The Outliers

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Simondo
Simondo
VIC
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VIC, 8025 posts
24 Aug 2012 10:18pm
Corby gets 20 years for a kilo or two of weed.
Breivik gets 21 years for slaying roughly 77 people.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outlier
BulldogPup
BulldogPup
6657 posts
6657 posts
24 Aug 2012 11:01pm
Simondo said...

Corby gets 20 years for a kilo or two of weed.
Breivik gets 21 years for slaying roughly 77 people.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outlier


I cannot comprehend how a "human" who snuffs out the life of 77 living souls can be sentenced so relativetly lightly .... surely it couldn't be released back into society ... surely???????
GypsyDrifter
GypsyDrifter
WA
2371 posts
WA, 2371 posts
25 Aug 2012 12:00am
I was STUNNED when I heard this...
but surely it would have to do with their court system? and the way their law works...
my mouth is still a gasp thinking about him only getting 21 years...
There HAS !!! to be some underlying factor
youngbull
youngbull
QLD
826 posts
QLD, 826 posts
25 Aug 2012 6:32am
First up yep that's pretty bad. One funky law system over their.

A different way you could look at it though is.

Say that 1kg of pot was broken up into a sticks 1.5grams each. Now 666 people would have purchased the pot.
Now just say 25% goes to a minor - this then leads them on a path to more illicit drugs - say 10% of the 25% die due to this "16 people dead".

Say 25%more are already addicts and they go out driving and have an accident killing 2 people in each car "332more people dead".

Say the remaining 50% of people sell to other people (tourist) they go to jail and die " Approx 100 more people.
All up the green killed 448people.
Just a different way of looking at it, chance of that occurring - who knows.

Time for another smoke I thinks
Mobydisc
Mobydisc
NSW
9029 posts
NSW, 9029 posts
25 Aug 2012 6:55am
The best form of punishment for him would be to make him a cleaner and labourer at a mosque or the Labor party HQ or something like that. Get him to clean up their crap under close supervision and in irons for the rest of his life.

Work from 5am to 6pm six days a week.


Give him a smack if he gets out of line.

At the end of the day he'd be too tired to think about much else besides sleeping.

He is happy with the sentence handed down. He would have appealed if he'd been judged to be insane.

If you were found guilty of a similar crime here, what would the sentence be? Not that different to the one given to him, twenty odd years locked up. Not sure why everyone is so surprised. They aren't going to draw and quarter him.

Most people know if you are caught importing illegal drugs in Asian countries you are in a world of sh!t.
Beersy
Beersy
TAS
753 posts
TAS, 753 posts
25 Aug 2012 9:54am
^there is no way you would revive a similar sentence here. You'd be given life without parole as most mass murders have been, or at least a non parole period of over twenty years.

He was given 21 years with a non parole period of 10. That is at most, less than a third of a year for each person he intentionally killed... Ridiculous.
myusernam
myusernam
QLD
6158 posts
QLD, 6158 posts
25 Aug 2012 10:13am
they also said good behaviour 10 years BUT

apparrantly the 21 years is the maximum sentence but if the person is deemed a danger to society they can continue to be held indefinitely I'm guessing there's a fair chance they'll hold him indefinitely.
pweedas
pweedas
WA
4642 posts
WA, 4642 posts
25 Aug 2012 5:48pm
Apparently he is getting his own private 3 room secure facility because they said he wouldn't be safe in the normal prison.
This is what happens when the bleeding hearts take over the system.
All the concern goes out to the poor deranged person who commits the crime and millions are spent to try and determine where society went wrong that it should produce someone like that.

They need to accept that in any population of any species, some just naturally turn out to be defective.
We're not so short of people on this planet that we should have to spend millions to preserve the rubbish.
Just throw it out.

BulldogPup
BulldogPup
6657 posts
6657 posts
25 Aug 2012 7:46pm
So - if mass murder of 77 peeps commands a measly 21 years in the klink being fed and with the usual prospect of a lucrative media deal for the story - a massive bank heist would be around 2 months tops ..... hmmmmmm how far away is Norway
getfunky
getfunky
WA
4485 posts
WA, 4485 posts
26 Aug 2012 10:13am
He will never be released.

There is a get out clause that allows his imprisnoment to be 'reviewed'at parole time.

Changing laws due to one random act is very dangerous, especially in a media/hysteria fueled environment.

The Oz laws do seem to have changed for the better tho.



Apparently he is getting his own private 3 room secure facility because they said he wouldn't be safe in the normal prison.
This is what happens when the bleeding hearts take over the system.
All the concern goes out to the poor deranged person who commits the crime and millions are spent to try and determine where society went wrong that it should produce someone like that.

They need to accept that in any population of any species, some just naturally turn out to be defective.
We're not so short of people on this planet that we should have to spend millions to preserve the rubbish.
Just throw it out.



To some extent I agree Pweeda, but it is such a slippery slope.

How bout those old codgers, productive days over, mooching off the pension.. that we - under 45 - will never get!

Soilent Green anyone.
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