In qld on the news tonight Max Sica ( killed 3 siblings with a hammer - one of which was a girlfriend, the rest witnesses) got 35 years for their murder which is the largest sentance handed down in queensland. They made a big thing about it in the news. WTF? 35 years for murdering a whole family. I wold have thought jail for the rest of his life would be more appropriate. If it was the US he would have got 150 years if it wasn't a death penalty state.

I cannot understand how someone can commit such a heinous crime and only get 35 years. Gordan Nuttal had a weak moment and pinched some cash (govt minister) Which most of us can sympathise with, and he got nearly the same sentance.

Which is worse? Stealing some cash from your employer because you have financial problems/ had a brain fart (there is some duty of care from the employer to remove temptation to steal when handling large sums of cash) , or murdering a family's 3 children with a hammer and then hiding the evidence and lying for nine years

Murder carries a mandatory life sentence in Qld.

His minimum parole term is 35 years, the longest ever handed out in Qld.

southace said...

I don't understand why he has a hot girlfriend and she claims she's sticking by her man!

Maybe history is a guide!!!

Waterloo said...

Murder carries a mandatory life sentence in Qld.

His minimum parole term is 35 years, the longest ever handed out in Qld.

Its a confusing subject but don't these two sentences contradict each other?

kiteboy dave said...

not much real evidence, a rat perhaps but a careful one.. and so was the dad

Yes it was of those "we all think he did it" but is there reasonable doubt?

It should be - murder 1 person (possibly a 'brain-fart' or crime of passion) and a life sentence (20-35yrs) in prison with rehab...commit a second murder and it should be lethal injection imo. There's no 'reasonable' excuse for committing such a horrendous crime twice!

Sailhack said...

It should be - murder 1 person (possibly a 'brain-fart' or crime of passion) and a life sentence (20-35yrs) in prison with rehab...commit a second murder and it should be lethal injection imo. There's no 'reasonable' excuse for committing such a horrendous crime twice!

So... you know how to do IV cannulation, Sailhack?

I reckon there's no 'reasonable' excuse for blowing up letterboxes on successive Saturday nights, nor keying multiple cars. What do you think?

This a 'brain-fart', or a crime of passion? -
"A former Sydney bank teller who suffocated an elderly customer after stealing hundreds of thousands of dollars from her has slumped to the floor, gasping and moaning, as a judge sent her to prison for at least 14 and a half years...."

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/bank-teller-collapses-at-murder-sentence-20120629-216fy.html



This a 'brain-fart', or a crime of passion? -
"A Sydney man who murdered his lover before cutting up her body with a power saw suffers from traumatic recollections, his sentencing hearing has been told."

www.smh.com.au/nsw/powersaw-murderer-left-traumatised-court-told-20120405-1weif.html#ixzz1zouytcT9


This a 'brain-fart', or a crime of passion?, for a single murder -
"It was hard to believe that the cherub-faced country kid being led from the NSW Supreme Court was about to begin the longest jail sentence given to a juvenile in the state's recent history... the 19-year-old great nephew of serial killer Ivan Milat, began a [maximum] sentence... of 43 years , for a crime so horrible it will live long in our collective memory... with a minimum non-parole period of 30 years for a crime [the judge] described as ''unimaginably cruel, brutal and violent''.

ttp://www.smh.com.au/nsw/tragedy-behind-record-sentence-20120608-201ij.html#ixzz1zoxLZGQD

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By putting up these very recent news stories - from the Sydney area alone!, I am not having a go at you Sailhack - just wanting to demonstrate that there is no easy answer. And this is why we have professional judiciary to decide on case-by-case sentencing. You and I are not in court to see the pages and pages of the social workers summations, or otherwise.

Say, Gunna - looks like this guy drew out the system himself!

"...said that his client was genuinely remorseful, that he had been punished enough, that he had to endure distressing delays, and that in pleading guilty he had saved the state the expense of a third trial.
Judge Mark Marien interrupted, pointing out that the defence challenged for days the allegation that the pistol was in the hand of the accused at the relevant time. Courtney got another five months of jail time.
What we as viewers saw was what the jury didn't see. This would have really opened a lot of eyes to the way criminal justice functions and possibly explains why there is such resistance by judicial authorities to cameras in the courts."

www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/a-verdict-of-eye-opening-on-court-reality-show-20110609-1futw.html

OK... it appears that all of the professional witnesses and such 'mollycoddle' the system by arguing a point of law - so many points of law, actually. It's OK to rant, but then there is the application of the torts or technicalities. It is these things that keep us a civil society, by-and-large, surely?