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joely

QLD

52 posts

joely

QLD, 52 posts

9 Aug 2012 9:12pm

Hi all,

'Sail Sandy' held at Sandringham Yacht Club each year, will be hosting its first kiting regatta.

Where: Sandringham Yacht Club
When: October 20th and 21st

Still figuring out the insurance issues,
full cover will be required.

The Kites will be on their own race course so we don't have to worry about other boats in the way.
The regatta will be governed by the ISAF racing rules of sailing appendix BB.

Notice of race will be available tomorrow at syc.com.au

If anyone knows the latest on kiting insurance please email me at [email protected]

Hope to see you there

wdric

NSW

1625 posts

wdric

NSW, 1625 posts

9 Aug 2012 9:17pm

As far as insurance do you know if being a member of AKSA is enough for racing?
I did send them an email via their contact on the web site but no reply

joely

QLD

52 posts

joely

QLD, 52 posts

10 Aug 2012 12:09am

From what I know the AKSA insurance is only public liability insurance that will cover if your kite damages something else ie gets caught in the power lines
And the yachting Australia insurance is different again covering if you damage or injure another competitor.
That is as it stands as far however the kiting is not covered under yachting Australia. And yachting Australia is speaking to their insurance company Oamps who are speaking to their underwriters to get kite racing covered.

This is how I see it at the moment
However I am not sure what insurance we need to run races and be 100% covered

If anyone knows more please fill me in

dusta

2940 posts

dusta

WA, 2940 posts

10 Aug 2012 3:57pm

joely said...

From what I know the AKSA insurance is only public liability insurance that will cover if your kite damages something else ie gets caught in the power lines

afaiaa the aksa cover includes injury to another person up to $10mill not just damage to equipment

wdric

NSW

1625 posts

wdric

NSW, 1625 posts

11 Aug 2012 12:14am

Would be a shame we have to pay again if we already have Public liability cover with our aksa membership because one organisation doesnt recognise the other

I am sure it should be OK as every kiting event you enter Aksa membership is required for this very reason.

Surely YA will recognise our own national bodies insurance cover!

Intheozone

247 posts

Intheozone

WA, 247 posts

23 Aug 2012 5:06pm

You would have thought YA would recognise us.

I work at a Yacht Club as a sailing manager and whilst I am very keen for kite racing to grow and expand.

YA are a bunch of money grabbing twits. We do not need to be part of them! They will just be someone else to pay money too. We already have our State Organisations Like WAKSA who do a great job, Then we have AKSA who are the national body. If we have Yachting australia and then their State bodies like Yachting WA

It will cost us all more money for no more gain.

mvdv

NSW

74 posts

mvdv

NSW, 74 posts

23 Aug 2012 10:41pm

Many people looking to compete in this at this stage?

joely

QLD

52 posts

joely

QLD, 52 posts

26 Aug 2012 1:30pm

Hey guys

Not sure about entries yet, I know there are a few people around Melbourne that are keen.

However the insurance bull**** is holding us all up. If we want to race out of yacht clubs and events like sail Melbourne we will more than likely need to become yachting Australia members.

The future of kite racing will be at yacht clubs, they have the infrastructure all set up and readiy to go, a strong volunteer base, meaning they have the race officers with the knowledge of how to properly set a course, the rescue boats and drivers.

The best thing would be that our aksa membership had an optional extra, the extra would register the kiters that wanted to race with yachting Australia. Meaning that we would have full insurance (provided we are included into the policy which is getting re-written mid September) and would not have to join a particular yacht club and could travel from event to event knowing that we are fully covered in the case of anything going wrong.

That's just my thoughts

If anyone from aksa is reading this is there anyway that this is possible?

mvdv

NSW

74 posts

mvdv

NSW, 74 posts

26 Aug 2012 9:58pm

Cool thanks Joel I think I may be down there around those dates so could be keen if some others are going in it.

I don't have too much background on the insurance situation but just a thought re your idea around having the optional extra from the AKSA policy: Given that we are looking to be recognised in sailing events wouldn't we be better to get the YA membership and reduce the insurance on the AKSA membership (or remove depending on the limitations of the YA insurance)?

joely

QLD

52 posts

joely

QLD, 52 posts

27 Aug 2012 12:50pm

That would be good.

from what i know normally you need to be part of a yacht club to become a yachting australia member. so it would be good if AKSA set themselves up as a club and had that extra available to racers.

i am sick of all this logistics rubbish i just want to start racing

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