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elbeau
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14 Jan 2009 8:12pm
Scenario 1

A pit bull is loose in the neighbourhood. It is a rare spotted pit bull of which there are only 2000 left in the world. A women jogger runs past, the dog takes umbrage and in minutes the jogger has her throat taken out and is a bloody pulp on the footpath.
The rangers are called and the dog is gently herded out of the neighbourhood until nightfall when losing sight of it the rangers head for home.
The dog is then free to move on to another neighbourhood if it wishes or even return to the site of it's triumph. When you ask the ranger why? he replies. "It is their environment mate, they can do what they like"
You shake your head at the ranger and think, You're a f%$#^ idiot mate.

Scenario 2

You take your son to hospital with flu like symptoms and a rash. The doctor examines him and concludes your son has meningococcal disease. "he will be dead within hours unless he gets antibiotics" says the doctor.
Of course we will not give him any however because as any one knows that would kill the bacteria and we all know that the human body is the natural environment of bacteria.
You look at him and with barely concealed contempt state "you're an idiot mate!!!

Scenario 3

You're a farmer and your crops are being decimated by locusts. You reach for the phone and the crop dusters number but a hand stays you. "Don't do that" says ä neighbour. It is their natural environment. "Leave them be"
"go away you idiot you say"

There is a shark..............

Richiefish
Richiefish
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14 Jan 2009 9:24pm
your senarios are ridiculous, your logic flawed....
Toadwhispera
Toadwhispera
QLD
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14 Jan 2009 9:33pm
Richiefish said...

your senarios are ridiculous, your logic flawed....


Richie your statement and logic is spot on

Absolute tripe!

Elbeau, go surfing mate leave the computer alone!!
elizabethb
elizabethb
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14 Jan 2009 9:45pm
Supposing such ‘logic’ was possible….

Scenario 1
Was the neighbourhood she was jogging in built on the grounds where this supposed ‘rare pit bull’ resides as a herd/ mass? i.e. We are now discussing the traditional ‘owners’ or life form which used to be the main life of the land.
If so, it usually goes along the lines of ‘beware jogging or being outdoors in this neighbourhood; it is at YOUR OWN RISK’ etc.

Scenario 2
You now have to prioritize within yourself, the priorities of life and bacterial life. Whichever life form you can give a fully ethically supportive and legal supportive response
(i.e.
-if you say no to giving your son the antibiotics, you are placing the doctor in a situation where it would be malpractice and he would HAVE to give your son this antibiotic;

-if you are saying that the doctor will not give it to them because THEY believe they cannot kill the bacteria; that does not medically happen. Unless you are watching an episode of House and the medical profession is portrayed like that.

-it would only be OK ethically, morally and lawfully if it was going to cause him probable brain damage or paralysis that you refused to give it to him).

Next.

Scenario 3
You’re joking right? But o-k.
You can do several things to prevent the locusts from destroying your crops; spray, cover them with whatever they do on farms etc.
I don’t wish to add to much to this; just imagine you’re a farmer and this is your only income.

Shark wise… Shark nets, tag them and have electronic beach alarms that go off when they come within X distance.
Next.
elbeau
elbeau
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14 Jan 2009 8:54pm
elizabethb said...

Supposing such ‘logic’ was possible….

Scenario 1
Was the neighbourhood she was jogging in built on the grounds where this supposed ‘rare pit bull’ resides as a herd/ mass? i.e. We are now discussing the traditional ‘owners’ or life form which used to be the main life of the land.
If so, it usually goes along the lines of ‘beware jogging or being outdoors in this neighbourhood; it is at YOUR OWN RISK’ etc.

Scenario 2
You now have to prioritize within yourself, the priorities of life and bacterial life. Whichever life form you can give a fully ethically supportive response to, legal supportive (i.e. if you say no to giving your son the antibiotics, you are placing the doctor in a situation where it would be malpractice and he would HAVE to give your son this antibiotic; it would only be OK ethically, morally and lawfully if it was going to cause him probable brain damage or paralysis that you refused to give it to him).
Next.

Scenario 3
You’re joking right? But o-k.
You can do several things to prevent the locusts from destroying your crops; spray, cover them with whatever they do on farms etc.
I don’t wish to add to much to this; just imagine you’re a farmer and this is your only income.

Shark wise… Shark nets, tag them and have electronic beach alarms that go off when they come within X distance.
Next.


Absolutely agree
Shark nets
Beach alarms
Some rational way of dealing with a life threatening menace.
As we do with dogs, bacteria and a myriad other dangers to life and limb
knot board
knot board
QLD
1241 posts
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14 Jan 2009 10:02pm
ANOTHER shark thread

Laurie can we have a new Forum Category just for SHARKS?

You could have little shark icons too ~~^~o<

SHARKS - GENERAL
- CLOSE ENCOUNTERS
- MADE UP STORIES
- SHARK LOVERS
- SHARK HATERS
- GPS SHARK FARKING


Isn't it enough to listen to the media bash up every day lately without getting a daily dose of shark theory from the online shark experts too?



elizabethb
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14 Jan 2009 10:13pm
Oh I apologize that I come across as an 'online shark expert' when I merely responded to a few impossible theories.

As said in the locked thread. You choose to open and read what you want to, respond to what you want to and then complain because of something. It's in the general thread, and he used common sense reverse psychology ethics to make a point.

Needless to say, this is my first or second shark thread I have contributed to; you choose where you wish to make forum contributions. I suppose I mean to say, don't get 'moody' because someone has a different viewpoint on a topic.

knot board said...

ANOTHER shark thread

Laurie can we have a new Forum Category just for SHARKS?

Isn't it enough to listen to the media bash up every day lately without getting a daily dose of shark theory from the online shark experts too?


The Grinch
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733 posts
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14 Jan 2009 9:39pm
elbeau said...

Scenario 1

A pit bull is loose in the neighbourhood. It is a rare spotted pit bull of which there are only 2000 left in the world. A women jogger runs past, the dog takes umbrage and in minutes the jogger has her throat taken out and is a bloody pulp on the footpath.
The rangers are called and the dog is gently herded out of the neighbouhood untill nightfall when losing sight of it the rangers head for home.
The dog is then free to move on to another neighbourhood or if it wishes or even return to the site of it's triumph. When you ask the ranger why? he replies. "It is their environment mate, they have a right to do what they like"
You shake your head at the rangers and think, You're a f%$#^ idiot mate.



I think this happened in melbourne!

(return to the site of it's triumph)
and it didnt have a Triumph, I think it was a Ducati

elbeau
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14 Jan 2009 9:43pm
Toadwhispera said...

Richiefish said...

your senarios are ridiculous, your logic flawed....


Richie your statement and logic is spot on

Absolute tripe!

Elbeau, go surfing mate leave the computer alone!!


I would love to just go surfing Toad but feel compelled to address the irrational way we deal with shark attacks.
Herding them gently away, allowing them to move on to the next beach is idiocy
sausage
sausage
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14 Jan 2009 10:51pm
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Just when you thought it was safe to go back

Coming to a forum near you this summer - Jaws Forum 3

PS - Knotboard, love your little shark emicon

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Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
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14 Jan 2009 10:06pm
Laurie: lock it
poor relative
poor relative
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14 Jan 2009 11:51pm
Did someone say lock


elbeau
elbeau
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15 Jan 2009 12:11am
Richiefish said...

your senarios are ridiculous, your logic flawed....


How so?
Wet Willy
Wet Willy
TAS
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15 Jan 2009 2:43am
Let's just KILL ALL THE SHARKS FIRST and then we can debate it forever more.

The "be nice to sharks" people may turn out to be right, but at least there will be no more shark attacks.
Wet Willy
Wet Willy
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15 Jan 2009 2:44am

I suppose nobody thought to ask THE SHARKS??

elbeau
elbeau
WA
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15 Jan 2009 1:16am
Wet Willy said...


I suppose nobody thought to ask THE SHARKS??




Its funny because it's true
poor relative
poor relative
WA
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15 Jan 2009 7:22am
The answer is simple.
If your worried about sharks don't go into the water.
bigmark100
bigmark100
NSW
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15 Jan 2009 9:56am
as previously stated..... logic is flawed.
i doubt any logic argument would make its in to there, so i wont bother.


laurie
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15 Jan 2009 10:57am
Fear of sharks is the best way to improve the speed of your waterstarts.
NotWal
NotWal
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15 Jan 2009 11:22am
Here's an idea. Why don't we just take all the dead bodies from the morgue, dose them up with something to make them taste nasty and maybe a little poisonous and drop them in the ocean. Anything that eats the bodies will develop an aversion to eating people. Harvest all the useful organs first though. Maybe let the med students have a go at them too. Wouldn't want to waste anything. It could be a new kind of funeral option. "Would you like your dear departed to do something useful"

Ooh, better run it past the ethics police first.
elmo
elmo
WA
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15 Jan 2009 10:33am
NotWal said...

Here's an idea. Why don't we just take all the dead bodies from the morgue, dose them up with something to make them taste nasty and maybe a little poisonous and drop them in the ocean. Anything that eats the bodies will develop an aversion to eating people. Harvest all the useful organs first though. Maybe let the med students have a go at them too. Wouldn't want to waste anything. It could be a new kind of funeral option. "Would you like your dear departed to do something useful"

Ooh, better run it past the ethics police first.


Artificial reef?

drift
drift
VIC
737 posts
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15 Jan 2009 12:38pm
Maybe we should also get rid of hot water taps????

The risk of dying from a shark attack anywhere in the world in 2004 was 1 in 913,200,766. You are 93 times more likely to be killed by contact with a hot water tap than in a shark attack.
GreenPat
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15 Jan 2009 11:55am
poor relative said...

Did someone say lock





You slipping there Relli? I've seen that one before. It's not like you to recycle...
Toadwhispera
Toadwhispera
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15 Jan 2009 12:25pm
poor relative said...

Did someone say lock





Gee he only JUST made it did'nt he! Whew! lucky
evlPanda
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NSW
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15 Jan 2009 2:16pm
Toadwhispera said...

poor relative said...

Did someone say lock





Gee he only JUST made it did'nt he! Whew! lucky


Only because he rolled too. There is no way he could have crouched.

elbeau doesn't like sharks.

I was thinking about this, what does happen when you remove a top-of-the-chain predator. What does the Great White eat? Tuna? I guess we'd just have more tuna.
Wet Willy
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15 Jan 2009 2:58pm
drift said...

Maybe we should also get rid of hot water taps????

The risk of dying from a shark attack anywhere in the world in 2004 was 1 in 913,200,766. You are 93 times more likely to be killed by contact with a hot water tap than in a shark attack.



That figure is for the general population, but the risk among surfers and windsurfers is MUCH higher than for Joe Blow from Canberra who only swims in his backyard pool.

And the risk for windsurfers in sharky waters is higher still. Duhh.
poor relative
poor relative
WA
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15 Jan 2009 1:10pm
GreenPat said...

poor relative said...

Did someone say lock





You slipping there Relli? I've seen that one before. It's not like you to recycle...


I like this one.
So where is the lock Mr Mods?
evlPanda
evlPanda
NSW
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15 Jan 2009 3:38pm
poor relative said...
I like this one.
So where is the lock Mr Mods?


I think the Government should do something about sharks.
Or the church.
sausage
sausage
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15 Jan 2009 2:51pm
evlPanda said...

poor relative said...
I like this one.
So where is the lock Mr Mods?


I think the Government should do something about sharks.
Or the church.


Yes..... yes Panda,
This is the forward thinking this country needs. Now we only need to get the sharks to convert to Hari Krishna and then they will only be able to eat seaweed and jellyfish.
sausage
sausage
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15 Jan 2009 2:54pm
poor relative said...

Did someone say lock





Reli,
Isn't he getting out before being locked in? I'm all confused with this locking and unlocking.
evlPanda
evlPanda
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15 Jan 2009 4:04pm
sausage said...

evlPanda said...

poor relative said...
I like this one.
So where is the lock Mr Mods?


I think the Government should do something about sharks.
Or the church.


Yes..... yes Panda,
This is the forward thinking this country needs. Now we only need to get the sharks to convert to Hari Krishna and then they will only be able to eat seaweed and jellyfish.


I'm pretty sure the Wobbygong shark only eats Jelly.

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