how much sunshine do we need for good health

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petermac33
petermac33
WA
6415 posts
WA, 6415 posts
27 Jun 2010 7:04am
staying up till all hours and sleeping in till all hours, i have noticed i have being getting depressed. thinking due to lack of sunshine.

thinking this lack of sunshine has also significantly affected my ability to fall asleep and to stay asleep for extended periods.

i am convinced this depression/insomnia is caused by only getting 5/10 minutes per day of sunshine.



Coinciding with the first week of summer, a study published today underscores the importance of getting adequate amounts of sunlight for its vitamin D-boosting benefits. The research, published in the Archives of Internal Medicine, shows that those with the lowest vitamin D levels have more than double the risk of dying from heart disease and other causes over an eight-year period compared with those with the highest vitamin D levels. The researchers cite "decreased outdoor activity" as one reason that people may become deficient in vitamin D. Another recent study found an increased risk of heart attacks in those with low vitamin D levels.


In the winter, it's impossible to produce vitamin D from the sun if you live north of Atlanta because the sun never gets high enough in the sky for its ultraviolet B rays to penetrate the atmosphere. But summer is a great time to stock up on the nutrient. When the sun's UV-B rays hit the skin, a reaction takes place that enables skin cells to manufacture vitamin D. If you're fair skinned, experts say going outside for 10 minutes in the midday sun—in shorts and a tank top with no sunscreen—will give you enough radiation to produce about 10,000 international units of the vitamin. Dark-skinned individuals and the elderly also produce less vitamin D, and many folks don't get enough of the nutrient from dietary sources like fatty fish and fortified milk.

The government's dietary recommendations are 200 IUs a day up to age 50, 400 IUs to age 70, and 600 IUs over 70. But many experts believe that these recommendations are far too low to maintain healthful vitamin D levels. They advocate for supplementation in the winter of about 2,000 IUs per day and a dose of daily sunshine in the summer.

The sunshine vitamin may protect against a host of diseases, including osteoporosis, heart disease, and cancers of the breast, prostate, and colon. What's more, sunlight has other hidden benefits—like protecting against depression, insomnia, and an overactive immune system.

Given all the upsides of basking at least briefly in the summer sun, many experts now worry that public-health messages warning about skin cancer have gone overboard in getting people to cover up and seek the shade. U.S.News got in touch with Robyn Lucas, an epidemiologist at Australian National University who led a study published in the February issue of the International Journal of Epidemiology. Her finding: Far more lives are lost to diseases caused by a lack of sunlight than to those caused by too much.

Do you think the United States and other western countries have gone too far in promoting protection from the sun?
Possibly. Sun protection messages arose in response to rapidly increasing rates of skin cancers, and they were an essential public-health message. But we now recognize that some sun exposure is important for health, at the very least, to maintain healthful vitamin D levels. (Sunscreen blocks out nearly all UV radiation.) Taking this into account, the Cancer Council of Australia has eased its sun protection message a little over the last few years and now recommends that if you're out in the sun for relatively short periods, with a UV index less than 3, which indicates a moderate amount of UV rays hitting your area on a given day, then sunscreen and other sun protection (like hats and protective clothing) are not required. Beyond this, I believe we all need a little unprotected time in the sun during the middle hours of the day when the sun is at its highest and UV-B rays can penetrate the atmosphere.

How much sun is it safe to get without sunscreen?
It's difficult to quantify how much since skin pigmentation affects how much radiation your skin absorbs: The darker the skin, the more it's protected against skin cancer but the less able it is to absorb UV-B rays. It also depends on how much skin is exposed and the time of day. If you're fair skinned and sunning yourself outside in a bathing suit at noon, you only need a few minutes without sunscreen. If you're already tan or of Hispanic origin, you need maybe 15 to 20 minutes. Black skin may require six times the sun exposure to make the same vitamin D levels as a very fair-skinned person, but we need more research on this because the studies that have suggested this have been small. We're starting a study later this year to establish how much skin pigmentation, clothing, sunscreen, and seasonal change affect vitamin D levels, so we should know more about all of this in the near future.




FBRoy
FBRoy
NSW
101 posts
NSW, 101 posts
27 Jun 2010 10:32am
petermac33 said...

staying up till all hours and sleeping in till all hours, i have noticed i have being getting depressed. thinking due to lack of sunshine.

thinking this lack of sunshine has also significantly affected my ability to fall asleep and to stay asleep for extended periods.

i am convinced this depression/insomnia is caused by only getting 5/10 minutes per day of sunshine.



Coinciding with the first week of summer, a study published today underscores the importance of getting adequate amounts of sunlight for its vitamin D-boosting benefits. The research, published in the Archives of Internal Medicine, shows that those with the lowest vitamin D levels have more than double the risk of dying from heart disease and other causes over an eight-year period compared with those with the highest vitamin D levels. The researchers cite "decreased outdoor activity" as one reason that people may become deficient in vitamin D. Another recent study found an increased risk of heart attacks in those with low vitamin D levels.


In the winter, it's impossible to produce vitamin D from the sun if you live north of Atlanta because the sun never gets high enough in the sky for its ultraviolet B rays to penetrate the atmosphere.



Are you living north of Atlanta and Hispanic? (somehow I doubt Perth is north of Atlanta and I suspect the Hispanic population is not that high)

If not, you could probably go outside for some time during the day and receive enough. How about 30 minutes of chemtrail spotting?

You can get lights that are intended to simulate sunshine to give try and combat this problem.

Do you have a job that requires you to work normal hours?

NotWal
NotWal
QLD
7436 posts
QLD, 7436 posts
27 Jun 2010 11:42am
Isn't melatonin an antidote for SADS?
Sailhack
Sailhack
VIC
5000 posts
VIC, 5000 posts
27 Jun 2010 12:00pm
I watched an interesting doco a year ago about teens & their need for sleep, but lack of it due to current lifestyles. Teens (like yourself) are tending to stay up later, and during puberty (not sure if this is the case for you pm33?) need up to 10hrs sleep per night...adults about 8hrs.

Sunlight comes into the equation...first you need to set a sleep routine - get to bed earlier, then when you wake up in the morning you need to get immediate sunlight - open curtains etc. If you need to wake up pre-dawn, buy yourself a sunlamp & sit in front of it for a (professionally recommended) time first thing.

From what I remember of the doco, the schoolkid got her sleep routine in order, and was able to fall asleep within 10mins and was able to wake up in time to get ready for school. Her physical & mental health improved, and concentration levels went up, including her grades.

So to summarise...you're right, we need sunlight, and a sleep routine!
Trant
Trant
NSW
601 posts
NSW, 601 posts
27 Jun 2010 12:28pm
Coincidentally I've just been reading a story on bbc.co.uk about Gwyneth Paltrow. She's been diagnosed with the early stages of Osteoporosis because:

1) She doesn't get enough Vitamin D
2) She hasn't been getting enough calcium/protein

So there you go, get outside before you break a leg
Poida
Poida
WA
1922 posts
WA, 1922 posts
27 Jun 2010 2:22pm
Maybe try a 45min brisk walk during the day, every day. Might help.
desertyank
desertyank
1264 posts
1264 posts
27 Jun 2010 4:06pm
This quote came from the bavarian brewery tech folks...

"VITAMINS - Beer contains all important B-vitamins, also vitamins A, D and E. For instance, two pints or one liter of beer covers 35% of the daily requirement of vitamin B6, 20% of the requirement of B2 and 65% of the requirement of Niacin. The same amount of beer contains about 200 mg vitamins and vitaminoid compounds which originate mainly from malt."

sounds like the key to good health is BEER!!!! cheers!
sausage
sausage
QLD
4874 posts
QLD, 4874 posts
27 Jun 2010 7:23pm
Shouldn't that be "How much wind do we need for good health?"
frant
frant
VIC
1230 posts
VIC, 1230 posts
27 Jun 2010 7:30pm
desertyank said...

This quote came from the bavarian brewery tech folks...

"VITAMINS - Beer contains all important B-vitamins, also vitamins A, D and E. For instance, two pints or one liter of beer covers 35% of the daily requirement of vitamin B6, 20% of the requirement of B2 and 65% of the requirement of Niacin. The same amount of beer contains about 200 mg vitamins and vitaminoid compounds which originate mainly from malt."

sounds like the key to good health is BEER!!!! cheers!


Only if it is consumed in a beergarden
oliver
oliver
3952 posts
3952 posts
27 Jun 2010 6:24pm
petermac33 said...

staying up till all hours and sleeping in till all hours, i have noticed i have being getting depressed. thinking due to lack of sunshine.

thinking this lack of sunshine has also significantly affected my ability to fall asleep and to stay asleep for extended periods.

i am convinced this depression/insomnia is caused by only getting 5/10 minutes per day of sunshine.



I sometimes crave tomatoes and sardines. I used to sit 5 days a week 8 hours a day under buzzing fluorescent lights. Took me a while to figure out why I was depressed. You should listen to what your body is saying - go for a walk/bike ride each day for at least 30 minutes and take the time to smell the roses. Natural light, fresh air and sunshine are good things.
poor relative
poor relative
WA
9106 posts
WA, 9106 posts
27 Jun 2010 7:53pm
oliver said...
I used to sit 5 days a week 8 hours a day under buzzing fluorescent lights. Took me a while to figure out why I was depressed.


You see Oliver prostitution will eventually take its toll.
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