chrispychru said...so carantoc when the mines find out you have large gas supplies under your house and the government say yeh go forth and dig it up, what will you do? open the gates and say go for it? dont laugh they are doing it in sydney

Not at all. I think Mobyd put it well. Freehold may not automatically entitle you to the mineral wealth below ground, but it should allow you to have the say over who traverses over the surface and how they affect the surface, either directly or indirectly.
I'll open the gates and say go for it if they can prove they will benefit both myself, the environment and society. I kinda like the lights coming on when I flick a switch and my car able to take my children to school.
My point was more that the argument seems to be mining big dirty business against poor downtrodden socially responsible farmer, with the average Australian being screwed over by miners whilst the farmer works 26 hours a day to put bread on my table.
I don't see it quite as black and white as that. Farming has not done much more for the well being of Australia than mining has. Neither has a good environmental or social record, both have created wealth.
I certainly don't see one as perfect and the other corrupt. I don't see much difference between the two in fact. I rate them as pretty even in performance.
And I would just mention that I own a farm and get paid by miners, so I have nothing but an interest in promoting both, but end of the day both industries can do an awful lot better and should be supporting each other, not publically slagging each other off.
And - in reference to the original point, yes short sighted political gain has resulted in (and is still causing) a massive loss of value that either industry could be delivering. But they should sit down and sort it out together for the benfit of both and the benefit of Australia, not arguing amongst themselves.