13m v 11m for surf?

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gordknot
gordknot
NSW
148 posts
NSW, 148 posts
13 Mar 2009 10:06am
I'm just getting started. Have an old 12m Crossbow and a 9m slingshotT2. I'm looking to update the larger kite. I'm getting different stories on what size to get. Most tell me go for an 11m, like a Rev2 or Ozone, and just work the kite harder in lighter Syndey winds- benefit is i won't be overpowered and dragged downwind when wind picks up on the 13. Others say get the 13 for the extra power to ride upwind. I'm keen for surf riding so more interested in responsive turning, especially in bigger surf. Will the 13 be too sluggish? Maybe i should forget about trying to ride light winds in big surf- danger of overshooting kite??
marty72
marty72
QLD
298 posts
QLD, 298 posts
13 Mar 2009 11:16am
Smaller kite and a bigger/ wider surfboard works much better in light winds.
Sasha
Sasha
VIC
103 posts
VIC, 103 posts
13 Mar 2009 12:35pm
smaller kite for sure.
gruezi
gruezi
WA
3464 posts
WA, 3464 posts
13 Mar 2009 12:58pm
Kite are like d******cks, "it ain't the meat, it's the motion."
tightlines
tightlines
WA
3510 posts
WA, 3510 posts
13 Mar 2009 1:28pm
Big kites and waves don't go well together, so If you are determined to update the large kite for a Rev II, I would be going for the 11mtr if I was you, or better still IMO update your smaller kite and get a 9mtr Rev, Dos or Kima.
But hey that is just my opinion and I haven't kited on that side of the country.

I used to ride Bandits and the 7.5 was my most used kite in the surf (on a surfboard mostly), I am now on Eclipse Kima's and use mainly a 6 and also a 9, and if I can't get going on the 9 it aint worth going out IMO.
Even on a TT the biggest kite I would use in the surf was a 10DOS.
Kitehard
Kitehard
WA
2782 posts
WA, 2782 posts
13 Mar 2009 2:51pm
Hey Gordnot,

Tightlines is right. Big kites (larger than 11m) and large waves are a recipe for trashed kites.

I only ride up to about a 10 in surf. I also don't ride in less than about 18-20 knots in surf if it is side shore as it's not really doable if you're running down the line with the wind.

My suggestion is to keep what you have and get a mini mal. A 7'6" or 8' mini mal will get you out in marginal conditions where you will have more than a fair chance at whipping a smaller kite around fast enough to get yourself in and out of trouble.

Even brand new it's $1000 cheaper than a large kite. It will also be excellent to paddle on when the wind isn't happening but the waves are.

Good winds,

gordknot
gordknot
NSW
148 posts
NSW, 148 posts
13 Mar 2009 6:22pm
THanks all. That's kinda what i've been thinking. I'm learning on a 5'11" thruster with predator straps and I've got a mini mal. My 12m is feeling a little slow in the surf on lighter days, and i've been thinking big surf and light winds would be hard to get firing. Better just to wait for size and decent wind
loco4olas
loco4olas
NSW
1525 posts
NSW, 1525 posts
16 Mar 2009 12:31pm
gordknot said...

I'm just getting started. Have an old 12m Crossbow and a 9m slingshotT2. I'm looking to update the larger kite. I'm getting different stories on what size to get. Most tell me go for an 11m, like a Rev2 or Ozone, and just work the kite harder in lighter Syndey winds- benefit is i won't be overpowered and dragged downwind when wind picks up on the 13. Others say get the 13 for the extra power to ride upwind. I'm keen for surf riding so more interested in responsive turning, especially in bigger surf. Will the 13 be too sluggish? Maybe i should forget about trying to ride light winds in big surf- danger of overshooting kite??


At Palmy?

As others have said-go smaller rather than larger with the kite-biggest I ride is a 9M (78KG) on a 6'1" surfboard (no straps).


Saffer
Saffer
VIC
4501 posts
VIC, 4501 posts
16 Mar 2009 1:50pm
gordknot said...

THanks all. That's kinda what i've been thinking. I'm learning on a 5'11" thruster with predator straps and I've got a mini mal. My 12m is feeling a little slow in the surf on lighter days, and i've been thinking big surf and light winds would be hard to get firing. Better just to wait for size and decent wind


Cab's are notoriously slow turning so you should find the 11m Rev2 substantially faster. I suggest you take it out for a test to see the difference. If thats not fast enough for you, try a Furia 11m.
Robbo2099
Robbo2099
WA
753 posts
WA, 753 posts
16 Mar 2009 11:57am
11m REV is awesome in the waves, 9m is even better -- ALSO, a bigger board will make a MUCH bigger difference than a bigger kite, no matter what the conditions. A 6'2" surfboard and a 9m REV will get you going easily upwind in anything over 15 knots. I also hear that the new 09 Griffin 9m and 10.5m are really good in the surf too but I haven't tried em.
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