lol ... serious

Go to a good newsagent and get a copy of "The Dog and Lemon Guide", its quite a thick mag / book on car reviews on almost ALL makes and models... well worth a look.
Here is a link to their site..
dogandlemon.com/

The copy I have is an older copy and doesnt have that model in it.

thommo 000 said...

hello, a friend off mine is looking to purchase one of these, any feedback on the ssangyong make of vehicles would be appreciated, the one their looking at is the kyron turbo diesel 2006 model,

If your friend is looking at those he /she should have a look at these.
www.carsales.com.au/?utm_source=carpoint/used-car/GREAT%20WALL/V240/South%20Australia/csn7439677.aspx

pooman said...

U.G.L.Y.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Too many new cars look the same nowdays. A company like BMW does something different then all the other designers follow the trend.

I see a few Ssangyongs on the road around northern Sydney as there is a dealer here. Can't speak from personal experience as I've never driven one but I have not seen any broken down.

Just googled Ssangyong and it appears the company will possibly go bankrupt.

why doesnt your friend just flush their money down the sh!tter.
those cars are a pile of crep.

Mark _australia said...

Ignore the haters who immediately think it is sh!t just cos it is not Jap or Aussie

no, your right, its not Jap or Aussie... its Korean... Koreans eat dogs... they are also responsible for such travesties as the Hyundai Excel... Plus they have been voted ugliest car in just about every survey since they started building cars.

No I don't have one, it is just sooo helpful to the O.P when he asks an opinion and immediately the responses come out like "it is sh!t".

Well why is it sh!t? Wannabe and sufringboye could elaborate?

Is the Mercedes motor and gearbox sh!T? Are there resident faults with any mechanicals that will cost us all money?
Is the NVH rating unacceptable for a car in its price point?
As far as offroad goes, does it have low approach departure and rampover angles, does it not have enough wheel articulation, what?
"it is sh!t" is an unqualified response of no use to anyone.

I think it is an OK car for the price, I would not buy one if expecting to go 4WD'ing (including goind down the beach)

. I don't know answers to those questions nor do I care because I am not looking to buy a Koreanmobile

but much more valuable than a blanket statement that they are sh!t

thanks for your response everyone, i bought the book and checked the sites you suggested seems every-one is on the money with this one, when she asked me if i had heard of a ssangyongkyron i thought she meant some evil galactic warhorse..anyway the winner isss..........the.......Rav 4

cheers thanks again

My computer screen is a ssangyong but it dosent look like a car.

I think it is sh1t because when it was time to get pulled out of a bog all the toyota and nissian drivers would drive past and laugh your crappy korean sweatshop manafactured peice of europenis designed junk...Imagine going over corrigated unsealed roads it would demanafature it self to peices across the track.
You`d have to ask for optional high tensile bolts..........

If the car brand was that good im sure mining companies would use it.

Another valid point is if your on a long distance drive or in trouble you have a far greater scope for help sticking to a popular model car.
toyota is a good choice....plenty of parts plenty of mechanics which can use diagnostics and equiptment.
Most non australia cars require dia programs and elaborate machinery and jigs etc
This in the long term this will hamper the maintanence and any repair work apart from being in a city which had specialized equiptment to work on them.-In which you will pay for..
crv is a good choice ;-)

Almost all car companies are suffering massive losses so that is nothing to go by. The CRV are nice but I put them in the same boat as outlander's (which I like)- if you are regularly going on unsealed/poor roads the suspension is just too light and the x-trail or rav would be a better choice. On the road though I would prefer the crv or outlander.

Just looked at price of 06 Kyron's, pretty costly similar money to new CRV or Grand Vitara.

Marhindrah's are Indian motor gee-gee company, and the big big Indian money owns Rover also landrover etc.
KIA and i admit stands for Krap Imported Australia, don't i know it, good purchase price
and that's about it. 2002 model Carnival 75,000k's to 2006 and motor had major malfunction, 3 mths after warranty ran out. Faced with $6.000 repair I got pretty angry [not my usual style], However they ended coming good and repairs were carried out by them. Problem caused by head gasket extremely thin. Modification, thicker gasket now done on production line. Took 3 mths to get back on road.
Drove 1000k,s and checked the radiator water , only to find it full of thick oil gunk
again. Contacted repair dealer [interstate] and they sail take to nearest dealer. That would be Pt Agutta. So he did work on it all 8hr day and charged me $300 for cleaning work to internals of engine. Cash before return of vehicle.
Cause was not draining all heater lines in rear of passenger compartment when they carried out repairs to engine, leaving breakdown contaminants insitu. All Kia mechanics seem to be Asiatic with real good English comprehension skills << JOKE !!
Ok so got back to interstate motor repairer for refund, no go said they didn't authorize,so even after Consumer protection advise just $300 outa pocket, end of story.
Trick i discovered here, if faced with this gooy mess in radiator,drive till motor warms up them empty radiator expansion bottle and clean, replace and do again until all oil mix is removed, half a dozen times.
Little things that make then cheaper, no radiator drain taps, no online fuel filter,
only filter on fuel pump imbeded in fuel tank. Any problem $400 new fuel pump , thank you very much. All modern cars will soon be built like this.
I could rabbit on, with disparaging remarks, but generally, they are only a city type transport, get to country roads and problems multiply. I do it mostly in the dirt. so now with 110.000 k's . I dont care !!
Good points , I can sleep inside, they make a reasonable tow machine, and the driving position is upright similar to truck seating, allowing my arthritic body to get in and out fairly easy and the drive position is favorable. Maintenance program costs are very expensive if you follow book.
So KIA, approach with caution , don't expect too much, but like the early Jap stuff , they will improve , I hope.

Mark _australia said...

^^^
Suppose you also think Mercedes makes sh!t motors and gearboxes

Yes I do , just ask me why

mkseven said...

KIA that is just par for the course, when I was working for a dealer there were alot of them that sat in workshop for months waiting for new engines/parts.

Improvement is questionable. They get out what they put in- the jap companies had to improve, Hyundai recently spent more than any other company in r&d and it shows in their current models.

I currently work for Chellingworth motors(Porsche,Bentley,Chrysler) and have worked with such brands as Hyundai, Mitsubishi, Daewoo, VW, Sangyong Musso, Nissan, Ford, Toyota, Mazda ect and my Oldies who have been Toyota poeple all their lives bought a Hyundai i30 2.0 2007 and I think the build quality is brilliant compared to Corrolla of the same year, on the Sangyong debate DO NOT TOUCH THEM!!

mkseven said...

Agree wholeheartedly doggie, the new Hyundai's are good. I did mean that for companies to improve they need to invest in their product.

The whole problem with the small korean companys, small automotive in general is that they stuggle to support the product after the car is sold to the consumer. new cars that sit in panel shops and mechanical repair shops ect waiting for parts. Its not just the koreans that do it, chrysler are hopless with parts and it kills the actual cars as people cant get spares for them. In saying this the buyer must be aware of what they are buying, no use crying ova spilt milk ect and thommo was right for checking this out if not sure himself.