07 Rhino warranty issues

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890Falcon
890Falcon
NSW
383 posts
NSW, 383 posts
28 Feb 2007 11:41am
Seems to be some warranty issues with the new rhino, for those thinking of buying one you better have a read.

http://www.kiteforum.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2336585
cRAZY Canuk
cRAZY Canuk
NSW
2528 posts
NSW, 2528 posts
28 Feb 2007 1:26pm
That didn't sound like a warrenty issue more that there was one piece of a new system that failed. A warrenty issue would be the part not being replaced and people *****ing about it.

New systems always have growing pains. It seams that there are people that have had the problem and some that haven't. Could have just been a bad batch of parts. Worst comes to worst and you like the way the kite flys buy some u-stick valves and get rid of the 2 pump system.

I'm sure that if this happened that you could take the kite to the store you bought it from and they'd sort it out. I've only owned north kites and have never had a issue getting things fixed.

Need EM to set us straight on this. In the mean time go to the local marine store buy some 50 cent T joints that are the right size and go for gold. I realize that having to bodge together a new kite isn't ideal but you can sit and moan or do something about it.
ThreadJacker
ThreadJacker
WA
61 posts
WA, 61 posts
28 Feb 2007 1:20pm
All the kites brands seem to have problems, let's look at this year
SS Link - Bridle "Code Red"
Cabrinha - Stitching / Tearing
Naish - Torch Wing Tip wear through, and a free backpack to give to your kid to take their lunch to pre-school in
North - Rhino - Valves etc
Best - Stitching on leading edge
I'm sure this goes on
Does anyone want to add to this list

890Falcon
890Falcon
NSW
383 posts
NSW, 383 posts
28 Feb 2007 4:53pm
Are all these kites coming out of the same factory in China, it seems to me we have more warranty issues than ever before, and if the kites does have issues within the first three months then what is it a warranty issue or your own issue.

Good comment threadjacker they are all the big brands and they all have issues, what happened to quality control.
robbo
robbo
WA
306 posts
WA, 306 posts
28 Feb 2007 3:03pm
the kite factories in China have probably found easier, cheaper and quicker ways to manufacture kite gear.

It all comes down to cost, no matter what any kite shop tells you about superior quality kites...

in making things quicker easier, and cheaper, they have no doubt had to make small sacrifices like strength, durability, inferior materials.

just accept it - everything is like that these days - as a society its what we want, so we have to live with these sacrifices too.

just go buy a new one
cRAZY Canuk
cRAZY Canuk
NSW
2528 posts
NSW, 2528 posts
28 Feb 2007 5:05pm
quote:
Originally posted by danza


Good comment threadjacker they are all the big brands and they all have issues, what happened to quality control.



The public wanted to pay less for kites and the companies wanted to make more money.

Don't a couple of the companies TJ pointed out have there kites built in Ozone's Factory in China

As for the Warranty it all depends on what the companies warranty policy is. After that some times the store you bought it from will help out other times you’re on your own.
JB
JB
NSW
2232 posts
JB JB
NSW, 2232 posts
28 Feb 2007 5:12pm
I wouldn't call this a big issue. Australia has had very little problems with the North 2 Pump system. Just to note the 2 pump system is the same on the Vegas as the Rhino, and the Vegas has been out now for nearly 6 months. Like with any products on the market, if you experience any issues that are a failure due to workmanship and or failure of materials, the item will be replaced or fixed as a warranty ASAP. But as I said there has been very minimal problems, especially concidering the number of North kites out on the market this year. As said in an earlier post, every new system has a few minor teething problems. If you have any inquiries regarding your north kite, please get in contact with your local dealer and they can inform you of the best action to take.

I can assure you that you only receive the best in quality and workmanship and materials with North Kiteboarding products, but as with anything in life, nothing is perfect, and you have to expect the odd hick up.

Regards,

JB
em
em
318 posts
em em
318 posts
28 Feb 2007 5:01pm
quote:
Originally posted by cRAZY Canuk

That didn't sound like a warrenty issue more that there was one piece of a new system that failed. A warrenty issue would be the part not being replaced and people *****ing about it.

New systems always have growing pains. It seams that there are people that have had the problem and some that haven't. Could have just been a bad batch of parts. Worst comes to worst and you like the way the kite flys buy some u-stick valves and get rid of the 2 pump system.

I'm sure that if this happened that you could take the kite to the store you bought it from and they'd sort it out. I've only owned north kites and have never had a issue getting things fixed.

Need EM to set us straight on this. In the mean time go to the local marine store buy some 50 cent T joints that are the right size and go for gold. I realize that having to bodge together a new kite isn't ideal but you can sit and moan or do something about it.



You got the point pretty much.
Have flown one of the first rhino in the country ( over 4 weeks now) and have happily smashed it all over the place and my connection valves haven't suffered whatsoever.
The Vegas has been on the market for 6 months, it has exactly the same two pump system than the Rhino and there's been no problem at all. We had few of the connection valves of the struts being returned with the Rhino. When I say "few" I really mean "few": so far exactly 4 kites out of the whole shipments of Vegas and Rhino combined! If that's what Danza wants to call a warranty issue, well...
That's what we call a very normal percentage of manufacturing mistakes, which always happen, no matter the brand, no matter the model, the year....
Plus, agree with crazy canuk, what's called a warranty issue is something that involves warranty claims that aren't been granted when they should, which is absolutely not the case as we've happily changed the "few" struts that had their valve broken (in circumstances we are not sure of any way...)
So I really don't see what's the fuss about...
4 kites out of the two models combined for an entire season, sincerely, I've heard of lot worse manufacturing default percentage!!!
So chill out guys...
All good...
Currently enjoying my new 12... And there's absolutely nothing wrong with it...
Puetz
Puetz
NT
2186 posts
NT, 2186 posts
9 Mar 2007 12:02am
G'day,

we had 4 x '07 Vegas's in Darwin (owned by a husband and wife team) and all of them had bladders go on them, 3 to 4 per kite (9,10, 14 and 16m, and all of them at the T piece!

And then my new Rhino 07 16m, the end struts both blew out next to the t piece joint, ie blew first time I pumped up the kite. It was figured out by us at the beach that the area closest to canopy where the strut meets the leading edge was the blowing out point (cherried), and it was determined that the bladder was too small to fill this area. I cut up some old bladder material and stuffed it in the corner then fitted the new bladder. So far so good! Time will tell.

My 12m Rhino (touch wood) hasn't had any problems yet. Awosume kite by the way, big jumps and flies really fast!

cheers,

Robert.
NSW, 4382 posts
9 Mar 2007 10:08am
quote:
Originally posted by cRAZY Canuk

The public wanted to pay less for kites and the companies wanted to make more money.

Don't a couple of the companies TJ pointed out have there kites built in Ozone's Factory in China

As for the Warranty it all depends on what the companies warranty policy is. After that some times the store you bought it from will help out other times you’re on your own.


G'day Crazy

Ozone does not have a factory in China, they set up in Vietnam several years ago, they feel they have better control and easier access to their factory and beaches for testing.

I have heard that Ozone make some kites for other brands. If you have a close look at an Instinct and then some other wll known brands its easy to pick the Ozone made kites, they are exceptionally well made.

If you buy from a reputable shop, any major brand of kite you should have no problem. We always go out of our way to fix any customers kite that has warranty issues. We understand what its like to miss a session!

Cya and

Goodwinds

steve



extralarge
extralarge
WA
17 posts
WA, 17 posts
9 Mar 2007 1:32pm
Not sure about it being a manufacturing mistake I would call it a design fault , remember this kite has just been released and it already has issues with the two pump system.North have got it wrong hope they get it right next time.They just should have bought the rights of slingshot the original and best one pump system.
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