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myusernam
myusernam
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19 Feb 2013 10:10am
Friend of wifes is selling her 2010 cruize CDX diesel with 23000klms for $18k and has offered it to us before she advertises.

Whadya reckon? car was $28k new.

But in 5 years it probably wont be worth much at all?

For the same money u can get a new petrol hatch like an i30 or similar.

what would u do? Wifes car needs replacing soon

GPA
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19 Feb 2013 8:25am
Check the on-line car sales websites, as there are plenty of bargains out there... and if nothing else it will give you a good sense of market price. FYI:

I picked up an immaculate 2012 Forester auto XS with only 18,000km on it for $31k - was > $40k+ new with on-roads.

I also found my daughter an immaculate 2010 Holden Barina 3dr sports with 16,000km on it for only $10k...
Woodo
Woodo
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19 Feb 2013 8:40am
For 18k i'd be going for either a Corolla or a Lancer. Better reliability and will hold there value more than a cruize.
doggie
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19 Feb 2013 8:53am
Woodo said...
For 18k i'd be going for either a Corolla or a Lancer. Better reliability and will hold there value more than a cruize.


+1 wouldnt touch a Cruise.
mineral1
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19 Feb 2013 9:04am
Check fuel consumption on the cruize.
myusernam
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19 Feb 2013 11:15am
mineral1 said...
Check fuel consumption on the cruize.


ACTUALLY THE MANUAL DEISESL CONSUMPTION IS PRETTY GOOD (OR MEANT TO BE - COMPARITUVE RATe 5.9) sorry caps..
anyway new mazda 3 $20990 drive away ..reckon id be better off

everyone rate the 3? hard to find a bad word. best selling car in oz etc
rod_bunny
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19 Feb 2013 9:28am
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Daewoo_models

Lacetti Premiere J300 (2008-present)
Also marketed as Holden Cruze, also Chevrolet Cruze


doggie
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19 Feb 2013 9:29am
myusernam said...
mineral1 said...
Check fuel consumption on the cruize.


ACTUALLY THE MANUAL DEISESL CONSUMPTION IS PRETTY GOOD (OR MEANT TO BE - COMPARITUVE RATe 5.9) sorry caps..
anyway new mazda 3 $20990 drive away ..reckon id be better off

everyone rate the 3? hard to find a bad word. best selling car in oz etc


Mazda 3 is a good car, only problem is parts back up at the moment.
MDSXR6T
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19 Feb 2013 1:32pm
Sorry but some of you blokes are dreaming! Cruzed are a genuinely decent car and pretty good value for money.

Reliability is great, well built (not compared to a 70k euro but apples with apples) fuel is good and they drive ok (as ok as a slow front wheel drive will drive anyway). Pretty safe etc etc

18k probably not a bad buy if its as good conditions as the kms suggest.

Mrs bought a new SRiV last year and its been fantastic
doggie
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19 Feb 2013 1:52pm
MDSXR6T said...
Sorry but some of you blokes are dreaming! Cruzed are a genuinely decent car and pretty good value for money.

Reliability is great, well built (not compared to a 70k euro but apples with apples) fuel is good and they drive ok (as ok as a slow front wheel drive will drive anyway). Pretty safe etc etc

18k probably not a bad buy if its as good conditions as the kms suggest.

Mrs bought a new SRiV last year and its been fantastic


Fantastic untill you need to get parts for them in a couple of years, you know they are a daewoo dont you?
Ian K
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19 Feb 2013 2:06pm
A quick google says you can get a brand new Cruze for $22,500 driveaway. That's got the full warranty to go, 12 months rego, a brand new set of tyres, a new battery, wiper blades, it doesn't straight away need an oil change and it's an extra year off needing its timing belt replaced. Your savings at $18,000 are getting thin. The CDX version possibly had a whole lot of little over-priced extras, like gps and reversing cameras but you can buy all those aftermarket at Supa Cheep autos for a fraction of the CDX markup.

I've heard the Mazda 3 is also a good car for the same price, but just a little too pretty for a bloke to drive around in don't you think? Get a new Cruze.
MDSXR6T
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19 Feb 2013 2:13pm
Sort of Doggie but didn't daewoo work along side with suzuki manufacturing in the begining?

You'd like to think parts being available wont be an issue as they are made in australia for at least thr last couple of years but i dare say holden (like a lot of companies) are the issue there.

Or simply sell the car before 100/120k kms. Experience tells me thats the age when things start getting tired.
firiebob
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19 Feb 2013 2:37pm
I don't know jack poop but I'd say you need a small 2nd hand diesel wizz bang like a hole in the head. What's the savings week to week if any over a modern petrol ?
doggie
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19 Feb 2013 2:50pm
MDSXR6T said...
Sort of Doggie but didn't daewoo work along side with suzuki manufacturing in the begining?

You'd like to think parts being available wont be an issue as they are made in australia for at least thr last couple of years but i dare say holden (like a lot of companies) are the issue there.

Or simply sell the car before 100/120k kms. Experience tells me thats the age when things start getting tired.


Get a low k petrol i30.
Buster fin
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19 Feb 2013 2:58pm
Ian K, it might be considered bogan if not just narcissistic to suggest that a car is no good because it isn't 'whatever' enough. My old man thought I was crazy to want a Swift, all just because there weren't that many of them around. Well maybe not here, but they are a dime a dozen in Japan and have a great rep.

Mazda has come a long way in recent years and should also be a consideration for the intelligent consumer. The 3 wagon is a nice motor.

Unless you SUP- then you'd be better off searching for an old tank at the former Soviet military salvage yards.
Ian K
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19 Feb 2013 3:31pm
Buster fin said...
Ian K, it might be considered bogan if not just narcissistic to suggest that a car is no good because it isn't 'whatever' enough. My old man thought I was crazy to want a Swift, all just because there weren't that many of them around. Well maybe not here, but they are a dime a dozen in Japan and have a great rep.

Mazda has come a long way in recent years and should also be a consideration for the intelligent consumer. The 3 wagon is a nice motor.

Unless you SUP- then you'd be better off searching for an old tank at the former Soviet military salvage yards.


Fair go Buster, who are you calling an intelligent consumer? I didn't say Mazda build bad cars, just that the designer of the body work needs a good clip behind the ear. Curves upon curves, can't help himself. Look what he's done to a ute!




The ford is identical under the skin. Which one would you buy?




Mobydisc
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19 Feb 2013 6:31pm
How will these common rail diesels go in the long run?
doggie
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19 Feb 2013 3:36pm
Mobydisc said...
How will these common rail diesels go in the long run?


If the service is kept up they should be ok, never miss a service!
MDSXR6T
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19 Feb 2013 3:43pm
Buster fin said...
Ian K, it might be considered bogan if not just narcissistic to suggest that a car is no good because it isn't 'whatever' enough. My old man thought I was crazy to want a Swift, all just because there weren't that many of them around. Well maybe not here, but they are a dime a dozen in Japan and have a great rep


Swifts are great cars! One of the best days of my life involved the worlds greatest race track and a race prepared (cage, suspension, brakes etc) swift.

Very high quality cars. Apparently the new nissan is great as well.





Clarky
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19 Feb 2013 5:43pm
Yah, u should aye bud
gazza
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19 Feb 2013 5:18pm
firiebob said...
I don't know jack poop but I'd say you need a small 2nd hand diesel wizz bang like a hole in the head. What's the savings week to week if any over a modern petrol ?



Heaps.
We just bought a 2011 freelander 2 top of the range turbo diesel goes like the clappers.
Sits on the freeway doing 100 using 7lts per 100. The cars weighs almost 2 ton and is in constant 4x4
The wife old mer 4x4 petrol same weight a little more power would usually sit around 14-15 lts per hundred

She would use at least $90 worth of fuel a week now she only using $40
kiteboy dave
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19 Feb 2013 8:06pm
My workmate has one which he bought from new. It is bland and ordinary in every way and yet it does the job. Goes... ok. Looks... ok. built... ok. Reliability... ok.


Ian K
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19 Feb 2013 6:34pm
gazza said...
firiebob said...
I don't know jack poop but I'd say you need a small 2nd hand diesel wizz bang like a hole in the head. What's the savings week to week if any over a modern petrol ?



Heaps.
We just bought a 2011 freelander 2 top of the range turbo diesel goes like the clappers.
Sits on the freeway doing 100 using 7lts per 100. The cars weighs almost 2 ton and is in constant 4x4
The wife old mer 4x4 petrol same weight a little more power would usually sit around 14-15 lts per hundred

She would use at least $90 worth of fuel a week now she only using $40


But the discussion is on Cruzes. Easy to google this stuff, the petrol officially gets 7.0 litres per 100km, the diesel 5.6. Diesel is 5% more expensive than petrol so call the diesel 5.9. That's 1.1 litres per 100km saved, or 11 litres per thousand, doing 20,000 a year that's 220 litres, at $1.40 = $310 saved on fuel per year by going diesel. How much extra to buy and run a diesel? Go petrol, besides diesel is carcinogenic.


petermac33
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19 Feb 2013 6:40pm
Renault Megane 4.5 L/100kms

i30 ok

Sonata diesel 2010

Cherry are so cheap.
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
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19 Feb 2013 9:35pm
petermac33 said...
Cherry are so cheap.


I am finding as I get older I need to pay more?
Buster fin
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19 Feb 2013 9:42pm
Chery... casket on wheels.
gazza
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19 Feb 2013 10:05pm
Ian K said...
gazza said...
firiebob said...
I don't know jack poop but I'd say you need a small 2nd hand diesel wizz bang like a hole in the head. What's the savings week to week if any over a modern petrol ?



Heaps.
We just bought a 2011 freelander 2 top of the range turbo diesel goes like the clappers.
Sits on the freeway doing 100 using 7lts per 100. The cars weighs almost 2 ton and is in constant 4x4
The wife old mer 4x4 petrol same weight a little more power would usually sit around 14-15 lts per hundred

She would use at least $90 worth of fuel a week now she only using $40


But the discussion is on Cruzes. Easy to google this stuff, the petrol officially gets 7.0 litres per 100km, the diesel 5.6. Diesel is 5% more expensive than petrol so call the diesel 5.9. That's 1.1 litres per 100km saved, or 11 litres per thousand, doing 20,000 a year that's 220 litres, at $1.40 = $310 saved on fuel per year by going diesel. How much extra to buy and run a diesel? Go petrol, besides diesel is carcinogenic.





I Was just answer his question on the differance in saving on diesel and petrol and my experience which was a saving of $50 a week

Most new cars reqiure you to run them on premium unleaded which is generally dearer than diesel.

Diesel are way more reliable and cheaper to service.


firiebob
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19 Feb 2013 10:09pm
Ian K said...
gazza said...
firiebob said...
I don't know jack poop but I'd say you need a small 2nd hand diesel wizz bang like a hole in the head. What's the savings week to week if any over a modern petrol ?



Heaps.
We just bought a 2011 freelander 2 top of the range turbo diesel goes like the clappers.
Sits on the freeway doing 100 using 7lts per 100. The cars weighs almost 2 ton and is in constant 4x4
The wife old mer 4x4 petrol same weight a little more power would usually sit around 14-15 lts per hundred

She would use at least $90 worth of fuel a week now she only using $40


But the discussion is on Cruzes. Easy to google this stuff, the petrol officially gets 7.0 litres per 100km, the diesel 5.6. Diesel is 5% more expensive than petrol so call the diesel 5.9. That's 1.1 litres per 100km saved, or 11 litres per thousand, doing 20,000 a year that's 220 litres, at $1.40 = $310 saved on fuel per year by going diesel. How much extra to buy and run a diesel? Go petrol, besides diesel is carcinogenic.


This is what I meant, $310 a year is only $5.96 a week saving, but also factor in service costs
I drive a diesel Cruiser but we're talking small cars here.
myusernam
myusernam
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20 Feb 2013 11:54am
gazza said...
Ian K said...
gazza said...
firiebob said...
I don't know jack poop but I'd say you need a small 2nd hand diesel wizz bang like a hole in the head. What's the savings week to week if any over a modern petrol ?



Heaps.
We just bought a 2011 freelander 2 top of the range turbo diesel goes like the clappers.
Sits on the freeway doing 100 using 7lts per 100. The cars weighs almost 2 ton and is in constant 4x4
The wife old mer 4x4 petrol same weight a little more power would usually sit around 14-15 lts per hundred

She would use at least $90 worth of fuel a week now she only using $40


But the discussion is on Cruzes. Easy to google this stuff, the petrol officially gets 7.0 litres per 100km, the diesel 5.6. Diesel is 5% more expensive than petrol so call the diesel 5.9. That's 1.1 litres per 100km saved, or 11 litres per thousand, doing 20,000 a year that's 220 litres, at $1.40 = $310 saved on fuel per year by going diesel. How much extra to buy and run a diesel? Go petrol, besides diesel is carcinogenic.





I Was just answer his question on the differance in saving on diesel and petrol and my experience which was a saving of $50 a week

Most new cars reqiure you to run them on premium unleaded which is generally dearer than diesel.

Diesel are way more reliable and cheaper to service.





maybe the old tech, but the new common rail high performance ones are no more reliable/ long lived or cheaper IMHO. Probably heaps worse near the end of their life (pumps, injectors, high rail pressure etc)

thanks all for the replies. gonna give it the big miss and probably look at a mazda 3 or i30 or similar a bit later (new). Petrol mazda3 drive away no more to pay 20990 - mags, bluetooth etc etc. would be nicer if it was a bit more efficient at 7.9l 100k though.
FlickySpinny
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20 Feb 2013 2:04pm
Good decision.

We've got a 2011 Mazda2 we've had from new and it's a great car.

By comparison, a mate spent a grand more than we did on a second-hand Fiesta Diesel (which is basically the same car but with a diesel instead of a 1.5 petrol) and although it uses virtually no fuel, there is an issue with the fuel pump that is going to cost him an arm and a leg to fix. I wouldn't go near a small diesel in this country for that reason. In the UK and Europe they seem to be cheaper to fix / replace parts on... maybe because there are far more of them over there.
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20 Feb 2013 4:21pm
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