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2231alex
2231alex
NSW
4 posts
NSW, 4 posts
27 Dec 2009 9:25pm
hey im moven to nimben, i'm startting 3yr fitter and turner. can any one help us out with a job around the area sum were. or sum 1 looking 4 a apprentic i got my own transport.


thanks if any 1 can help us
mineral1
mineral1
WA
4564 posts
WA, 4564 posts
27 Dec 2009 9:24pm
2231alex said...

hey im moven to nimben, i'm startting 3yr fitter and turner. can any one help us out with a job around the area sum were. or sum 1 looking 4 a apprentic i got my own transport.


thanks if any 1 can help us



Alex, would normally PM you, but server is playing up. Your request is rather lacking in some basic English skills
I think this is what you asked, and maybe a quick upgrade in the writing skills will improve your prospects, because right now, you do not come across that sharp as a prospective apprentice putting a request in such a shoddy manner for all to read. Your not using a mobile phone text message system, your on the Internet
Hi all, I am moving to Nimban (I have no idea what you saying here "i'm startting 3yr fitter and turner" as the next passage contradicts your statement)
Can any prospective employer assist me with an apprenticeship in this field of Fitting and Turning please. I have own transport.
And yes I do hire people who look at apprenticeships, but your request would go direct to the "look no further pile" when its written like it is. How about you tidy up the request. Many will look at it and help you should it read, showing some level of skills in written English.
greenleader
greenleader
QLD
5283 posts
QLD, 5283 posts
28 Dec 2009 12:32am
shudder
cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
QLD, 12365 posts
28 Dec 2009 10:21am
Quote:- showing some level of skills in written English.

Is that not one of the core prerequisites for any employment above the level of street sweeper or ditch digger.

Our youth are being dumbed down.
mineral1
mineral1
WA
4564 posts
WA, 4564 posts
28 Dec 2009 12:42pm
cisco said...

Quote:- showing some level of skills in written English.

Is that not one of the core prerequisites for any employment above the level of street sweeper or ditch digger.

Our youth are being dumbed down.


Cisco, he is possibly OK with English, and I reckon not too bad a lad who is having a go. However as you indicated, the buggers are being dumbed down. They are loosing the skills of general communication, both written and verbal

If only somebody in his family group, or close mates would give him a leg up, most young guns come good. Its that bloody leg up they just cant get, as its not looked upon as an embarrassment when you are struggling to express yourself from his peer group..
shark
shark
WA
361 posts
WA, 361 posts
28 Dec 2009 12:44pm
being a fitter turner, while not really requiring expert grammar skills, does require a fairly good standard of mathematics.
While its entirely possible that your English school results are poor but maths is top of the range, it does seem unlikely and certainly anyone reading this would likely laugh this off as a troll.
Especially with only 4 posts on here.
But Im suggesting, as others have already that you need to brush up on presentation and learn to sell your self.
You will only get one chance in approaching businesses as above, and eventually you will run out of people to approach with a first impression.

Nimben probably isnt the best place to pursue a career either?
upwind
upwind
QLD
166 posts
QLD, 166 posts
28 Dec 2009 3:07pm
All of that is true, however, I was absolutely horrified quite a few years back when my daughter came home and told me that English was no longer compulsory in high school.We reap what we sow ??????????? I believe English is compulsory in some foreign speaking countries............. what the F###!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
QLD, 12365 posts
28 Dec 2009 3:29pm
I agree with you both. However the education system we have seems to be failing.

Many of the homework questions I have seen my children come home with would be more appropriate as word and number puzzles in the back of a magazine.

My daughter, now 18, quite mentally capable and achieved very good results at primary school, simply refused to go any further with her high school education three quarters of the way through her final year.

She claimed the teachers were boring her silly. The school is the largest in town with around 1,600 students and we have a population here of around 70,000.

The school seems to be overly represented by female teachers with only one or two males in the teaching staff.

For the last 15 months she has just been going from pillar to post with various traineeships (hospitality, office work) and has not developed any sort of career direction. Peer group pressure and home environment are partly to blame but like many teenage girls today, she is very head strong and does not accept parental advice or direction well at all.

Now I have my 12yo son about to enter high school. He has been achieving excellent results at primary school and I am desperatly hoping he will stay on that track through high school by being able to see that it will lead to something.

Seems that when a young person is asked what they want to be as adults it mostly comes down to "rich and famous". Overly ambitious and generalised.

Should I worry or just get on with my own things??
deXtrous
deXtrous
NSW
451 posts
NSW, 451 posts
28 Dec 2009 4:35pm
mineral1 said...

cisco said...

Quote:- showing some level of skills in written English.

Is that not one of the core prerequisites for any employment above the level of street sweeper or ditch digger.

Our youth are being dumbed down.


Cisco, he is possibly OK with English, and I reckon not too bad a lad who is having a go. However as you indicated, the buggers are being dumbed down. They are loosing the skills of general communication, both written and verbal

If only somebody in his family group, or close mates would give him a leg up, most young guns come good. Its that bloody leg up they just cant get, as its not looked upon as an embarrassment when you are struggling to express yourself from his peer group..




How ironic
sausage
sausage
QLD
4874 posts
QLD, 4874 posts
28 Dec 2009 4:03pm
deXtrous said...

mineral1 said...

cisco said...

Quote:- showing some level of skills in written English.

Is that not one of the core prerequisites for any employment above the level of street sweeper or ditch digger.

Our youth are being dumbed down.


Cisco, he is possibly OK with English, and I reckon not too bad a lad who is having a go. However as you indicated, the buggers are being dumbed down. They are loosing the skills of general communication, both written and verbal

If only somebody in his family group, or close mates would give him a leg up, most young guns come good. Its that bloody leg up they just cant get, as its not looked upon as an embarrassment when you are struggling to express yourself from his peer group..




How ironic



What's even more ironic is that someone so young and who kites actually picked up a spelling mistake. You Dextrous have proven to be an exception to the rule.
mineral1
mineral1
WA
4564 posts
WA, 4564 posts
28 Dec 2009 2:22pm
deXtrous said...

mineral1 said...

cisco said...

Quote:- showing some level of skills in written English.

Is that not one of the core prerequisites for any employment above the level of street sweeper or ditch digger.

Our youth are being dumbed down.


Cisco, he is possibly OK with English, and I reckon not too bad a lad who is having a go. However as you indicated, the buggers are being dumbed down. They are loosing the skills of general communication, both written and verbal

If only somebody in his family group, or close mates would give him a leg up, most young guns come good. Its that bloody leg up they just cant get, as its not looked upon as an embarrassment when you are struggling to express yourself from his peer group..




How ironic



Choice and go to the top of the class. (an jump off[}:)])
@$#$@#%$# bloody auto spell checkers
KEARNSY
KEARNSY
WA
1322 posts
WA, 1322 posts
28 Dec 2009 3:37pm
AYE YOU LOT!!! Im a fitter and machinist and i cant spell for $hit. But one thing I do know is that Im quite allright at maths , I know my trade insideout and I would get a job anywhere in the world no worries.

Alex Why are you moving to Nimbin??? Seriously? No there isnt any places for you to even look for that kind of work let alone a 4YEAR training agreement.

If you are serious about becoming a fitter the next closest industrial area would be Balina, Gold coast , Brisbane or Newcastle.

Anyway If you end up In NIMBIN I dont think you will be needing this site anymore.
Crops grow well out that way I hear. Maybe concider becoming a farmer.....
Wannabe
Wannabe
NSW
148 posts
NSW, 148 posts
28 Dec 2009 6:44pm
upwind said...

All of that is true, however, I was absolutely horrified quite a few years back when my daughter came home and told me that English was no longer compulsory in high school.We reap what we sow ??????????? I believe English is compulsory in some foreign speaking countries............. what the F###!!!!!!!!!!!!!


While this was not the case when I went through school, I don't believe english should be compulsory in later stages of high school.
I'm not saying that it's not an important subject, it has become irrelevant.

Spelling, Grammar and the like are no longer specifically taught past year 8. It becomes more important to be able to analyse the cinematic techniques used by the directors of films.

If it was the english language that was being taught, like in some foreign speaking countries, I would agree that it should be compulsory, however watching movies to see what effect the lighting has on the story line seems like a bit of a waste of time.

Please do not correct this and tell me to go back to school. I finished high school and passed english with little trouble. They taught me about watching movies :(
cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
QLD, 12365 posts
29 Dec 2009 12:54am
What the heck are you talking about?

Are you saying that precision in expressing one's self is irrelevant when it comes to being precise in one's profession?

If you regard a plumber as a non professional because he is NOT university trained and an accountant as a professional because he IS university trained, you are likely to get plumbing and financial advice, neither of which will hold water!!

You say at high school "they" taught you how to watch movies. For what purpose? Becoming a film critic?

Do you think that if a script writer had not a command of the language, the actors would gain an understanding of the characters they are to portray?
ducati
ducati
QLD
474 posts
QLD, 474 posts
29 Dec 2009 10:03am
KEARNSY said...

AYE YOU LOT!!! Im a fitter and machinist and i cant spell for $hit. But one thing I do know is that Im quite allright at maths , I know my trade insideout and I would get a job anywhere in the world no worries.

Alex Why are you moving to Nimbin??? Seriously? No there isnt any places for you to even look for that kind of work let alone a 4YEAR training agreement.

If you are serious about becoming a fitter the next closest industrial area would be Balina, Gold coast , Brisbane or Newcastle.

Anyway If you end up In NIMBIN I dont think you will be needing this site anymore.
Crops grow well out that way I hear. Maybe concider becoming a farmer.....


Actually Lismore which is only 30min drive from Nimbin is THE major industrial area for the Northern Rivers.
I'm also a fitter and machinist and for many years commuted to Lismore which has at least 3 major manufacturers for sandmining, logging, mining, sugar and farming equipment.
Although they've had to diversify a fair bit now.

Jobs are very competitive at first, and as mentioned above attitude, experience and presentation is everything.
But once you've got your foot in the door and in the 'know' jobs are quite easy to come by.


KEARNSY
KEARNSY
WA
1322 posts
WA, 1322 posts
29 Dec 2009 8:34am
Really Ducatti. I did'nt know that. There ya go , learn something new every day
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