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bored
bored
WA
43 posts
WA, 43 posts
3 Aug 2010 11:14pm
im 18 , don't know politics and yet they are forceing me to vote, so i leave it up to those smarter and wiser than me, who do I vote for
(i can no longer do a simple donkey vote due to the fact its now all elctronic)
FormulaNova
FormulaNova
WA
15105 posts
WA, 15105 posts
4 Aug 2010 6:01am
bored said...
(i can no longer do a simple donkey vote due to the fact its now all elctronic)


Really? Now that is becoming undemocratic!

Surely it is your right to vote for no one. In effect, if you don't know or care about politics you can be just as useful by not voting.

So, no paper forms to fill out this time?
TrevNewman
TrevNewman
VIC
237 posts
VIC, 237 posts
4 Aug 2010 10:03am
Like the ad says "vote for the Greens in the senate"
maxm
maxm
NSW
864 posts
NSW, 864 posts
4 Aug 2010 10:12am
FormulaNova said...

So, no paper forms to fill out this time?


I think what the bored one is referring to is that the preferences are pre-lodged. If you just put a number 1 on the ticket, you'll vote according to that candidate/parties preferences. But it's still a paper ticket that you are filling out.

Bored... you could do what my mum always claims to do - put a big line across the paper and stick it in the box.
j murray
j murray
SA
947 posts
SA, 947 posts
4 Aug 2010 10:55am
^^^^
Maxm......how many times doe's your mum vote?

she seems to be in every box that I have ever scrutinized
pepe47
pepe47
WA
1382 posts
WA, 1382 posts
4 Aug 2010 10:27am
bored said...

im 18 , don't know politics and yet they are forceing me to vote, so i leave it up to those smarter and wiser than me, who do I vote for
(i can no longer do a simple donkey vote due to the fact its now all elctronic)


Doesnt really matter who you vote for, you'll end up with a politician
deXtrous
deXtrous
NSW
451 posts
NSW, 451 posts
4 Aug 2010 12:44pm
It's all about secular party!

Only just found out about this party and they are getting my tick of approval.
We stand for:

* A woman's right to choose an abortion
* Voluntary euthanasia
* The right to die
* Embryonic stem cell research
* Drug harm minimalisation

We stand against:

* Censorship
* Religious indoctrination of minors
* Counter-productive "anti-terror" restrictions on civil liberties


Personal freedoms should be based on modern secular humanist principles. Only secularism can guarantee religious freedom, and we endorse this freedom. However those who adhere to faith-based morality frequently seek to impose their religious views on the entire population. This occurs in policies concerning areas such as abortion, voluntary euthanasia, stem cell research, drug policy and gay rights.

The Secular Party believes in equal human rights. Same-sex couples should enjoy the same rights and privileges as heterosexual couples, in inheritance, and for all ceremonial, financial, legal and medical purposes. Our policies on issues of high moral content, such as abortion and voluntary euthanasia, favour freedom of choice, and are based on rational assessment of the relevant issues.


The Secular Party supports the right to access legal information and entertainment. Internet censorship is a tool commonly used by tyrannical regimes. It is hypocritical for Australia to introduce a broad internet censorship scheme which is in principle no different from an authoritarian one.

Under current laws, the Australian Communications and Media Authority may investigate and fine websites hosted in Australia if they contain illegal material; we believe that this is an appropriate method of regulating internet content. Given the technical and ethical concerns with a broad filtering of all internet content, the Secular Party is opposed to any kind of internet filter


We believe in:

* Equal opportunity for all children
* Universal secular education
* Compulsory sex and drug education
* Anti-discrimination and anti-homophobia education
* Harm minimisation for drug users
* Crime prevention, not large prison populations
* Proper funding for our health system
* Fair wages and conditions
* Lower taxes and a broader tax base
* Properly funded social security and pensions
* A secular republic with an Australian head of state


myusernam
myusernam
QLD
6159 posts
QLD, 6159 posts
4 Aug 2010 1:12pm
you can always go the 'donkey' vote.
The marijuana party
the greens (look where it got them)
fishing party etc

my favourite - local election in NT. voted for the chick because she was a sort and had nice tits.
Poida
Poida
WA
1922 posts
WA, 1922 posts
4 Aug 2010 12:47pm
deXtrous said...

It's all about secular party!

Only just found out about this party and they are getting my tick of approval.
We stand for:

* A woman's right to choose an abortion
* Voluntary euthanasia
* The right to die
* Embryonic stem cell research
* Drug harm minimalisation

We stand against:

* Censorship
* Religious indoctrination of minors
* Counter-productive "anti-terror" restrictions on civil liberties







good to see someone stand up on these issues
DUDE
DUDE
NSW
1132 posts
NSW, 1132 posts
4 Aug 2010 3:15pm
Dumb question,i know,but what would happen if no one turned up to vote?.

Yes i know that it would never happen,i understand that non voters would be fined,,but what would happen??
and does anyone know if the Judean Peoples Front is in the running this year?
doggie
doggie
WA
15849 posts
WA, 15849 posts
4 Aug 2010 1:52pm
dude said...

Dumb question,i know,but what would happen if no one turned up to vote?.

Yes i know that it would never happen,i understand that non voters would be fined,,but what would happen??
and does anyone know if the Judean Peoples Front is in the running this year?


Guess we would be stuck with same wankers, not a good outlook really
mineral1
mineral1
WA
4564 posts
WA, 4564 posts
4 Aug 2010 4:03pm
Bored, if you want t make a difference, then vote. Its only a small difference maybe, but some elected have actually gone through to Parliament as a rep with only a one or two vote majority.
If you don’t care who, then just do what ever when your at the polling booth. If its a dud vote, it wont count and old XYZ currently in the seat wont know one way or the other, and neither will the others trying to contest the seat.
the only draw back with this is, later on down the track when a policy shift impacts to your dislike, you have nobody else to blame but yourself for not voting either way.
You will have to wait until the next election to boot him/her out.
Last thing to do is listen to any media hype in the last few weeks. Its slanted towards bullcrap 99%
Its the track record over the last few years that will count either way that needs to be observed.
Me, I know who I will vote for already, I switch off to media soon as they announce an election.
Some of those in the media would convince voters to vote in a seagull if given long enough to mount a campaign
maxm
maxm
NSW
864 posts
NSW, 864 posts
4 Aug 2010 6:27pm
^^^^

Michael Moore listed fig trees as candidates for the US congress elections one time.

Michael Moore

First of all, this Ficus will never vote to put the U.S. into any sort of war or invade a country. This Ficus will never try to block a woman’s right to choose what to do with her own body. This Ficus will not cause any harm to the environment. In fact, just the opposite, this Ficus does something that no politician can do: it creates photosynthesis, so, you know, it gives us oxygen. I mean, this is the beauty of this plant, that it actually is doing something that allows us to live, and I don’t think you can say that about a single member of Congress.


Vote Ficus!
kiteboy dave
kiteboy dave
QLD
6525 posts
QLD, 6525 posts
4 Aug 2010 7:17pm
Hey... a party that thinks like I do. (Yes, this is really long, just skip if you're not interested.. )

Policy details of the Secular Party
Education

The Secular Party recognises the economic and social importance of education and its role in the promotion of universal secular values and social harmony. The Secular Party supports the 19th century notion that education be "universal, secular and free". In recent decades, this principle has been disregarded, and there has been a massive shift in funding towards private schools. Privilege has been entrenched and indoctrination encouraged. The seeds of future divisiveness and sectarianism have been sown. We seek to reverse these trends.

The Secular Party recognises the public good of public education. This is best provided by high quality and inclusive government schools, incorporating teaching based on universal values and principles.

It is the policy of the Secular Party that the current system of state funding for private schools be replaced by a tax rebate for private school expenses. The maximum rebate shall be determined on the basis of the marginal cost of educating a child in the public system. The rebate shall not apply to any expenses for schools that exhibit a bias in favour of any religion.

The Secular Party also supports an adequately funded tertiary education sector. The future economic health of the country depends upon investment in education.
Religion in schools

It is the policy of the Secular Party that Religious Instruction in schools be replaced with studies of comparative religion and ethics. It is also the policy of the Secular Party that the National School Chaplaincy Program be replaced with a program supporting qualified counsellors in schools.
Tax exemptions for religion

Religious institutions receive significant advantages in terms of tax exemptions and benefits. At the same time these institutions are largely unaccountable for their receipt and distribution of funds. The policy of the Secular Party is to end these religious tax exemptions and subsidies. This will benefit the average taxpayer and a level playing field will be provided for all charities.

The Secular Party supports the setting up of a Charities Commission to supervise the appropriate administration of not-for-profit organisations. The Secular Party supports the proposal that a public benefit test be applied as a qualification for the granting of tax exemptions for religious organisations. The Secular Party proposes that the "advancement of religion" is not of itself sufficient to warrant exemptions under the definition of charitable purpose or public benefit.
Oaths and prayers

Oaths sworn in association with a chosen religious book have legal standing in Australia. Prayers to a particular deity are used to open parliaments and religious references are made on other ceremonial occasions. The veracity of such oaths and the solemnity of such occasions are not enhanced by such references.

The Secular Party believes that all citizens should be bound by the same undertaking, irrespective of their religion or non-religion, and that ceremonial references to religious beings are anachronistic, ethnocentric and divisive. It is our policy therefore that affirmations be taken, following which a religious oath may also be sworn upon request. On ceremonial occasions it is our policy that these entail pledges of loyalty to principles, and to the people of Australia.
Parliamentary prayers

Adapting a proposal by Dr Steven Tudor and Dr Gonzalo Villalta Puig of La Trobe University, it is the policy of the Secular Party that parliamentary prayers be replaced by the following oath, followed by a minute's silence:

"All stand. We, the members of this House, humbly recognise the solemn responsibility placed upon us by the sovereign people of Australia to work together for the peace, order and good government of this Commonwealth, and we resolve to perform our duty with honour and integrity. I now ask all members to remain standing and, in silence, to reflect on our responsibilities to the people of Australia."
Citizenship pledge

To ensure that new Australian citizens understand that their primary loyalty must be to Australia and its values, not their religion, it is the policy of the Secular Party that there be a uniform Citizenship Pledge, to be used at citizenship ceremonies, as follows:

"From this time forward, I pledge my loyalty to Australia and its people, whose democratic beliefs I share, whose rights, liberties and values I respect, and whose laws I will uphold and obey."

NB: Compared with the existing Pledge, the word "values" is inserted, and the optional words "under God" are deleted.
Food labelling for religious purposes

Some religious groups would like to see the introduction of religious food certification as part of food labelling standards. It is not the role of the state to authorise standards that are based on arbitrary religious doctrines and which have no relation to public health. The Secular Party is opposed to the introduction of any such standards.
Complementary and alternative medicines

Australians spend more money on complementary medicines and therapies than they do on conventional evidence-based medicine. Despite this, there is little or no regulation of such products and treatments. They can be registered or listed with the Therapeutic Goods Administration, but if considered "low risk", the TGA allows such listing without any form of efficacy testing.

Consumers can thus easily be misled by scam therapies that are implausible or defy logic, reason or scientific principles. It is the policy of the Secular Party that the regulatory regime for complementary medicine be tightened with the introduction of evidence-based criteria for registration or listing, and that Medicare rebates not apply to alternative therapies that have not passed tests for safety and efficacy.
Marriage

The Secular Party believes in equality and that the stipulation that marriage must be between a man and a woman discriminates against same-sex couples. The Secular Party also believes that civil marriages and the celebrants who perform them should have equal status with religious marriages and celebrants. It is therefore the policy of the Secular Party that all those authorised to solemnise marriages do so with reference to the fact that "marriage is a voluntary union entered into for life by two people to the exclusion of all others". It is also our policy that civil celebrants should have a status equal to ministers of religion in relation to witnessing statutory declarations, and in relation to GST exemption.
Personal freedoms
Personal freedoms should be based on modern secular humanist principles. Only secularism can guarantee religious freedom, and we endorse this freedom. However those who adhere to faith-based morality frequently seek to impose their religious views on the entire population. This occurs in policies concerning areas such as abortion, voluntary euthanasia, stem cell research, drug policy and gay rights.

The Secular Party believes in equal human rights. Same-sex couples should enjoy the same rights and privileges as heterosexual couples, in inheritance, and for all ceremonial, financial, legal and medical purposes. Our policies on issues of high moral content, such as abortion and voluntary euthanasia, favour freedom of choice, and are based on rational assessment of the relevant issues.
Civil rights

The rights of citizens have been curtailed as a result of the "war on terror". There is a risk that these new laws will produce greater alienation amongst target groups. Citizens therefore need the protection of legislation that protects human rights. The Secular Party endorses and supports a proposed Bill of Rights Act. The purpose of this act is to formalise in Australia rights that have already been agreed to in international treaties that Australia has signed and ratified.
Women's rights

The Secular Party recognises that equality between men and women is a basic human right. The Secular Party also recognises that equality between men and women is a part of the Australian Values Statement that all migrants to Australia agree to respect. We propose that certain cultural and religious practices that specifically and significantly limit the rights and freedoms of women in Australia be prohibited. This includes situations where women are forced or coerced into wearing garments such as burqas, and where the freedom of movement of women is limited or restricted.
Religious attire

The Secular Party believes that ideally, expression of religious belief should be a private matter for adults. However we endorse the right of adult individuals to wear clothing of their choice.

The Secular Party supports a ban on identity hiding-garments or other items, including burqas and motorcycle helmets, in public places where there are legitimate security and/or safety concerns, or where personal identification is required. The Secular Party supports the right of relevant officials to request that such items be removed.

The Secular Party believes that the religious indoctrination of children in schools violates the rights of the child. The requirement, whether by parents or schools, that children wear religious attire, is a form of indoctrination. The Secular Party therefore opposes this practice. It is the policy of the Secular Party that all forms of religious attire be prohibited in all schools.
Anti-discrimination laws

Anti-discrimination laws that have been enacted in Australia make exceptions on the grounds of religion. The Secular Party sees it as unjust that religious groups can legally discriminate against others. We propose that these loopholes be removed from anti-discrimination laws.
One law for all

The rule of law is best upheld and universal human rights are best protected by having laws that apply equally to all citizens, irrespective of culture or religion. Any legal recognition of Islamic Sharia law or Aboriginal traditional law is a violation of this principle. It is therefore the policy of the Secular Party that all laws be enacted such that they apply equally to all citizens.
Religious organisations and public health

Hospitals and medical services that are owned by religious organisations often display religious paraphernalia and may be inclined to favour medical practices that are influenced by religious doctrine. The Secular Party believes that such institutions that are in receipt of public money should not exhibit bias in favour of any religion. It is the policy of the Secular Party that such organisations be required to ensure that no such bias exists.
Censorship
The Secular Party supports the right to access legal information and entertainment. Internet censorship is a tool commonly used by tyrannical regimes. It is hypocritical for Australia to introduce a broad internet censorship scheme which is in principle no different from an authoritarian one.

Under current laws, the Australian Communications and Media Authority may investigate and fine websites hosted in Australia if they contain illegal material; we believe that this is an appropriate method of regulating internet content. Given the technical and ethical concerns with a broad filtering of all internet content, the Secular Party is opposed to any kind of internet filter.
Economic policy

The Secular Party stands for the use of balanced judgement in economics, rather than any ideology. We recognise the general need for balanced budgets, but do not accept free market fundamentalism. In cases of market failure, government intervention is required. We recognise that Australia's role as a major resource exporter is a significant factor in determining Australia's economic future.
Resource rent tax

Given the finite nature of global resources, and with increased demand from countries such as China, we expect that exports of Australian resources will continue to grow strongly. In this situation, commodity prices will continue to exceed mining production costs, by an increasing margin. To give all Australians, the collective owners of the country’s mineral wealth, an equitable share in the proceeds of future resource sales, the Secular Party supports the concept of a tax on excessive profits from the mining of non-renewable resources.
Republic

The Secular Party recognises that monarchies embody the concept of hereditary privilege, and that this is incompatible with the principle of equal human rights. The British monarch is also head of the Church of England. Having the monarch as the Australian Head of State is thus a violation of the basic secular principle of separation of church and state. It is therefore the policy of the Secular Party that Australia become a republic, with an Australian head of state.

The Secular Party recognises that there are many other motivations for a republic, including that the people of Australia be ultimately sovereign and the source of any authority in government.
Defence

Strategic defence planning, as indicated by scheduled purchase of military equipment for the army, navy and air force, appears to assume that the future use of the Australian Defence Force will be for long-range external purposes in association with the United States. The Secular Party acknowledges the need for alliances, but does not accept that these should predetermine our entire defence strategy. We therefore support restructure of our defence capabilities in favour of greater self-reliance.
International law

The Secular Party recognises that civilisation is sustained by the rule of law. Globally, we support the enhancement of the International Criminal Court as a means of dealing with problems, rather than arbitrary superpower intervention. We support the development of international corporate law as a means of addressing adverse transnational corporate behaviour.
International secularism

We recognise that secularism is a principle that has wide application in solving a number of global issues. We support the concept of comprehensive secularism, (as defined by the International Humanist and Ethical Union) which entails not only impartiality between religions and the separation of religion from state institutions, but also the intervention, where necessary, to protect human rights from violation by religious assertions and injunctions.
Israel-Palestine

The Secular Party is opposed to theocracies, whether Christian, Islamic or Judaic. A state that preserves privileges to a particular religious, ethnic or national group violates secular principles and universal human rights. The Secular Party advocates that the only possible long-term solution is one in which all citizens have equal rights.
Global warming

We recognise global warming as a significant and dire threat to global civilisation. To address the problem, global carbon dioxide emissions must be reduced dramatically. Existing "cap and trade" proposals may not achieve anything like the magnitude of reduction required. They may therefore be a counterproductive diversion. The required emission reductions can best be achieved by the global cessation of emissions from coal-fired electricity generation. This requires the phased introduction of a carbon tax, nationally and internationally.

The cost of investment in alternative energy production will be at least a hundred billion dollars in Australia alone. This can be financed from revenue from the carbonl tax. To facilitate the introduction of this tax internationally, and to ease the transition for Australian industry, the Secular Party proposes an International Coal Tax to be levied on coal exports, in conjunction with other coal exporters. Revenue from the tax would be distributed domestically and internationally to assist structural adjustment and provide welfare compensation.

All forms of alternative base-load energy production will need to be utilised, including geothermal, tidal and nuclear. Given Australia's prominence in the world supply of uranium, the Secular Party considers that it is Australia's responsibility, and to our advantage, to participate in all stages of the nuclear fuel cycle, including power generation and waste disposal.
Law and order

The Secular Party recognises the need for incarceration to prevent harm, to foster reform and as a deterrent. Revenge should not be a motivation in punishment. The Secular Party advocates policies that stress rehabilitation, crime prevention and harm minimisation.
Medical research

The Secular Party endorses all medical research, with appropriate ethical oversight, that benefits humanity. This should not be limited by misguided or religiously inspired "sanctity of life" prohibitions. We do not support research involving animals for purposes such as the development of cosmetics.
Health

The Secular Party recognises the need for health services to be accessible and affordable for all citizens, including dental care and prescription medicines. We recognise that multiple funding streams, together with the burden of oversight means that private health insurance, and particularly public subsidies for private health care, are an additional inefficient burden, and should be removed.

We further recognise cost shifting and perverse incentives through the tension between State and Federal Governments as a major problem in providing adequate funding, necessitating thorough reform of Federal-State health arrangements.
Intellectual property

The Secular Party recognises that intellectual property rights protect the interests of creators and provide incentives for innovation; however, property rights should not be derived from non-creative findings. Indigenous communities should maintain ownership of innovations derived from their custodial knowledge, and patents derived from the human genome - the custodial property of us all - should be limited.

Recognising that such rights are a reciprocal arrangement, and the need for ideas to return to the public domain, our policy is that copyright not be extended to more than 50 years after the author's or creator's death (as compared to the current 70 years).

Intellectual property rights should not subvert long-held understandings about what "ownership" means - they should not limit an owner's freedom to use and copy purchased items on a continued, private and non-commercial basis.

The Free Trade Agreement with the USA is noted to have damaged an equitable property rights approach; we therefore support the renegotiation of the Free Trade Agreement and limitation of its inequitable consequences.
Welfare

The Secular Party recognises that those who have become marginalised in society, such as drug users, criminals and the mentally ill, need support and fair treatment. Our view is that unwarranted cuts to services, that push responsibilities back to carers or others, merely create further problems. Our policy is to provide incentives for individuals and companies to support individuals in need.

The Secular Party recognises the crisis in housing affordability. We recognise the need for Government intervention, including the need for the provision of public housing.
Children

The Secular Party believes that the UN International Convention on the Rights of the Child should be enshrined in legislation so that children receive fair and equitable treatment, without being taken advantage of or being abused. We endorse institutions that support and educate parents in parenting issues including preschools, schools and other organisations that support the family.
Immigration and population
Global population is a significant issue in dealing with many environmental problems. Australia is a dry but relatively rich country, and has a low population compared with our neighbours. Australia's resource wealth will enable us to maintain a privileged position in the global community. The Secular Party is opposed to policies that encourage a higher birth rate. It is the policy of the Secular Party to abolish the baby bonus.

The Secular Party deplores xenophobic attempts to demonise refugees and asylum seekers. We support continuation of an immigration program that is both economically beneficial and environmentally sustainable, and which provides sufficient allowance for our humanitarian obligations. We note that migrants to Australia must agree to respect certain values, including the equality of men and women, as part of the Australian Values Statement in the immigration application form. It is the policy of the Secular Party to consider means by which migrants may be required to respect these values that they have already agreed to.
ginger pom
ginger pom
VIC
1746 posts
VIC, 1746 posts
4 Aug 2010 7:25pm
Cantorac and I can't vote so vote secular for us...

Having to vote is a pain in the ass, but not being able to vote in the country that you live, pay taxes, work and obey laws in does make you feel somewhat disenfranchised...
japie
japie
NSW
7146 posts
NSW, 7146 posts
4 Aug 2010 8:17pm
I cannot vote either, but then I never have anywhere which is why I do not wade into political debate!

It is a two horse race and both horses belong to the same owner. The system is dysfunctional and there is no such thing as democracy
nick0
nick0
NSW
510 posts
NSW, 510 posts
4 Aug 2010 8:25pm
mabey vote for the REAL JULIA .. because up untill now u would have been voteing for the fake julia..
GO MR ABBOT
NotWal
NotWal
QLD
7436 posts
QLD, 7436 posts
4 Aug 2010 8:28pm
japie said...

I cannot vote either, but then I never have anywhere which is why I do not wade into political debate!

It is a two horse race and both horses belong to the same owner. The system is dysfunctional and there is no such thing as democracy


You can still vote for the party with the issue you support. They may not be elected but if they get a good vote the majors will adopt their policy.


NotWal
NotWal
QLD
7436 posts
QLD, 7436 posts
4 Aug 2010 8:36pm
Bored, if you have no convictions about who to vote for then you should vote informally.

I haven't seen electronic voting. Surely you have the option of voting for none of the above or just not voting.
pepe47
pepe47
WA
1382 posts
WA, 1382 posts
4 Aug 2010 6:42pm
dude said...

Dumb question,i know,but what would happen if no one turned up to vote?.

Yes i know that it would never happen,i understand that non voters would be fined,,but what would happen??
and does anyone know if the Judean Peoples Front is in the running this year?


a highly contested marginal seat, The people's front of judea, not to be confused with the popular front
FormulaNova
FormulaNova
WA
15105 posts
WA, 15105 posts
4 Aug 2010 7:32pm
bored said...

im 18 , don't know politics and yet they are forceing me to vote, so i leave it up to those smarter and wiser than me, who do I vote for
(i can no longer do a simple donkey vote due to the fact its now all elctronic)


There you go, your instant guide:

www.aec.gov.au/Voting/Informal_Voting/

Maybe the electronic bit is just the bit where they electronically make sure the same person doesn't vote in 15 different places.

You can still vote for no one. No one else sees your form until it is 'not-counted'.

No one is smarter or wiser than you when it comes to voting time. We are all suckers. If the political parties haven't done enough to convince you to vote for them, do whatever you want.
deXtrous
deXtrous
NSW
451 posts
NSW, 451 posts
4 Aug 2010 9:45pm
The rule for this election should be to vote below the line and putting labour & liberal at the bottom.
DUDE
DUDE
NSW
1132 posts
NSW, 1132 posts
4 Aug 2010 9:49pm
a highly contested marginal seat, The people's front of judea, not to be confused with the popular front



The popular front,
****ing Splitters
cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
QLD, 12365 posts
4 Aug 2010 11:14pm
The title of this thread and the question asked is a very sad statement on the youth of this country.

They have been "dumbed down" to the point that they no longer know why they should vote or what the democratic process is.

Labor is counting on that by buying the dummie vote with hand outs.

Why would not a lame brain vote for someone who says "Here is some free money." as opposed to the other person who says "Get off your backside and do something and we will help you."
j murray
j murray
SA
947 posts
SA, 947 posts
5 Aug 2010 1:41pm

dextorus is spot on the money.

if one really believes in this country

then to vote above the line is wasted space. A brainless action, lazy.

Take your time and vote for the 140 odd below the line, number 1 to 140, that

is the only way to place your vote where it will do YOU the best.,

Political propaganda [promises] are not policy they still have to get them thru

the mob

My last vote was for the disabled party. They got a person up/in and already

better things are occurring for the disabled and carers.

There is a site that helps you obtain your maximun sting. Its "clueyvoter.com"
62mac
62mac
WA
24860 posts
WA, 24860 posts
5 Aug 2010 12:39pm
Not the one with big ears

oh well looks like a no vote
Diver
Diver
WA
554 posts
WA, 554 posts
5 Aug 2010 1:09pm
Sex Party with preferences to Family First - not that there is anything wrong with that. Each can't exist with out the other.

I wonder who got to go on top
Danger Mouse
Danger Mouse
WA
592 posts
WA, 592 posts
5 Aug 2010 1:29pm
dude said...

Dumb question,i know,but what would happen if no one turned up to vote?.

Yes i know that it would never happen,i understand that non voters would be fined,,but what would happen??
and does anyone know if the Judean Peoples Front is in the running this year?


NO, but the popular front is again, he's back at it
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