It's just a shame they have such funny ideas about condoms and abortion

DavMen said...

leftfield said...

It's just a shame they have such funny ideas about condoms and abortion

Just because their ideas are different to yours dosen't really make them funny or wrong - just different.
Luckily we live in a country where freedom of speech/choice is allowed.

Yeah but my views don't force people to have an abortion or use condoms, just gives them a chioce.

And yes we are lucky to live in a country where freedom of speech/choice is allowed.

DavMen said...

Nobody is forcing anyone to follow these beliefs - its just their belief and you should respect their right to of their beliefs even if there different to yours.

The days of the Spanish Inquisition have past - people make their own choices - right or wrong good or bad who's to say - not I.

Agreed no-one is being forced to follow these beliefs here.

However the catholic church does try and impose it's will on 'less robust' cultures/countries.

I agree people should be free to believe it whatever they want but what I don't agree with is certain people using their beliefs and moral high ground to then inflict a potentially harmful set of arbitary rules on a population.

they have grown up being brainwashed by the church, historically the church must have been the biggest/most successful con job ever. you gave your wealth to the church and did not question the work of god.

In my opinion a god figure would not create everything just to have the human race devote their lives to sucking up to him so that they hopefully can get a better deal once they are dead. It seems kind of stupid to me

kitecrazzzy said...
In my opinion a god figure would not create everything just to have the human race devote their lives to sucking up to him so that they hopefully can get a better deal once they are dead. It seems kind of stupid to me

Personally I think that there is too much in our 'experience' that works too neatly for it to just have 'happened' due to sheer chance.

Imagine a HUGE junkyard full of broken aeroplanes, (which is really cheating, because they are sort of in the right shape to start with) now pile all the planes up, and set off a huge bomb (big bang) in the middle of the pile. Aside from everything probably being radioactive, the chances of something emerging that you could sit in and safely fly around are so small as to be ridiculous.

Now think of all the things/systems (not man made) that need to be exactly right in order to work, and all of the things that need to be working in order for us to actually survive being alive. Pretty unlikely to have "just happened" I reckon.

Whether any particular "religion" is the right way to explore that concept or not remains to be seen.

Of course, once you're dead and have found out one way or another, it's too late to change your mind!

If anyone here dies soon, please post a message on the forum and let us know the answers...

555 Please tell me you are joking...


That old chestnut the intelligent design crew peddle out.

leftfield said...
Sorry my fault I'd just got to work and was therefore not in the best of moods.

Ditto that!

Mobydisc said...

Bummer,
I did not want this to be a religious debate.

But honestly Moby with a forum topic of "world youth day" someone was gonna bite.

It can; religious arguments, along with politics and a whole lot of other 'serious' stuff, isn't really the idea of Seabreeze. It's meant to be fun. Thread is now locked.

I do like the idea of young people behaving themselves though. Good on 'em.