Terific article in the New York Times that I think will contribute significantly to the slow demise of president Trump. I'm assuming JD Vance is the leak... well someone close to Trump is trying to sink the boat.

www.nytimes.com/2026/06/10/magazine/trump-epstein-files-white-house-vance-doj.html

Meh said..
Neil Oliver highlighted this craziness months ago.

I don't know who Neil Oliver is - do you mean John Oliver?

Most of us suspect Trump is all over the Epstein files and is a child rapist - he was a good friend of Epstein at the peak of his offending. But now we have a credible news organisation involved adding to the many questions.

I think he's done.

It seems like the more his wrongdoings are pointed out, the more his supporters support him. The ones that remain at least.

myscreenname said..
The gradual strand-by-strand demise of Trump ....

Be-jeezuz MSN, it sure is 'gradual'.

I am not sure another mediocre opinion piece by a left-wing media organisation decrying Trump based on rumours and conspiracy theories is going to do much to alter the rate of this so called gradual demise.

It seems the same people have been forecasting/declaring/celebrating/wishing the demise of Trump since before 2017. Yet here we are, some 10 years later and he remains POTUS, in what appears to be a far more secure position within his political party than like of Albo, Keir Starmer, Macron, Bibi or many more of his western allies. And surprisingly, he appears to be orders of magnitude more secure than Harris/Newsome/Schumer or whoever is the actual leader of the Democrats opposition (if there is one which there doesn't appear to be).

Perhaps the gradual strand-by-strand demise of Trump is equalled in its snail like progress only by the gradual strand-by-strand demise of Bitcoin ?

If Carantoc can come to accept that one exists and isn't going anywhere soon, maybe MSN can also come to accept the same for the other ? We both just gotta live with it I'm afraid.

myscreenname said..
Those rocks in your shoes.... Are you getting used to them?

I've been meaning to thank you for that.

Due to the rocks I have thrown off my shoes.

I now walk barefoot. Tall and proud, free and unincumbered.

And since you made me throw away my rose coloured glasses too, I now not only see the world clearly for what it is, but also feel what it is without artificial barriers or fake comforts.

So I am able to come here and say it like it is. It might not be pleasant, it might not be fashionable, it might be cold and prickly. But it is as it is.

Anyhows, that's enough about me. How you going ? How is your research on Netanyahu ? Still beLIVe he is dead and has been replaced by CGI in order to fool the sheeple that Trump is a pedo ?


- Just kidding.

Of course it isn't enough about me. Nobody can get too much Carantoc.

Talk about fiction cammd

Care to provide evidence of you assertion of grooming gang in the UK, or is the article you read for you hate filled Neo Nazi Racist feeds

www.bbc.com/news/uk-65174096

What bothers you the most the fact its happened or the fact the establishment has been exposed.

No cammd
Its your claim about a cover up and your numbers

Yet you will defend your cult leader with comments with, ohh he's a naughty boy
You forget he has been civil convicted of sexually assaulting E .Jean Carrol
Any sexual predator needs to be held accountable for there actions
But as MSN stated no comments from you about Rolf Harris. Garry Glitter or Jim Saville. It only seems to hit your Radar if these despicable acts are committed by non whites

Oh and what's your opinion on the accusation of sexual assault on the Australian women by the IDF

acij.org.au/media-release-acij-welcomes-afp-investigation-into-israeli-brutality-against-australians-calls-for-structural-investigation-into-israels-illegal-naval-blockade-against-gaza/

IanR said..
No cammd
Its your claim about a cover up and your numbers

Yet you will defend your cult leader with comments with, ohh he's a naughty boy
You forget he has been civil convicted of sexually assaulting E .Jean Carrol
Any sexual predator needs to be held accountable for there actions
But as MSN stated no comments from you about Rolf Harris. Garry Glitter or Jim Saville. It only seems to hit your Radar if these despicable acts are committed by non whites

Oh and what's your opinion on the accusation of sexual assault on the Australian women by the IDF

acij.org.au/media-release-acij-welcomes-afp-investigation-into-israeli-brutality-against-australians-calls-for-structural-investigation-into-israels-illegal-naval-blockade-against-gaza/

No not my claim, the claims are made by the thousands of victims.

I guess you don't believe them because they are made by white girls against pakistani men. That makes you the racist not me.

cammd said..

IanR said..
No cammd
Its your claim about a cover up and your numbers

Yet you will defend your cult leader with comments with, ohh he's a naughty boy
You forget he has been civil convicted of sexually assaulting E .Jean Carrol
Any sexual predator needs to be held accountable for there actions
But as MSN stated no comments from you about Rolf Harris. Garry Glitter or Jim Saville. It only seems to hit your Radar if these despicable acts are committed by non whites

Oh and what's your opinion on the accusation of sexual assault on the Australian women by the IDF

acij.org.au/media-release-acij-welcomes-afp-investigation-into-israeli-brutality-against-australians-calls-for-structural-investigation-into-israels-illegal-naval-blockade-against-gaza/

No not my claim, the claims are made by the thousands of victims.

I guess you don't believe them because they are made by white girls against pakistani men. That makes you the racist not me.

No cammd

There has been conviction of Pakistani men for the offence as the article from the BBC states but in the article it states there has also been convictions of white males and females doing the same thing but you only focus on the People of colour.

Quoted from the BBC article "A previous piece of research from 2015 found that of 1,231 perpetrators of "group and gang-based child sexual exploitation", 42% were white, 14% were defined as Asian or Asian British and 17% black".

I like the way the numbers have dropped now dropped from hundreds of thousand to merely thousands. Provide credible evidence of this number you originally purported.

No mention of the IDF behaviour against the Australian women.

Here's something else that the IDF have been doing


www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/03/more-human-can-bear-israels-systematic-use-sexual-reproductive-and-other

www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx21le869n1o

MSN if trump is a pedophile then I agree 100% with you he needs to be held accountable.

I don't however believe every negative rumour thrown his way. The democrats have been working pretty hard to lock him up, discredit him, impeach him etc etc but so far we have seen that its all been BS from the Russiagate hoax to our own ABC doctoring footage to make him look like he is inciting an insurection.

Ok, so if the epstein files contain such damning evidence against him why did the dems withhold it when Biden was President. That doesn't make sense given the efforts they went to to stop him running again.

If it proves to be true, again, I agree with you, if waiting for actual evidence before condeming someone makes me a fool in your eyes, I can accept that. I hope your wrong and he isn't a rapist. I hope some of the stuff I have heard is in the epstein files is not true because its biblical level evil if it is and it is not split along political lines.

Hundreds of thousands of kids or maybe its "merely" thousands according to IanR, have been raped and tortured in Britain. Not one official has been charged with turning a blind eye or covering it up. That has happened for sure its not a rumour in a secret file somewhere. Tories and labor have covered it up.

The fact I mention it here instantly earns me getting called a nazi racist by IanR. Thats why it has been allowed to happen. Because no one wants to be called a nazi racist by left wing extremists who are so blinded by hate they believe evil only exists in the hearts of conservative people.

cammd said..
So MSN why didnt the dems expose trump as a pedo when they were in power. Answer me that

I believe that's been answered before. Here's a brief recap.

Democrats were simply following the law as it was still an open investigation. That changed in November 2025, when the U.S. House of Representatives passed the Epstein Files Transparency Act.

docs.house.gov/meetings/JU/JU00/20260211/118951/HHRG-119-JU00-20260211-SD013.pdf

Trump is now doing his best to protect the deep state and all it's swamp creatures.

Not exactly the best look for the president.

Meh said..
This doesn't seem like lightweight discussion of most things (excluding politics, religion, racism, hatred & conspiracies).

Hey Meh,

I think you might have misunderstood the rule.

Discussions here must be lightweight, for most things. Except politics, religion, racism, hatred & conspiracies. Discussion on those topics must not be lightweight.


Much like IanR seems to have misunderstood cammd's point that crimes committed by one group were institutionally covered up for fear of being labelled racist, whilst the exact same crime by other groups were not covered up. The ratio of the total crime committed by each group is not relevant. Other crime committed by others, investigated and prosecuted is not relevant. It is about cover-up for one specific reason.

myscreenname said..

cammd said..
So MSN why didnt the dems expose trump as a pedo when they were in power. Answer me that

I believe that's been answered before. Here's a brief recap.

Democrats were simply following the law as it was still an open investigation. That changed in November 2025, when the U.S. House of Representatives passed the Epstein Files Transparency Act.

docs.house.gov/meetings/JU/JU00/20260211/118951/HHRG-119-JU00-20260211-SD013.pdf

Trump is now doing his best to protect the deep state and all it's swamp creatures.

Not exactly the best look for the president.

Is this the same law abiding democrats who created the russiagate hoax.

Sorry MSN it isn't plausible that if the evidence is there the dems wouldn't leak it. Unless of course they are knee deep in it as well.

Maybe that scenario has some plausibility ie everyone from all sides of politics, msm and corporate elite are caught up in it. That I would be more likely to believe.


That is what I believe is happening in Britain with the grooming gangs

Oh Really Carantoc
It is plainly obvious that cammd was trying to divert from any criticism of the Maga cult leader. A civilly
convect sex offender


Now let's get this straight any act of sexual aggression is wrong.
And the numbers in the UK are staggering

www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/bulletins/sexualoffencesinenglandandwalesoverview/yearendingmarch2025#:~:text=T

But of coarse cammd is only focused on the one race group.
He is only concerned about the (to use his own words) white girls but evidence shows that the Pakistani gangs focus mostly on Pakistani girls because of there awareness that threats of this being exposed would bring shame on there families and would be far less likely to report
He won't acknowledge the fact that the IDF use sexual violence to forward there goals. No comment on the accusations of the Australia people that where held by the IDF or the facts I presented about the the sexual abuse the Palestinians suffer at the hands of the IDF

Your mate truly needs to go to a geriatrician to get a Montreal Cognitive test. I said he reads hate filled racist feeds and believes them without question
He exposes himself with his own words

Cammd, got another one for you and IanR

www.effedupmovies.com/three-girls-2017/

I think it's a made for TV dramatisation on this subject. Very disturbing and shows that there were multiple failings.