triple surface hanglider advancement flow on ...[}:)]
my name is on the moyes world champion hanglider the csx and prefixed part there of ..
and to go further with sail design which can help across the board for all wind sports ..lower wetted area is our only chance and to lower camber for lower incidence in the reflex for higher aspect ratios .. with more percentage of laminar flow .. as wind surfers are now getting to lower the boundry layer profile which lowers the gliders over all profile so a smaller glider can do the job of a larger glider with higher wing loading but still foot launchable and landable and higher reynolds numbers 3,000,000 so inertia is more prevelent than viscosity .. ...so up to now doulble surface has gone as far as it can useing a clark'y' type profile aerofoil and now to lower camber further the bottom surface now has to push against the high pressure flow where as up to now it gives with the flow under tension like a yatch sail so to have a convex undersurface it has to have a system similer to a car tyre and push against the airflow and yet hold its ground as well as present it self smooth enough for laminar flow ..skeatesy

hmmmm .. i take 5 years just to get one point of lift drag ratio in developement and since the 1970's we have gone from a l/d of 5 to only 15 but its cost every cent of effort so to get the next point is realy costing as gliders now cost over 10grand .. so if any one can come up with an extension to the present formula it is most welcome and we chech every single advancement in anything space under water land ect just to see if some back yard gye has done it . or come up with something we can modify .. skeatesy . ..there is also some properganda needed as well ..people just dont go out and bye something so its got to be a sell ..or you die .. also suspension in gliders could come ..i developed a suspension glider useing motorcycle suspension units instead of useing leading edge flex in the cross bars and that could still solve tention problems and get higher tention billows with out exotic materials .. and reflex and anheadral suspension so the rear of the sail stays flat in a turn and doesnt have any imperceptable divergents so less roach in the tips is possible and tracks straight instead of crabbing which hangliders do at the moment because they still are a little divergent ..the glider i designed here with a twi keel to do all of this was published in australian flight magazine as it was sensational to fly but would people bye it ..thats where convention still rules at the end of the day .. skeatesy






our only enermy in hangliding is the 130 degree nose spar swivel angle rule and if you can get around that we can get realy high lift drag ratios ...bit like jumbo jets not allowed to break the speed of sound so there technology is stiffled by the sonic boom and hangliders go divergent if the nose angle goes over 130 degree angle even if you put a tail on it ..which is a new law in aerodynamics we only just discoverd and even boeing has to look at this rule because it has ossilation in the wings because of it .. cannards stop it but tail slide so you realy need triple tandem wings a cannard and tail together .. or a stagger wing biplane to dampen the ossilations so the tail will work ..no matter how much incidence and surface area you use if you go over 130 degres it will go divergent ..its to do with the luffing effect moving faster forward than the glider like the crack of a whip and it has to break the speed of sound to stop incoming luffing detrament to flight ..very new physics here ..if the nose angle is too wide the luffing effect goes too slow and sideways instead of forward to do its job and 130 degrees is the slowest sideways attack the luffing motion can handle ..less than this is ok and the luffing action accelerates faster than the glider goes forward and creates a lift centroid effect for the tail incidence to fulcrum off ahead of the c/g ..if it arrives behind the c/g its divergent ..aircraft must crack ahead of the c/g to be stable but if they crack behind the c/g there divergent and the tail wont work ..this has happened to the jsf and rapter usa fighter aircraft and crack the ailerons behind the c/g and so are grounded but the eropean eruofighter has a cannard and deals with it but it too needs a tail as well realy as there have been crashes ..hangliders realy have given us a whole new aerodynamics we over looked and must comply with . the concord and vulcan bomber got it right and cracked ahead of the c/g ..hangliders just flog out and need new cloth but its all there realy ...skeatesy

yep thanks im old enough now to see sence going on 60 ..seen every thing and about to go out so i want to leave behind every thing i can even the unsence as well as it all helps ....but also when we age we also get like crocodiles and snap snap snap but i believe i cant afford not to listen even if im about to hold out ..but thanks at least i last an extra day here compaired to other sites i get the feeeling we cant realy create without the looni side as well ..even isaac neuton was an astrologer which is herisy in science ..thanks any way ..

Great job skeateasy1! Love your design. Fractal geek poetry in motion. Can I enrol as a team pilot?

skeatesy1 said...

sorry my test pilots usealy get killed and thats my reputation ..moyes is not far behind and the authoritys are sick of it so we use a wind truck and then do it our selves but if you just happen to come along we couldnt realy say no ... i just did a bell kite wind cart on the land yatchs section i recon its got something going for it ...what i realy do though and im not joking i employ a 'straight' man who does not fall for my ideas and useualy he can kick it ..but then i come back with how it realy got to be ..i usealy get things upside down ..i invented shocks in the cross bars and put the damping on the way out instead of under compression on the way in and it wobbled all over the place then i reversed it so the damping was on the way in compression and easy on the way out so the inside wing turning was hard to compress in and billow and the out side wing in the turn had a flick because there was no damping on the way out of the shocks and turning was understood from that day on . i put the shocks in the cross bars and i stopped the out leading edges from flexing so the cross bars controlled the billow and this time it work like a rolls royce ..beautifull ..so if my ideas only get a glimps of the future at least one man did his thing ..i just got banned on a yatching forum as a wako ..so i have lasted here and i will be moderation compaired how i used to be ..but firmer ..i realy think as people see and think for them selves the better manufacturers might get back to work again ..the police in canberra wont even let you carry an umberalla let alone materials to build model kites ect ..so its almost impossible to even experiment these days so the net is fantastic if you in a country where you can get ahead with out stupid police hovering around stifaling us ..thanks for reading me and a bit of a tussell never hurt anyone ay ..skeatesy

A bit of grammar such as paragraphs, full stops, capitalisation and so forth are rules that make text a bit more readable and understandable. Why not try to use a few of the standards of the English language to put your point across more clearly?

Right now its a slab of text that makes no sense at all without intense reading and concentration.

skeatesy1 said...

it only makes sence if you failed english at school .. but it needs concentration ..thats whats lacking ..every one wants every one else to do it for them .. but ill take the work and you take the fun ..cant loose there ..

Sorry, that made no sense either. Improve the spelling and the grammar and you may start to make sense.

We have spell check and even grammar checks available in most word processors. Why not take advantage of them? They are not perfect but at least they get most of it right most of the time.

he he he ..in australia no but i heard kodac had one in the basment of there store in new york of all places ..one thing about america ..just get on with it and make money with it some one will see what its takes .. queensland australia is about the only place around here you can still do things and get ahead ..the further south you get here the more it stinks of nepitizm and no authority .. ..i just beat rybka again the worlds strongest chess computer but its getting harder by the moment as it is programmed to up date my moves as i am the best and no one beats it like i do i flog it and desimate it but its interesting that it has nuetralized all my moves ..no one or computer has done this before ..so why am i bringing this up ..because computers aree getting real fantastic at things and we have to keep up to plan .. if you know what i mean ..

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Classic first posting.

Replies just beat the Swedish backpacker selling her van thread....Gold Jerry, Gold.

This all isn't even half making the sense that it should be. I've no doubt this is possibly possible.

Green thumbs for all.

And skeatesy, you desperately need this:
http://www.amazon.com/Non-Designers-Design-Book-The-Edition/dp/0321534042/ref=zg_bs_1829_3

Fark my screen gone bad, images are all weird and corrupt... maybe I need to upgrade.

thanks for your interest ...last idea for a unlimited hanglider then i go ..see you alll in another world dimension place heaven or what ever comes as i am banned here and every where ...

^^^ What does that mean?

(aside from "I've been skipping my meds again")

But I am genuinely curious!

a nimbus sail plane with folding wings to act as a sail then when the plane gets to ternimal velocity it folds the wings back down and takes off to catc

h a thermal ..or get towed up by a landyatch ..skeatesy1

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Just had a seizure from all the colours in this thread.......