jan or does something else have to happen?

Davage
Davage
VIC
182 posts
VIC, 182 posts
18 Dec 2011 4:41pm
Seeing as its a camera find someone that you can nominate as the driver so you can at least keep your points and licence.

When wife lost hers she didnt have to hand licence in. At the end of the month she just started driving again. That was about 4 years ago though.
adolf
adolf
1862 posts
1862 posts
18 Dec 2011 1:49pm
Can someone give me the name and address of someone from overseas who was visiting Melbourne on 13 November - preferably, someone who doesn't speak any English?
Pugwash
Pugwash
WA
7733 posts
WA, 7733 posts
18 Dec 2011 3:00pm
^^^How about taking responsibility for your own actions

You could improve the road safety in Vic by cutting up your own licence
adolf
adolf
1862 posts
1862 posts
18 Dec 2011 3:26pm
Some years ago my Dad got caught for speeding and nominated his brother as the driver who lives overseas. After about a year, Vic Roads eventually caught up with Dad and he had to pay the extra penalties.

Vic Roads are like pit bulls, they don't let go. So nominating another driver is not something I'd actually do.
Gorgo
Gorgo
VIC
5124 posts
VIC, 5124 posts
18 Dec 2011 7:14pm
adolf said...

Can someone give me the name and address of someone from overseas who was visiting Melbourne on 13 November - preferably, someone who doesn't speak any English?


I have heard that nominating dead people from another country works quite well. Marcus Einfeld was a justice of the Federal and Supreme Courts and he did it so it must be alright.
CJW
CJW
NSW
1731 posts
CJW CJW
NSW, 1731 posts
18 Dec 2011 7:15pm
Gorgo said...

adolf said...

Can someone give me the name and address of someone from overseas who was visiting Melbourne on 13 November - preferably, someone who doesn't speak any English?


I have heard that nominating dead people from another country works quite well. Marcus Einfeld was a justice of the Federal and Supreme Courts and he did it so it must be alright.


Yeah and that worked out well for him in the end didn't it
FlySurfer
FlySurfer
NSW
4460 posts
NSW, 4460 posts
18 Dec 2011 10:36pm


I usually get clocked doing donkey speed in a turtle zone.
It's only 1 month! Over here it's usually 3-6.

HTFU and become more situation aware... or drive/ride like you've got brain damage.

I've been there, farking bush cams and other hidden cams still get me though.
How many of those air swimmers you got left, would they be enough to take your weight?
adolf
adolf
1862 posts
1862 posts
18 Dec 2011 8:27pm
I don't care that I got caught, or about the penalty. Just one of those annoying blips in life.

I'm just curious about the procedure. Do I have to re-do my licence, pay more money to get it back, or just drive on 21 January again like nothing happened.
log man
log man
VIC
8289 posts
VIC, 8289 posts
19 Dec 2011 12:16am
In my experience don't you just ignore everything and just keep driving
cantswm4sht
cantswm4sht
VIC
411 posts
VIC, 411 posts
19 Dec 2011 12:16am
When the times up, you just go into vic roads and reclaim ur licence, (no test or cost)
but yes, you can drive immediately after the ban,
Your pretty lucky, you could have lost it for a hell of allot longer for 25+ over the limit

I have spare points, and could take them 4 u for a hundred a point,
standard flat rates,
adolf said...

I don't care that I got caught, or about the penalty. Just one of those annoying blips in life.

I'm just curious about the procedure. Do I have to re-do my licence, pay more money to get it back, or just drive on 21 January again like nothing happened.


latedropeddy
latedropeddy
VIC
417 posts
VIC, 417 posts
19 Dec 2011 1:16am
Years ago my mate got done driving while suspended, he smashed into another car (while drunk the dumbass).

Ended up losing his licence for 18 months, insurance wouldn't pay out plus was very very lucky he didn't end up in jail. A couple of guys that day in court did go to jail, my mate had spent $2k on a good solicitor. All up it cost him around $50k in hospital fees, car repairs, legal fee's, fines & lost wage.

Please don't drive while suspended. I sound old.
FlySurfer
FlySurfer
NSW
4460 posts
NSW, 4460 posts
29 Dec 2011 12:05pm
Does Vic have double demerit point times?

In No Sun or Wind, when ever our rulers decide, they make double demerit point days... so if you're caught doing some ridiculously low speed but it's still over the retarded speed limit, you get double points.

Eg:
3 lane freeway: Speed limit 50kmh
Your speed: 61kmh DOGS RUN FASTER!

Half your license GONE!
adolf
adolf
1862 posts
1862 posts
29 Dec 2011 10:54am
FlySurfer said...

Does Vic have double demerit point times?

In No Sun or Wind, when ever our rulers decide, they make double demerit point days... so if you're caught doing some ridiculously low speed but it's still over the retarded speed limit, you get double points.

Eg:
3 lane freeway: Speed limit 50kmh
Your speed: 61kmh DOGS RUN FASTER!

Half your license GONE!


Yeah, I think we do. I don't know when they are, but are probably during Easter and xmas.

With my daughter doing her license, I couldn't believe she had to do 120 hours training just to go for it - that has got to be more than a pilot.

I'm noticing all the retarded signs all over our suburb - it's close to impossible to do the right thing. If you spent your time looking at the different signs telling you what you can and can't do on the same stretch of road, while monitoring your speedometer, you would struggle to keep your eyes on what's in front of you.
Little Jon
Little Jon
NSW
2115 posts
NSW, 2115 posts
29 Dec 2011 3:13pm
I've had several near misses cos I'm focused on the speedo and not the road. I think driving in the zone is much more dangeraous than speeding. What zone? the zombie zone, not the walking dead but the driving dead, eyes wide open looking straight ahead but brain totally disconnected.

In NSW teh ownerhsip, management and placement of speed cameras has been privatised. They use GPS data to see where the speeding is occurring and put cameras there. Its all about raising money. They are looking at the wrong data, if it was safety they would be looking at accident data.
FlySurfer
FlySurfer
NSW
4460 posts
NSW, 4460 posts
30 Dec 2011 11:10am
Fark!!!

This morning going to work I come out of a corner on my bike, and open her up a little down a nice ~2km 4 lane (2 each direction) straight with no intersections, when a car on the other side flashes me... I'm thinking "what", then I see a green commodore parked up on the side walk in front of a house under construction, I brake to the 60kmh limit... FARKING cop in there with his gear!

Then when I'm ~1km down the cop turns his sirens on and gives chase... so I pull over and he drives by at speed... farker almost gave me a heart attack... still had his sirens on at the intersection confusing everyone.


Thank you, thank you stranger!!!

He saved what ever's left of my license after my Christmas day incident (speed cam) not sure what the speed limit was, but I was doing ~65 and it went off.
Little Jon
Little Jon
NSW
2115 posts
NSW, 2115 posts
30 Dec 2011 2:20pm
Poor copper was trying to get to Maccas before they stop breakfast at 11am
Simondo
Simondo
VIC
8025 posts
VIC, 8025 posts
30 Dec 2011 3:03pm
I was in possession of a Vicco Drivers, and NSW Riders permits simultaneously. At the time I was informed by a good source that it would have been hard to track both down / cancel both in those days. But I never did the wrong thing to lose either anyway.
Haircut
Haircut
QLD
6491 posts
QLD, 6491 posts
30 Dec 2011 11:35pm
at least u got a fine for speeding, when you were speeding

i got a fine for doing 80 when I was really doing close to 50 by a new fixed camera which i knew was there now i think every camera is faulty and i slow to 20kph

the dpt of transport only have themselves to blame for ultra slow traffic
dusta
dusta
WA
2940 posts
WA, 2940 posts
2 Jan 2012 10:24pm
simple buy a radar detector ..


oh wait you're in victoria aren't you :)


FlySurfer
FlySurfer
NSW
4460 posts
NSW, 4460 posts
12 Jan 2012 10:58am
This morning I got hit by a golf ball while riding to work; I got hit on the 1st bounce lucky...

And I also got my speeding fine... Exceeding speed limit by 10kmh and UNDER... I was doing 67, in a 60 zone... 2 points and $93.

www.google.com.au:443/maps?ll=-33.886738,151.219396&spn=0.001296,0.001392&t=h&vpsrc=6&z=19

How farking pathetic is that?

There's only 2 things I hate about Australia... Road and Traffic laws, and the ATO; wait a 3rd, Juliar.

Roads are too narrow, speed limits are too variable, people who have accidents (proven bad drivers) don't get disqualified.

The farking ATO is always on my case for something like 50cents here and there, and they're always wrong... but I have to spend months of work, letters, etc to prove it.

superlizard
superlizard
VIC
702 posts
VIC, 702 posts
12 Jan 2012 12:08pm
- was driving Melb - Geelong freeway, after new years
- was on cruise control
- had GPS in-front of me to monitor my speed as it's a fact that car's display higher speed than actual (6-7kms in my case).
- was approaching fixed camera, - checking speed on GPS = 100.
- the ****** camera goes off (saw the flash).
- Even had friend in separate car following me who witnessed all this.

- then on the way back, i drive under the speed check device installed under an overpass - again i use my GPS, and verify that the Vicroads installed speed check device matches GPS 100%. Prooving that the car shows 6-7 km more than actual speed. Yet they nab drivers who don't even speed...
- It was a over 40 degrees hot day (another factor that could have skewed the camera)... - other cameras didn't go off even though driving at the same speed...

(Haven't received fine yet, but if i do, i'm so going to court... how long is Australian Governmen going to allow Vicroads to *** innocent citezens in their arse... ****!!!!!! And that's after huge sums of tax you pay to them).... freedom and fair go my arse!!!!!

ockanui
ockanui
VIC
1321 posts
VIC, 1321 posts
12 Jan 2012 12:16pm
same thing happened to me, same place wrote a letter and got of, its akin to entrapment as the "speedo check" does not seem to give an accurate recording thus lulling you into an extra couple of K's, then the next camera, bingo, the Gov't must make a *hitload out of this and peoples apathy about not doing something about their situation,
cantswm4sht
cantswm4sht
VIC
411 posts
VIC, 411 posts
12 Jan 2012 3:46pm
the problem is, only a small percentage of innocent victims can be bothered with all the red tape,
In the long run, with time of work to go to court, lawyers advise, etc, Its easier and cheaper just to pay the fine,
All the major players like telco's, banks, etc count on this, as its worth their while for the 90% odd that just pay up.
Like shooting fish in a barrel,
ockanui said...

same thing happened to me, same place wrote a letter and got of, its akin to entrapment as the "speedo check" does not seem to give an accurate recording thus lulling you into an extra couple of K's, then the next camera, bingo, the Gov't must make a *hitload out of this and peoples apathy about not doing something about their situation,


harry potter
harry potter
VIC
2777 posts
VIC, 2777 posts
12 Jan 2012 4:20pm
dusta said...

simple buy a radar detector ..


oh wait you're in victoria aren't you :)





most radar places in WA deliver to Vic.....

I got one about 2 years ago ...no more speeding fines
TrevNewman
TrevNewman
VIC
237 posts
VIC, 237 posts
12 Jan 2012 9:03pm
ockanui said...

same thing happened to me, same place wrote a letter and got of, its akin to entrapment as the "speedo check" does not seem to give an accurate recording thus lulling you into an extra couple of K's, then the next camera, bingo, the Gov't must make a *hitload out of this and peoples apathy about not doing something about their situation,


The speedo check device was checked by the cops a while back and they declared it to be precise and accurate, was in the newspaper.
Craig66
Craig66
NSW
2466 posts
NSW, 2466 posts
12 Jan 2012 10:33pm
adolf said...


With my daughter doing her license, I couldn't believe she had to do 120 hours training just to go for it - that has got to be more than a pilot.




NSW
My kids have had 120 hours on their L plates, my daughter racked up 150 hours. Bugger the effort it took because nothing beats the experience before they moved onto there P plates.
landyacht
landyacht
WA
5921 posts
WA, 5921 posts
12 Jan 2012 8:47pm
i just got my 3rd daughter throught her practical test with only 25 hrs of lessons over 5 weeks.
the examiner complimented her on her driving and said she was an example of why examiners should be able to decide how many logbook hrs a L plater should do.
he felt she should be able to drive solo
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