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iJez
iJez
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31 Jan 2007 12:50am
Hey! I'm super keen to get into kitesurfing. I have had a lesson and am ready to learn as I go.

I am thinking of getting a North Vegas 05 14m 5 Line Kite with a RRD XX 130.35 Board! is this okay for an initial setup? ...if not, hoe come?

plus any advise on what spec to go for and what brands to stay away from would be great. I plan on buying equiptment second hand and have a budget of around $500-$1000.

Cheers... Jez
Kitehard
Kitehard
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30 Jan 2007 11:49pm
Hey ijez,

Welcome to the sport. Don't suppose you are over doing it with a whole single lesson do you????

If you establish a relationship with a decent instructor, they will guide you with what you should buy. Preferably pick an instructor that doesn't sell gear at a retail level so you get the right advice and not whats slow in the shop.

For $500 - $1000 you will get complete crap, forget it, keep saving. $500 will get you a semi decent 2nd hand board, expect to pay around $650 for a good one.

A good recent model kite (less than 18 months old) will set you back around $900 - $1200 depending upon make model and usage.

Anything super cheap is either (a)flogged to death, (b) high performance and hard to sell, (c) Moses' first kite or (d) a real dog.

Safety and performance have come a long way in the last 18 months and is worth paying the extra bucks for.

Good luck, ... and go get another lesson,

iJez
iJez
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31 Jan 2007 2:39am
okay cheers man. I'll look into a 2nd lesson. thanks for the heads up all that... appreciate it!
asmdsr
asmdsr
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31 Jan 2007 1:41am
Kitehard is right about spending some money on a good kite, particularly wrt safety. However you should be able to get started on an old/crappy board, so if you want to save the dollars save it on the board.
GreenPat
GreenPat
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31 Jan 2007 10:04am
Also, what is your weight and where will you be kiting regularly? Your profile says Victoria, perhaps a Victorian who knows the average windspeeds at your spot will be able to help with advice on sizing.

130cm sounds like a really short board for learning to me, but I'm 110kg and 6'2". I only ride that now after 3 years and many hours on the water. If you're 5'7" and 60kg it might be better, but if that's the case someone closer to your size might be able to comment.
iJez
iJez
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31 Jan 2007 2:59pm
I'm 6'2" and around 75kg. I'll kiting mostly around Brighton beach and eastern parts of port philip bay. but also Merricks.

so would a 140cm be a better size for a board?
sci
sci
WA
762 posts
sci sci
WA, 762 posts
31 Jan 2007 2:14pm
I have been kitesurfing around 4 months. My initial set up went like this.

13m fuel
9m fuel
145 Airush Sidewinder

Got both kites for $1000 which was a real deal, you may be able to pick up a decent bargain as long as you know what to look for so it would probably be best to get yourself down to the local scene and chat to the experienced guys and girls.

This way you can dial the conditions, see what everyone is riding and maybe even get some free advice.(make sure they know what they are talking about and are not flying a flouro orange kite)

If you are especially green to the sport and or board sports I would recommend spending all your cash on a BOW kite such as the Cabrinha XBOW. This kite is great for beginners as it is stable, offers great depower range and is incredibly easy to relaunch.

Whatever you decide I can guarantee you will learn your lessons along the way both the good and the bad. Finally read the mags, plunder the web and get lessons because you will advance quicker and be a safe rider.

I am sure you will be bomabared with top advice on thi thread so I will leave it there. Good luck on your journey
robbo
robbo
WA
306 posts
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31 Jan 2007 2:36pm
6,2 and 75kg - what are you made of balsa wood?
sci
sci
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sci sci
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31 Jan 2007 2:37pm
hahahaha
iJez
iJez
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VIC, 6 posts
31 Jan 2007 5:13pm
yeh MDF or Ply maybe, but atleast not lard!
iJez
iJez
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VIC, 6 posts
31 Jan 2007 5:16pm
quote:
Originally posted by sci

I have been kitesurfing around 4 months. My initial set up went like this.

13m fuel
9m fuel
145 Airush Sidewinder

Got both kites for $1000 which was a real deal, you may be able to pick up a decent bargain as long as you know what to look for so it would probably be best to get yourself down to the local scene and chat to the experienced guys and girls.

This way you can dial the conditions, see what everyone is riding and maybe even get some free advice.(make sure they know what they are talking about and are not flying a flouro orange kite)

If you are especially green to the sport and or board sports I would recommend spending all your cash on a BOW kite such as the Cabrinha XBOW. This kite is great for beginners as it is stable, offers great depower range and is incredibly easy to relaunch.

Whatever you decide I can guarantee you will learn your lessons along the way both the good and the bad. Finally read the mags, plunder the web and get lessons because you will advance quicker and be a safe rider.

I am sure you will be bomabared with top advice on thi thread so I will leave it there. Good luck on your journey



- cheers Sci... thats a good help!
GreenPat
GreenPat
QLD
4107 posts
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31 Jan 2007 4:44pm
quote:
Originally posted by iJez

yeh MDF or Ply maybe, but atleast not lard!



Hope that wasn't aimed in my direction... [}:)]

It's all muscle baby
see:
colinwill78
colinwill78
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31 Jan 2007 7:25pm
nothing wrong with cheap second hand gear.
as long as you know what you need.
Eg; for a beginner i saw a 2 kite quiver of used 05 yarga's for about $500 with bar and lines. I think it was on seabreeze, they'd be a decent start, if you're like most people you'll get hooked and upgrade your gear when you can, then you just flog off the old kites to a jealous friend who wants to learn so you've got someone to do down winders with.
one lesson was all i had, and while the instructor couldn't (and still can't) fly a kite, he was very good on safety, if you know all the safety stuff and got a bit of coaching (i had plenty of that too) then go for it.
and your choice of set up sounds good to me, but you might progress faster on a slightly bigger board. I'm 6' and 90kg and learned on a massive 172cm twin tip, still got it and still use it when it's light.
but i have a 138cm for most days.
time to shut up now......
iJez
iJez
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6 posts
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1 Feb 2007 3:04am
awesome colinwill... I like the sound of the way u picked it up... im happy to live and learn ...and by speaking to people to pick things up. I dont want to be buying top gear to start with, ill get that down the track i rekon.
youngbull
youngbull
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826 posts
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1 Feb 2007 2:56am
I reckon that second hand gear is a great way to introduce yourself to the sport if your a newbee for that cheap buget. the only downfull is that you do not have the saftey as you do in the new gear, lessons help and so does that gut felling you get when it is not safe. Talk to heaps of people on the beach + your instructor they give you the all round feel of what you think is the way to go. Just becarefull it's addictive.


GreenPat
GreenPat
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1 Feb 2007 9:56am
That gut feeling you get when it's not safe, go back and look closely at every post here and you will see that no-one says that kites from within the last 18 months are actually 'safe'. Darren (kitehard) says safety has come a long way, asmdsr doesn't say new kites are safe, and sci alludes that the more you read, listen and learn the more a safe rider you will be.

Don't forget, you're strapping yourself to a piece of fabric that can haul you with enough force to kill you on impact with hard things. A bow kite with superb depower will not save someone with the fear of a rabbit in the headlights who is hanging onto the bar instead of letting it go. Nor will it if it is rigged wrong and goes into death spirals on launching.

Just a friendly reminder. Nothing to be concerned about.
manicskier
manicskier
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1 Feb 2007 2:50pm
Whats wrong with floruo orange????
youngbull
youngbull
QLD
826 posts
QLD, 826 posts
1 Feb 2007 11:19pm
have to agree with greenpat to a degree if you look at it that way. however every kite even new ones can maul ya.....if you dont know what your doing......
GreenPat
GreenPat
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4107 posts
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2 Feb 2007 12:41am
but youngbull, that's exactly what I'm saying
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