TV Chef's not so healthy meals... ???

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Simondo
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18 Dec 2012 8:35pm
Read this...
www.goodfood.com.au/eat-out/news/top-tv-chefs-grilled-for-unhealthy-recipe-ideas-20121218-2bkly?rand=1355808224588

Now consider commenting...
Really, a pre-made "TV Dinner" being more healthy than a freshly cooked meal...
I agree, some meals by TV chefs will be a little unhealthy, but overall, a freshly prepared and cooked meal is what it's all about... surely !!???

I would think we need to teach our kids to cook, as opposed to select a Ready Made (Frozen) TV Dinner, and learn how to cook it in the microwave....



PS - just a stupid article I think... Nobody was even prepared to put their name against it... just some initials at the bottom... maybe... But the website obviously is responsible for the article...
CJW
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18 Dec 2012 8:48pm
Darren Gray's name is at the top, whoever that is? No link to the published paper in the article either. Which ever way slice it up it has to be somewhat of a beat up. Anything you cook fresh yourself is, within reason, going to be healthier than something you slap in the microwave and heat up. I've got J.O's 30 minute meals and nothing in their jumps out at me as ridiculously unhealthy, but again, there are also deserts in there so as with everything you have to eat appropriately.

Edit: Found a better article which has a link to the paper and some stats listed.

www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/dec/17/celebrity-chefs-recipes-less-healthy-ready-meals-data

As suspected it's a bit of a beat up, the results are pretty damn close. If you read the 'strengths and weaknesses' section of the paper they make some fairly glaring observations RE the validity of the study such as: "We did not examine the micronutrient content of the ready meals or recipes or the presence of artificial preservatives, flavours, colourings, or stabilisers. These may be additional important aspects to consider when judging the overall healthiness of a food.", "In the United Kingdom, the published nutritional data used for analysis of ready meals is permitted by law to vary by 20% from the true macronutrient values.", These two alone make the entire study fairly useless, imo.
GalahOnTheBay
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18 Dec 2012 9:25pm
CJW said...
These two alone make the entire study fairly useless, imo.


Yep - must have been a slow news day

so "some" meals are not as healthy as another set of "Randomly selected" meals...

kk
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18 Dec 2012 6:28pm
I've done a bit bit of my own research on the subject, you can too.

When you next go shopping, look in someones trolley and then look at them, and if possible their kids.

To date my results are that people with ready made processed often frozen, sometimes dried meals..... Are not lookin real good!!

The ones with vegeis, meat, BUTTER (OMG so bad), oil, spices and other stuff you would cook a meal with are looking better, and spending less money.

Don't take this as gosple though as it's not peer reviewed or anything like that.
tmurray
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18 Dec 2012 6:38pm
I think there are 2 huge differences
1. If you're preparing fresh food you're more likely to have some healthy side dishes rather than just following it up with a carton of icecream eaten on the couch.
2. You can adjust recipes - add a few more vegies, cut out some of the cream or butter etc

Plus if using these cookbooks gets you into the habit of cooking your own food that can only be a good thing.
Simondo
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18 Dec 2012 10:09pm
Simondo said...


Nobody was even prepared to put their name against it... just some initials at the bottom... maybe... But the website obviously is responsible for the article...


Name is now added at the top, and initials at the bottom of article have been removed... It is a new article that has had a minor edit...

Gala - yep, nothing to see here!
manicskier
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18 Dec 2012 10:18pm
kk said...

The ones with vegeis, meat, BUTTER (OMG so bad), oil, spices and other stuff you would cook a meal with are looking better, and spending less money.

Don't take this as gosple though as it's not peer reviewed or anything like that.



peer reviewed... well, maybe it has but corporate emerica think differently. Ever heard of the french paradox
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_paradox
"The French diet is based on natural saturated fats such as butter, cheese and cream that the human body finds easy to metabolize"

tmurray said...
cut out some of the cream or butter etc



you sure, why? oh yeah, thats right, eat what your told like a good little boy


theDoctor
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19 Dec 2012 2:09am







Nothing cooked in a microwave is good for you
Sailhack
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19 Dec 2012 8:35am
^^^'Nothing' cooked in anything is still 'nothing'.

'Nothing' is not a great diet - 'Something' is...everybody just has a different opinion of what the right 'something' is.

(Ok I stretched that out as far as I could.)
doggie
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19 Dec 2012 1:41pm
theDoctor said...







Anything cooked in a microwave is good for you


But they are good for heating up the leftovers
Simondo
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19 Dec 2012 4:49pm
Doggie, I bet you're a big fan of pizza reheated in the microwave!? Me too!

I actually cook Pizza at home quite a bit. I usually have a bag of grated "Pizza Cheese", plus pitta bread bases in the freezer... from there I raid the fridge vegie department, olives from the jar... etc... Mmmm... simple pizza!
doggie
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19 Dec 2012 1:52pm
Simondo said...
Doggie, I bet you're a big fan of pizza reheated in the microwave!? Me too!

I actually cook Pizza at home quite a bit. I usually have a bag of grated "Pizza Cheese", plus pitta bread bases in the freezer... from there I raid the fridge vegie department, olives from the jar... etc... Mmmm... simple pizza!


I love curry reheated the next day, and spag bol

Pizza is great as long as its the next day, any longer and it seems to gluggy and never has the same taste.
NotWal
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19 Dec 2012 4:05pm
theDoctor said...
Nothing cooked in a microwave is good for you


I have to ask. Why is that?
Prawnhead
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20 Dec 2012 5:09pm
theDoctor said...







Nothing cooked in a microwave is good for you


....popcorn!
oceanfire
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20 Dec 2012 2:38pm
NotWal said...
theDoctor said...
Nothing cooked in a microwave is good for you


I have to ask. Why is that?



Que the moving of the thread to the Heavy Weather section
tmurray
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20 Dec 2012 3:01pm
NotWal said...
theDoctor said...
Nothing cooked in a microwave is good for you


I have to ask. Why is that?


I think the standard answer is
" something something government conspiracy something something alien lizard people &(&(&*)*&^%( JULIAR)
insert heavily opionated google search document article pretending to be science
waffle on about chemtrails
vaccines are bad mmmkay
mutter mutter sheeple
I AM a special little flower who deserves to have my voice heard!!! My opinion should bear just as much weight as actual scientists - they do research! So do I - on google!! I'm great at cutting and pasting articles that support my pre-conceived ideas THAT MEANS I MATTER
mutter mutter tinfoil hat....
theDoctor
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20 Dec 2012 6:07pm







What's the matter tmurray, you sell microwaves...?

Everything is copy pasted, those results you got in school, you got as a reward for your ability to copy paste...

science and engineering are amongst the worst for copy paste...

But hey, whatever



kiterboy
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20 Dec 2012 3:26pm
theDoctor said...







What's the matter tmurray, you sell microwaves...?

Everything is copy pasted, those results you got in school, you got as a reward for your ability to copy paste...

science and engineering are amongst the worst for copy paste...

But hey, whatever







LOLZ

The difference being, science and engineering is copy paste of proven and testable methods and theories.
Not copy paste of non peer reviewed & untested internet gossip/dribble.
theDoctor
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20 Dec 2012 10:43pm


is peer reviewed another way of saying bought and paid for..?

there are plenty of peer reviews,

monied interests decide what you see to be legit
kiterboy
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theDoctor said...


is peer reviewed another way of saying bought and paid for..?

there are plenty of peer reviews,

monied interests decide what you see to be legit


You got it, all the copy-pasted & peer reviewed engineering knowledge that builds our machinery and structures, it doesn't really work, it's all paid for people who want to pull the wool over our eyes.

Nice try at deflection, but you made a claim that "Anything cooked in a microwave is not good for you".

Why don't you come up with some credible evidence to back up your claim?
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