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menox
menox
NSW
152 posts
NSW, 152 posts
19 Nov 2008 8:57pm
Gday fellas. recently purchased a 08 9m sport 2. Just got a few questions about it.

As owners would know there are back line trimmers on the bar. The book suggested to have them so the white stitching is in the middle of the adjuster.

However i was out today and the wind was very light. I decided to pull in the adjusters all the way and what a difference it made. Instead of really struggling to get up, i was getting up and in a decent gust i could tack upwind. My question is should i leave the fully adjusted in? In higher winds 20-25 knts will it cause the kite to be too touchy?

Also on the 5th line there are two knots. One closer to the kite and one further from it. What knots give more/less power?

and finally i noticed today on the depower strap there is a red stopper ball. Can this be moved back to the further black tabs to alow more power?

Sorry for all the questions just wanted to know cheers!
poor relative
poor relative
WA
9106 posts
WA, 9106 posts
19 Nov 2008 7:19pm
The back line adjuster makes huge differences, its like you get another bit of grunt, plus it helps with low end when you pull them in and high end when you let them out However pull them in too much and the kite starts to back stall more, let them right out and you loose the steering feel (if that makes sense)

On the fifth the knot furthest away from the kite is the most powerful setting, closer to the kite for more upper range, basically it changes the kites angle of attack.

Not sure about the red ball, but i dont think so.......

Hope that helps
menox
menox
NSW
152 posts
NSW, 152 posts
19 Nov 2008 9:27pm
thanks PR, I will have to play around with the adjusters abit more i think. I was out in 30 knots the other day and only being a learner i was struggling especially in the surf! But it was awesome fun!
Aiolus
Aiolus
NSW
102 posts
NSW, 102 posts
19 Nov 2008 9:35pm
Hey Mitch,


I did some reading up on this after the other day ...

- If you lengthen the back line trimmers you get less power - good for lots of wind
- If you shorten the back line you get more power - good for little wind

The 5th line connection works the same way as the front line trim (which is the opposite to the back trim) -
- If you shorten the 5th line by attaching closest to kite you get less power but faster kite turning speed
- If you lengthen the 5th by attaching to the furthest knot you get more power but slower kite turning speed

Apparently the guy that I giot my kite from says there is an easy mod for my Light II that gives it much faster turning speed .. it should work for your Sport II as well I guess?

"The back line connect to a V on the Trailing edge.
Just open the V and connect the back line directly to the most rear attachment point.
You also need to make the back line a bit shorter (2cm), 2 knots on the bridle will make the trick.
Kite become faster and tight turn. A bit more stally but nothing much.
We did the mode in all our kites for over 1 year and no problems.
Just slide the front line of the V inside the back on so it doesn't dangle and you can change the mode back in 30 seconds.
Not sure if it will work on others Instinct models."

Cheers mate, see you when there's a bit of wind at the weekend!

Aiolus
Aiolus
NSW
102 posts
NSW, 102 posts
19 Nov 2008 9:40pm
menox said...

thanks PR, I will have to play around with the adjusters abit more i think. I was out in 30 knots the other day and only being a learner i was struggling especially in the surf! But it was awesome fun!


From memory I think you had the front line trim all the way out which was full power? I'm glad I decided to go into the river that day cheers
Rhys McClintock
Rhys McClintock
NSW
995 posts
NSW, 995 posts
20 Nov 2008 10:18am
On my 9m Edge I leave the back line adjusters hard in all the time, then just trim through the depower strap untill it gets too windy for that. I find that easier than having two things to adjust, actually 3 things to adjust because the back lines are a bit fidly...

They do slip though so just make sure to retighten them as part of ur pre-flight-check-your-lines arent-twisted-then-thumbs-up-lets-go thing....
Kitehard
Kitehard
WA
2782 posts
WA, 2782 posts
20 Nov 2008 10:26am
Hi Menox,

I have found that when the kites are new, the back line adjusters are better to be pulled in all the way to give more feel to the steering. After a few weeks of use, as the front lines stretch to their normal length (an inch or two) the back lines will even up and then the factory setting is about right on. As PR said, by having them pulled all the way in, after the lines have "bedded in", it may start to back stall a little.

I generally adjust the back lines to suit the way the kite flies on the day. Most of our kites have all bedded in so it is pretty easy to just set the back lines to the factory mark. Easing out the lines can give you a bit more range in the top end but I prefer to use the kite trim for that.

The 5th line knot at the end of the line is for normal power, the knot closest to the kite is to increase the steering speed and also depower the kite just a little to give it even more range.

You cannot re3move the red ball to increase the depower of the kite. If it doesn't depower enough as standard you really shouldn't be out. I have held Edges in really crazy wind speeds with only an inch or two of trim. The trimmer has a huge effect on the kite and only a few inches are generally needed to depower the kite sufficiently in the strongest of winds.

Although they are very stable in extremely overpowered conditions, I don't recommend you continue to fly them massively overpowered as they still have a wind range which should be observed. You should always ride within the kites wind range and that goes for all kites, especially as a beginner.

The mod to the Light II's is basically moving the point of leverage closer to the wing tip, thus giving you more leverage. It wont really increase turning speed but does make it easier to turn and slightly lighter on the bar. I tried this mod on the 07 Sports when we first got one and it made little difference.

I hope this helps.

Good winds,

menox
menox
NSW
152 posts
NSW, 152 posts
20 Nov 2008 2:07pm
cheers thanks for responses guys appreciated it. Ian hows kiting going you up on the board yet? Cant wait to do some down winders with u!

Man wheres the wind when u really want it????
kitesurfbali
kitesurfbali
WA
531 posts
WA, 531 posts
20 Nov 2008 12:43pm
Hello all,
regarding the mod...
I don't think that it will works on a Sport!
If you look at the way the "V" is set up on a light is already toward the rear of the kite.
On a Sport is more in the middle....
But you can try in few second and see how it goes! Just slide the front attachment inside the back so that doesn't dandle around.
All my friends that like to use the kite in waves have the mod on.
It does something specially in big size 14 and 12m.
Bye Jankie
rusty7
rusty7
QLD
504 posts
QLD, 504 posts
20 Nov 2008 4:03pm
I have being flying Ozones for 2 seasons now ( the edge ) i have flown the sport and the light as well. These kites fly great out of the bag, mods are not really required. Especailly if you are relatively new to the sport. The guys that design these things and the test riders with heaps of experience that set these kites up know a lot more than the average kiter. I adjust the end tabs on my kites, either fully in or on the white line. You can do it on the fly but it is a good idea to do it before you launch.I hardly ever use the second knot on the middle line attachment, I have no issues with power.(at 100kg's if there was a problem I would know about it) Having the correct kite and board combination for your conditions and your ability is more important. The ball on the depower line does not move nor would you want it too. One thing I do find on the edge is that if you pull the depower on about 5cm it improves the upwind significantly, this was mentioned in the designers notes and it is acurate. I found the 9m kites have heaps of power so I would recomend concerntrate on technique rather than messing with the kite.
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