emergency calls on mobile?

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Billys
Billys
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4 Apr 2010 10:52am
Thinking about carrying a mobile phone whist out on the water but don't want to carry my new phone in case i wreck it. If I use my old phone with no SIM card, can you still make 000 emergency calls? I haven't been game to test it as they get enough prank calls already.
sandman
sandman
WA
432 posts
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4 Apr 2010 10:17am
pretty sure every phone sold in australia will be able to dial 000 from the 'insert sim card screen' on mine, if I start typing in a standard phone number (eg, press 9) the phone does nothing. If I press 0 it will show up as if I'm making a call, and will show a red screen with "emergency calls only"

Basically, you dont need to make the call, just type the number and if it shows up but others dont then it sould work.
stamp
stamp
QLD
2798 posts
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4 Apr 2010 1:06pm
if you're worried about being stranded better off to buy an EPIRB, at least its water proof, will give your location, and is much easier to operate than a phone if it hits the fan.
are you doing open water crossings or something? if not then don't you think more clutter only takes enjoyment away and hampers manouverability? my advice is don't go out further than you are comfortable swimming.
pweedas
pweedas
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4 Apr 2010 2:27pm
Be aware that mobile phones only have "line of sight" reception.
i.e if you can't see the transmitter then you don't get reception.
So you can be only a few kms from the antenna and not get through, or you can be 40 km away, up on a hill and get ok reception.
Not a good thing to rely on for safety, but better than nothing.
Greenroom
Greenroom
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7608 posts
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4 Apr 2010 6:06pm
Any mobile locked, unlocked, sim or no sim can make emergency phone calls. I was told this when doing a first aid course.
The number is not 000.
Its 112
FormulaNova
FormulaNova
WA
15105 posts
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4 Apr 2010 7:04pm
Greenroom said...

Any mobile locked, unlocked, sim or no sim can make emergency phone calls. I was told this when doing a first aid course.
The number is not 000.
Its 112


Australian released mobiles are generally setup to allow calls to 000 as well as 112. You are right though, 112 is the universal/international emergency number on mobiles.
firiebob
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4 Apr 2010 7:13pm
Another idea www.findmespot.net.au/
stamp
stamp
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4 Apr 2010 9:58pm
sorry for the hijack, but why the hell did australia decide on 000 for emergencies? with modern touchkey phones its fine, but with the old 'put your finger in and turn' dials the 0 took the longest to click around. three 0s would take about 10 seconds longer to dial than three 1s.
firiebob
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4 Apr 2010 9:43pm
stamp said...

sorry for the hijack, but why the hell did australia decide on 000 for emergencies? with modern touchkey phones its fine, but with the old 'put your finger in and turn' dials the 0 took the longest to click around. three 0s would take about 10 seconds longer to dial than three 1s.


Wouldn't have a clue but maybe harder for kids to dial 000 playing with the phone ?

FormulaNova
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5 Apr 2010 6:44am
stamp said...

sorry for the hijack, but why the hell did australia decide on 000 for emergencies? with modern touchkey phones its fine, but with the old 'put your finger in and turn' dials the 0 took the longest to click around. three 0s would take about 10 seconds longer to dial than three 1s.


Probably for that exact reason - that it takes the longest and is much less likely to be dialed accidentally.

You are going back to the days when phone exchanges were mechanical, so reducing the number of accidental calls probably had a greater impact than it might today.

10 seconds? I don't think they were that slow. Maybe 3 to 6? I don't think it makes much difference to the overall response time.


j murray
j murray
SA
947 posts
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5 Apr 2010 3:24pm

Maybe international emergency codes are that way so as things can be

differentiated between country. America has had 999 much longer than our

000 in Australia. Other country's have different numbers.

I did like the story today of the 80odd year old digger in hospital in Lismore

who awoke during the night soaked to the skin. Being bed ridden he didn't

know if it were blood or sweat, so he rang for the night nursing staff. They

didn't arrive, so he dialed 000 on his mobile and asked to get someone to

attend to him [ he deserves that ]. They came and fixed him up then

disabled his mobile. Someones head should roll there, our diggers deserve

a better life and death than that. Lest We Forget. Good On You Digger
Trant
Trant
NSW
601 posts
NSW, 601 posts
5 Apr 2010 6:20pm
stamp said...

sorry for the hijack, but why the hell did australia decide on 000 for emergencies? with modern touchkey phones its fine, but with the old 'put your finger in and turn' dials the 0 took the longest to click around. three 0s would take about 10 seconds longer to dial than three 1s.


In the UK, I was told that 999 was originally picked because electrical storms could produce static/clicks on the line which mimic a "1". So a 111 could be accidentally dialled.
Obviously not an issue now.
pweedas
pweedas
WA
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5 Apr 2010 5:17pm
Trant said...

In the UK, I was told that 999 was originally picked because electrical storms could produce static/clicks on the line which mimic a "1". So a 111 could be accidentally dialled.
Obviously not an issue now.


That's the one Bob.
In fact just tapping the handset cradle sends out a single pulse, same as dialing 1.
If you tapped the handset 3 times slowly, it was the same as dialing 111.

Prior to the new fangled rotary dial telephones, you used to phone up by just picking up the handset, cranking the magneto generator next to the phone and waiting for the operator to say "Number please?"
And you would say "Gimme Claremont 123 please."
And she would plug in and out a few cables on her patch panel and say "Putting you through nooooowwwwww,.."
And then she would proceed to eavesdrop. (True.)

Phone numbers were just 3 digits back then, and I used to tie an onion to my belt, which was the style back then,.. No wait. That last bit's not true. The 3 digit phone numbers is true but.
Anyways, they were sometimes a bit slow responding so you would tap the handset cradle a few times to wake them up. Each tap would flash a light and ring a bell in the exchange where the operator girls were.
Sometimes they would get stroppy with this and it would make them take twice as long. (That bit's true too.)

Sometime in about the mid '50s I think, when they changed to the rotary dial, it was thought that if this habit of tapping the cradle a few times persisted, they would get dozens of emergency calls each day, so 999 was a better option.
Almost no one tapped the handset 27 times in three groups of 9's.

It was also decided that since the 9 was right next to the dial stop tag it would be easier to find in the dark or in smoke if your house was burning down around your ears.
Just put your finger in the first hole next to the tag and dial.
There was quit a bit of discussion about it at the time because lots of people didn't want to sit there dialing 999 while their house burnt down around them.
But hey, that was back in the days when Telstra / Telecom / (Postmaster Generals Dept, as it then was), was a government monopoly and their motto was,
"The customer is ALWAYS wrong."

So we got 999 for emergencies.
(For all ex PMG / exchange operator girls, Red thumbs is the one on the left.
Ahhh just pithing mythelf here. )

{EDIT} AN error has been made.
Sheesh! I must ease up on the after dinner drinks.
Of course we never dialed 999. It was always 000
All the rest looks ok. Logic is the same.
How come nobody pulled me up on this?
Doesn't anybody read my posts?
I'm going to have to say something controversial again.
(Can't think of anything right now. Sorry.)
Sailhack
Sailhack
VIC
5000 posts
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6 Apr 2010 8:54am
Apparently 911 works too, due to the Americanised education our kids are getting from their teacher TV. Good idea though Billys, never thought of that, and I've got a couple of old mobs that I could use.
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