If everyone makes enough noise about it , Labor will seize the opportunity to slap a tax on it, to finance their ongoing ineptitude. Problem solved , J

stamp said...

make your own. it's cheaper too

It'll probably keep longer as well, like bread used to back in the day.

Shop bought bread lasts WAY longer than home made. Home made bread normally gets eaten so fast it doesn't matter.

I wouldn't be too concerned about the salt in bread - most people without kidney or heart disease handle salt really well and it's way easier to cut salt in other products. Sugar on the other hand.....

tmurray said...

Shop bought bread lasts WAY longer than home made. Home made bread normally gets eaten so fast it doesn't matter.

I wouldn't be too concerned about the salt in bread - most people without kidney or heart disease handle salt really well and it's way easier to cut salt in other products. Sugar on the other hand.....

how do you think you get heart disease?!

myusernam said...

stamp said...

make your own. it's cheaper too

the premade flour mixes are pretty high in salt also..

there is no need for premixed stuff, it's only bread: buy some flour, sugar, yeast, and salt (yes you need a little bit), put it in a bowl, mix the bejesus out of it, then cook the ****.
there are plenty of recipes on the net if you need to refine this method a little.

RDI is something like 2400mg and most bread is 450 - 600 mg per hundered grams.


On average, people in western countries eat 10-20 times the recommended intake of sodium, in the form of salt. The RDI is 920 - 2300mg of salt per day

myusernam said...

RDI is something like 2400mg and most bread is 450 - 600 mg per hundered grams.


On average, people in western countries eat 10-20 times the recommended intake of sodium, in the form of salt. The RDI is 920 - 2300mg of salt per day

That would be about 4 slices?
So yes it is too much but not if the rest of your diet is unprocessed foods.

I have way more salt than that, but drink heaps of beer to flush it out.
If you wee every 20mins the sodium is gone

salt was the enemy in the 80s and 90s. then it was sugar. then fat. then caffeine. carbs were the latest deadly killer. looks like we're back to salt again.

I don't really bother by sodium in the bread, but I must say that I am seriously annoyed at amount of salt added to popcorn at any cinema.
Excuse to force you to buy a drink - Cola- at same time is not enough since amount of salt is seriously toxic.

evlPanda said...

Mark _australia said...

You can eat whatever the hell you want as long as it is 99% fat free.
My kid's lollies are actually marked 99% fat free. Well duh.

Can't believe the people who fall for that

This. Dog **** is probably 99% fat free too. And fat doesn't make you fat anyway, which is the crux of the ads.

And people that think you can't lie a refrigerator down, or have to leave it standing in the off position for a while. I asked the guy that delivered a new one the other day "why?"

Lie a fridge down? because the oil runs out of the compressor sump.
Turn it off? because the seals dry out

myusernam said...

evlPanda said...

Mark _australia said...

You can eat whatever the hell you want as long as it is 99% fat free.
My kid's lollies are actually marked 99% fat free. Well duh.

Can't believe the people who fall for that

This. Dog **** is probably 99% fat free too. And fat doesn't make you fat anyway, which is the crux of the ads.

And people that think you can't lie a refrigerator down, or have to leave it standing in the off position for a while. I asked the guy that delivered a new one the other day "why?"

Lie a fridge down? because the oil runs out of the compressor sump.
Turn it off? because the seals dry out

Hmmm. Sounds legit.

I asked my dad about this, who's been servicing refrigerators since the 60's, and his dad before him since the 30's (I guess). They have always laid fridges on their side while transporting. I've helped countless times, and turned them on immediately at the customer's house. We're talking 80 years of probably 3 fridges transported each week, plus another brother doing the same, and they've never once had a problem. They call it a myth, not just because of the numbers but because they cut them open all the time too. Actually, refrigeration is a pretty interesting science.

I want to get to the bottom of this as much as more than anyone. Will report back on whether myth is busted or legit. I suspect it depends on the type of fridge (commercial/household)



edit: In the interim I found, amongst a zillion pages talking about oil, the following from another refrigerator mechanic:

drtom4444
May 20, 2011, 08:32 AM
It does no harm to lay down a refrigerator while moving it. I have been a refrigeration mechanic for 35 years and have done this many times and never had a problem. Today's compressors have springs and retainers to keep the compressor in the right position. Just stand it up and wait about 5 minutes and plug it in. Make sure the drain pan is setting correctly on the bottom of the unit and you are okay. This myth about not laying down a refrigerator started when compressors were first built and they had poor retainers inside. This has been corrected for about 70-80 years now but the myth refuses to die. You should never run a compressor that is more than 10% out of level, however. DrTom4444
www.askmehelpdesk.com/advice/t-577017.html

Bonus points: Why is a 'd' added when shortening "refrigerator" to "fridge"?

evlPanda said...

myusernam said...

evlPanda said...

Mark _australia said...

You can eat whatever the hell you want as long as it is 99% fat free.
My kid's lollies are actually marked 99% fat free. Well duh.

Can't believe the people who fall for that

This. Dog **** is probably 99% fat free too. And fat doesn't make you fat anyway, which is the crux of the ads.

And people that think you can't lie a refrigerator down, or have to leave it standing in the off position for a while. I asked the guy that delivered a new one the other day "why?"

Lie a fridge down? because the oil runs out of the compressor sump.
Turn it off? because the seals dry out

Hmmm. Sounds legit.

I asked my dad about this, who's been servicing refrigerators since the 60's, and his dad before him since the 30's (I guess). They have always laid fridges on their side while transporting. I've helped countless times, and turned them on immediately at the customer's house. We're talking 80 years of probably 3 fridges transported each week, plus another brother doing the same, and they've never once had a problem. They call it a myth, not just because of the numbers but because they cut them open all the time too. Actually, refrigeration is a pretty interesting science.

I want to get to the bottom of this as much as more than anyone. Will report back on whether myth is busted or legit. I suspect it depends on the type of fridge (commercial/household)



edit: In the interim I found, amongst a zillion pages talking about oil, the following from another refrigerator mechanic:

drtom4444
May 20, 2011, 08:32 AM
It does no harm to lay down a refrigerator while moving it. I have been a refrigeration mechanic for 35 years and have done this many times and never had a problem. Today's compressors have springs and retainers to keep the compressor in the right position. Just stand it up and wait about 5 minutes and plug it in. Make sure the drain pan is setting correctly on the bottom of the unit and you are okay. This myth about not laying down a refrigerator started when compressors were first built and they had poor retainers inside. This has been corrected for about 70-80 years now but the myth refuses to die. You should never run a compressor that is more than 10% out of level, however. DrTom4444
www.askmehelpdesk.com/advice/t-577017.html

Bonus points: Why is a 'd' added when shortening "refrigerator" to "fridge"?

If you left the d out frige you sound French and we cant have that can we?

Hey evlPanda, you owe me some vouchers for Wollies

I just laid my fridge down because you said it would be OK.

Guess what -

The milk spilt out of the carton
The butter smeared all over the door
The eggs all smashed
The lettuce got squashed by the juice

People - do not lay your fridges down. Keep them upright.