I think its bad. Sure the people might deserve it. But it is not up to anyone to take the law into their own hands. Even if they are a cop they shouldn't just knock them off (I'm not suggesting it has happened), let alone an average person.
If someone thinks they can act judge and executioner person I think they should be locked up forever. (not 20years, until they are not breathing).
It might sound good stuff getting rid off the crap, but there is no proper method of determining guilt or lack of it with that method.
If you have to do what you must in self defense that is fine, or if they kill a family member and you knew it was them, I can see it from that angle. But a petty thief with no trial etc, that is wrong.

Dawn Patrol said...

I think its bad. Sure the people might deserve it. But it is not up to anyone to take the law into their own hands. Even if they are a cop they shouldn't just knock them off (I'm not suggesting it has happened), let alone an average person.
If someone thinks they can act judge and executioner person I think they should be locked up forever. (not 20years, until they are not breathing).
It might sound good stuff getting rid off the crap, but there is no proper method of determining guilt or lack of it with that method.
If you have to do what you must in self defense that is fine, or if they kill a family member and you knew it was them, I can see it from that angle. But a petty thief with no trial etc, that is wrong.

so if a guy that was killed, who happened to also be a suspected ( his fingerprints on the childs rooms window) child rapist, was done in by the childs father, would that be ok?

just asking..... all becomes rather complex as the operative word here is.. "suspected"

i do think that guy would get what he had coming and one less oxygen theif (sic) in the world is a good thing. what if he was also well known around the area as a theif and had 300 prior convictions - watch the news to see what im talking about.


vigilanteism sounds nice in theory, the public returning the balance of justice and so forth but ultimatly and sadly its at the demise of everyones freedom.

Perhaps there are other solutions to dealing with continued repeat offenders that don’t want to obey societies laws. If they don’t want to live in our society (and thus within its laws) then don’t – bring back a penal system of transportation.

If someone repeatedly offends at something then they are ex-communicated, they lose their citizenship / residency. Give them an opportunity of finding another country that will accept them, and if they can’t (99% of the time) within a suitable timeframe (3 months) whilst incarcerated, then they get transported to a prison colony. Hmmm – maybe history should repeat. Can we find an island we can dump them on and let them survive as best they can, it would have to have a suitable exclusion zone around it where any vessels etc get destroyed if crossing. The island shouldn’t have an overcrowding problem in the long run – it would self regulate in time – remember the drosophila (fruit fly) experiments from school. Wouldn't need to worry about prison guards or any form of assistance whatsoever - leave them totally to their own survival. Give the navy some additional patrol boats and they've got plenty of real practice, when required. And no, I am not thinking of Tasmania – lol. I think as a deterrent this would cut crime considerably.

Hmmm - have I stepped over the humanist line yet.

You might have something there Mark. I read somewhere a few years ago that the cost of each prisoner in the system was $45,000 per annum - be interesting to see if there was a way for them to contribute somehow to WA's infrastructure, which IMO is one of WA's most important aspects of sustained development. Perhaps a number could be rehabilitated that way too, learning a trade/skills etc and contributing to society. Oh no - becoming a humanist again. [}:)]

cops hands are tied most of the time, and its not their fault.. perfect example, returned to car after surf to disturb theives attempting to open my van window with a rock, they smashed the window, then high tailed it when they realised they were busted, i could not give immediate chase, i had to find keys and wait for mates to climb back up the hill from the surf, but i got the rego plate, and even though i was concerned it might have been a stolen car, i was optimistic that we had them this time- cars are regularly broken into at this location... so we packed up and went straight to the cop shop, gave all the details of the event and the rego plate number and was told that they'd get right on it... got a phone call a few hours later, apparently the car had NOT been reported stolen, but when interviewed upon where abouts, the theiving bastards had more witnesses saying that they'd been at home all afternoon than i had witnesses saying they'd smashed my windows, basically just me.... the cops believed my side of events, even appologised for not being able to do anything.. then told me that they even knew the suspected party were a bunch of drug farked trouble makers.... in my opinion, if you catch them, and have the ability or the back up, beat them, beat the living **** out of them

harrytesties said...

sorry about that repeated bit... it just really gets me angry..!!!!!! no i just kept getting logged out when i tried to post, and then i realised i posted it half a dozen times......... please forgive me....

Oh I thought it was just and echo

There seems to be a real problem with property crime around the beaches of WA. If the police or councils won't take it seriously, why don't people use technology to fix the problem.

In this day and age, video cameras are pretty cheap. Approach the council who looks after the car park, offer to setup and maintain a security CCT. Approach car insurance companies at around the same time. See what they have to say.

Are prisons in WA filled up or what? Sydney has a bit of a bad rep for crime but honestly I have not seen any lowlifes patrolling carparks in and around Sydney.