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oliver
oliver
3952 posts
3952 posts
24 Apr 2010 5:19pm
I've been smoking since I started at 14. I've given up numerous times during the past 30 years and the longest I've lasted is four years. I'm not ready to give up the smokes right now - I'm busy getting other vices under control. When I'm done with them, I want to try to kick this horrid habit again. Smoking has always been the hardest and most insidious habit to remove from my life.

This forum often offers me some different ways of looking at problems. For those of us that battle vices - let me know of some different strategies you've used to kick habits - particularly smoking.
stamp
stamp
QLD
2800 posts
QLD, 2800 posts
24 Apr 2010 8:48pm
i was a pack a day smoker (from 16 to 29 years old) and tried to give up many times using different methods.
in the end i had a bet with a good mate- we each put $250 in the kitty, then every week we threw in another $50 each and the first one to smoke had to pay up. it wasn't the money as much as not wanting my mate to get the better of me. i won the bet, and haven't had a cig since 28th of march 2005. (i still hang for them everyday, and have to stop myself having "just one").

good luck

James
James
WA
549 posts
WA, 549 posts
24 Apr 2010 7:19pm
I smoked two packs of 30 a day before giving up. The audible wheeze, and the rattling chest were scary to live with. I stopped without patches and the like, nothing more than a bag of lollies. I saw my old man "live" with emphysema,he could take a few steps then he'd have to stand for a while to recover. I went to visit a former work associate in Feb of this year, he was a welder, he now sits at home all day. He's on oxygen 24/7, has an oxygen generator at home and cylinders for when he goes out. he can't bend over, can't squat, his greatest passion was his veggie patch, he can't even tend that anymore. If the warnings on the pack and TV are'nt enough to convice you to stop, maybe you need to see someone with emphysema. That might just do it for ya. Good luck, J
Jukebox
Jukebox
NSW
155 posts
NSW, 155 posts
24 Apr 2010 9:21pm
Hi Oliver COUGH COUGH WHEEZ . That,s better
If your other vices are worse than smoking then good luck with them
I have a couple of strategies that worked for me I,m smoke free since 26 Jan 1995
I too started on the bangers in my early teens and kicked the habit at 28
Strategy 1 Thought to self . I have smoked half my life i,ll stay smoke free for the next half I figure that will make me about 56 but 60 is a nice round number
Strategy 2 If you change jobs in the near future or move to a new place , meet new people etc you introduce yourself and if the topic of smoking comes up , standard reply Oh no thanks i don,t smoke , if you want to save face you,ll stick to it
One other is to give up on an anniversary day Australia day , Birthday ,Anzac day etc Good luck hope this help,s BTW if your a surfer not smoking has obvious benefit,s Eg hold downs on big day,s are a lot more bearable yeeha Eddie would go
Jukebox
Jukebox
NSW
155 posts
NSW, 155 posts
24 Apr 2010 9:39pm
James said...

I smoked two packs of 30 a day before giving up. The audible wheeze, and the rattling chest were scary to live with. I stopped without patches and the like, nothing more than a bag of lollies. I saw my old man "live" with emphysema,he could take a few steps then he'd have to stand for a while to recover. I went to visit a former work associate in Feb of this year, he was a welder, he now sits at home all day. He's on oxygen 24/7, has an oxygen generator at home and cylinders for when he goes out. he can't bend over, can't squat, his greatest passion was his veggie patch, he can't even tend that anymore. If the warnings on the pack and TV are'nt enough to convice you to stop, maybe you need to see someone with emphysema. That might just do it for ya. Good luck, J


Good on you James I watched my dad die from the big E he died on Father,s day last year If that,s not bad enough he actually gave the cigs away 12 years ago and thought he was safe after smoking for 50 year,s
( Think of those closest to you Olli old mate and do everybody a favor )
RIP Dad I miss you every day
elbeau
elbeau
WA
988 posts
WA, 988 posts
24 Apr 2010 8:16pm
I smoked for twenty years. I lived for them. Nothing else mattered as long as I had my smokes.

Decided one day if I loved them so much.Why not have a feast?

I then bought twice the amount I usually smoked plus ones I had laying around then proceeded to smoke one at a time all day. Soon as one was finished I started a new one.

Around midnight I had 6 smokes left. I smoked them all at once.

I have never smoked since then and the thought of them makes me sick.

It has been about 15 years since then
elbeau
elbeau
WA
988 posts
WA, 988 posts
24 Apr 2010 8:29pm
Just an addit to the above.

I calculated how much I spent in a year on smokes then went out and spent the money on a new surfboard and wetsuit.

I prayed.

I found strangely enough that the strategy of taking 3 deep breaths when I felt like a cigarette was hugely beneficial. Many times I would do this during the weening time.

5 minutes later I would think. Gee I needed a smoke back then and I had just forgotten about it.
j murray
j murray
SA
947 posts
SA, 947 posts
24 Apr 2010 10:01pm

I too was a smoker, 1 pack of 20 per day, driving machines , trucks

on along overnight trip for an early am delivery, about 2 days after the birth

of our first child. I was 42 wife 37. Lonely and in the middle of nowhere,

nothing open.

Asked myself what could i do for this child for the rest of her life.

STOP SMOKING, was the answer, Half pack and new full pack, out the

window. Daughter now 22 doing 2nd degree at Uni, is not gona marry a

trucky, I'm stoked. It's all in the mind, you need to want to do it. It wasn't

easy. Go for it , you can do it, if I can!! Best of luck..
bazl
bazl
WA
704 posts
WA, 704 posts
24 Apr 2010 10:21pm
If you want to quit bad enough then it will happen.
Flusha
Flusha
WA
20 posts
WA, 20 posts
24 Apr 2010 10:43pm
Go to your local GP and get a script for Champix. Anti smoking drug introduced in Aussie a couple of years ago. A bit full on as it is a drug that effects your brain. Think a few people in the states have gone nuts after takin it. Worked a treat for me and that was after years of trying to quit. After takin the little blue pills for two weeks even the thought of havin a fag made me want to chuck. Made quittin a breeze. Easy as puttin a pill in my mouth. Thank you science....
pweedas
pweedas
WA
4642 posts
WA, 4642 posts
24 Apr 2010 11:39pm
Giving up smoking is sooo easy. I know someone who did it dozens of times.
busterwa
busterwa
3782 posts
3782 posts
25 Apr 2010 7:43am
if you dont Give it up your weak.
upwind
upwind
QLD
166 posts
QLD, 166 posts
25 Apr 2010 10:49am
Like flusha, I used champix, after smoking for 45 years, that was a year ago and I still wouldn't mind a fag now and then but the habit is kicked. had previously tried just about everything to give up.......good luck mate be assured that you will feel much better and you wont stink!!!!!!!!!Funny thing was that I used to drink about 10 cups of coffee a day also, but now maybe just one, helps remove one of the triggers
Gorgo
Gorgo
VIC
5124 posts
VIC, 5124 posts
25 Apr 2010 1:23pm
There's two kinds of addiction:
- addiction to the chemicals provided by the drug.
- addiction to the chemicals produced by your body in reponse to the act of taking the drug (also known as psychological addiction).

The only reason to know this is so you can focus on what you are trying to deal with.

The first kind is fairly easily treated with patches and pills and stuff. The second one is the hard one.

All I can think of is to replace your crap addiction with a good addiction, like SUP, or posting crap on forums.

There's also stuff like cognitive behavioural therapy. Simplistically this means catching yourself doing bad stuff before you do it and making yourself do something good.

At the moment you think of yourself as a smoker trying to give up and your natural reaction to everything is to have a fag.

If you train yourself to think that you are a non-smoker then your natural reaction is to decline a cigarette when they are available.

You can also announce to your friends and family that you no longer smoke and would appreciate their help in not offering them to you. That's what I did and it worked easily.
graceful
graceful
WA
773 posts
WA, 773 posts
25 Apr 2010 5:30pm
ive only just really started, been smoke free for 33 days now after doing a pack of 25s a day for 10 years and feeling sooo much better already

i too jumped onto the champix, they helped me though my first week, but like what was said above beware of these tablets, after taking them for two days i started having really really violent dreams, and when waking up instead of laughing like wtf am i dreaming about.

i became stuck in this mood and seriously felt unstable, i was seriously going nuts, im a full on happy ocean junkie that has nothing to be depressed about but found myself thinking about harming myself waking up out of these dreams so i got off them straight away.

they definitly work dont get me wrong, but is it really worth your sanity!! if your thinking about taking them look up some reports of users on the net, they work fine for alot of people. but most reports are negitive
pi22api22a
pi22api22a
WA
150 posts
WA, 150 posts
25 Apr 2010 9:04pm
easy,, go and visit your loved one in hospital every day for two weeks as she dies...

Its a horrible way to die - QUIT NOW IDIOT !
poor relative
poor relative
WA
9106 posts
WA, 9106 posts
26 Apr 2010 10:53am
I started smoking when i was around 15 really embraced it from about 18 and tried stopping from about 22. I was upto a pack and a half sometimes two packs or if a party night - three packs per day. I loved smoking. Ciggies were like my best mate.

Finally kicked them 6 years or so ago and have vowed to never ever smoke any kind of tobacco ever again no matter how great the temptation

In my quest to pack them in i tried anti depressants (SSRI's), anti depressants and valium, valium, Zyban, patches, lozenges, gum, inhalers, a stupid book and a whole host of other bull**** stuff. None of these worked.

What made me stop was me wanting to stop and willpower.
I was sick of feeling like crap smelling like **** and wheezing everytime i exerted myself. I ended up just stopping, saying to myself thats it no more.

So i guess being in the right headspace is what did it for me.
j murray
j murray
SA
947 posts
SA, 947 posts
26 Apr 2010 9:25pm

poor relly sounds like you bin reborned bro

welcome man to the real world
aussiefreebs
aussiefreebs
VIC
228 posts
VIC, 228 posts
27 Apr 2010 8:43am
I was a heavy smoker from 16 to 33. At 33 the average cost for me to smoke was $90 - $105 per week, in cigarettes thats around 35-45 per day.

After a session at the MCG with mates about 3 years ago, we ended up in a smoky little bar that was absolutely packed. I hate crowds at the best of times, but pissed to the eyeballs I fought my way across the bar to get another packet of ciggies. Astounded, dumbstruck, pissed off when I arrived and found out I had to pay $15 for a pack of PJ super mild 30's from a vending machine and only had the $13 they normally cost. I worked my way back across to the bar, got another beer and change for my ciggies, got back to the ciggy machine, got my ciggies, wrestled my way back to the table. Lit a ciggy, thought this tastes ****, put it out, never smoked again.

I was however so hungover, for the first day I spewed all day, 2nd day couldn't get out of bed, and the 3rd day I thought I had come too far to go back. I still have that packet of ciggies with just 1 cigarette out of it.

I won't go back, gonna have 4 kids in the next week or two. The ones I had back then thought I stank all the time. That alone sucks enough to make me quit.

I still enjoy smoking, I just don't smoke.

Good luck mate.
getfunky
getfunky
WA
4485 posts
WA, 4485 posts
27 Apr 2010 10:53am
Tough gig there Oli.

I was a beer in one hand and ciggy in the other smoker from 14-22. Although I was heavily passively smoking thanks to my folks and their heavy habit combined with car/house windows always being closed (cause you don't want to catch your death in cold from a draft - really). When i started regularly smoking without a beer, i started to attempt to give up. At the time all my mates smoked but now most don't. This made it heaps tougher as they would tempt me with one when on the sauce. It took me half a dozen or so attempts to give it a real knock.

If you are deadset determined use whatever means you can - although apparently cold turkey is the best method as patches etc merely feed the addiction via another input.

Here's my tips for overcoming a craving when someone is smoking in the vacinity.

If they offer you one (cause like my mates they are b@stards) thank them, take the fresh new ciggy and stamp it uner your foot. They stop offering pretty quick after that.

If you are wanting a drag or a whole ciggy ask for a drag of a lit one, place the lit end directly under your snoz and inhale as deeply as you can stand. DISGUSTING. It helped kill my cravings when I was teetering.

Good luck.

Oh and don't forget to enjoy all the new fantastic smells of nature, ocean, food and wine you never knew existed.
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