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menox
menox
NSW
152 posts
NSW, 152 posts
3 Apr 2008 3:58pm
Hey guys, My problem is this. I have all my gear and have had a lesson. In the lesson i got up on the board ect. Now I dont like the idea of loosing my board, and not keen on a board leash. Im worried if i go out by myself ill loose my board i just spent 850 on.

I have a few kite friends, but lately i havent been able to venture out with them. I have the option of the beach (with waves) or a salt water river (that wont really be good to kite in until later this year)

Should i just wait for the right day with a fellow kiter to watch over me? Or Just attack it. I feel confident that i will do well with board riding. Just the turning around ect, i dont want to come stuck and get into trouble!
harry potter
harry potter
VIC
2777 posts
VIC, 2777 posts
3 Apr 2008 4:05pm
Stay within your limits but just go for it. Or at least go out and practice body dragging until you have that down then you wont have to worry about losing your board.

surfingboyo
surfingboyo
QLD
318 posts
QLD, 318 posts
3 Apr 2008 3:07pm
i say you should go for it.

when i was learning on the open beaches i never lost a board. but about 1 month ago, into my second year of kiting, i lost 1 in the river mouth. i guess this shows you dont need to be a total noob to lose a board.

it can happen to anyone.

NJPornstar
NJPornstar
WA
790 posts
WA, 790 posts
3 Apr 2008 1:12pm
Hi Mate,
First thing you need to learn is safety. Assessing your hazards.
(On the beach, in the water and potentially your gear)

Second is learn how to relaunch your kite.

Third is how to body drag back to the board and with the board.

These are minor hard yards, you don’t have these basic skills covered you will certainly come unstuck one day.

If your instructor didn’t make you aware of these 3 little things, ask questions
menox
menox
NSW
152 posts
NSW, 152 posts
3 Apr 2008 5:10pm
thanks for replys guys. NJ- I dont have much trouble relaunching my kite, only one when the bridle got tangled around the wing tip. In regards to body dragging, I can go up-wind but need more practice. Do you recomend going out in surf for body dragging?, Im not talking big surf just a few feet.

Im thinking next cross shore, cross on shore wind ill go out and just body drag like a mofo, Get going up wind down pat, then ill take the board out.
h20fly
h20fly
WA
384 posts
WA, 384 posts
3 Apr 2008 2:22pm
menox said...

thanks for replys guys. NJ- I dont have much trouble relaunching my kite, only one when the bridle got tangled around the wing tip. In regards to body dragging, I can go up-wind but need more practice. Do you recomend going out in surf for body dragging?, Im not talking big surf just a few feet.

Im thinking next cross shore, cross on shore wind ill go out and just body drag like a mofo, Get going up wind down pat, then ill take the board out.


thats sounds perfect dude. just remember dont go any further out than your willing to swim back in. once your gaining ground with upwind body dragging your ready for the board. if things do go wrong you can always drag back to the beach walk upwind then drag back to your board.. if its not to far away and you can keep it in site :)
menox
menox
NSW
152 posts
NSW, 152 posts
3 Apr 2008 5:27pm
thanks H20fly, Im so pumped to get out there and start kitesurfing!!, But Nice and slow and learning all the essentials until its 2nd nature is more important! Ill let you guys know how i go!
lotofwind
lotofwind
NSW
6451 posts
NSW, 6451 posts
3 Apr 2008 6:57pm
Can be hard to tell sometimes ,when your learning to body drag,how much ground you are making(or looseing) going up wind if you are out past the waves with no stationary objects near you.
Saw a guy the other day body drag out past the small waves then pulled out a tennis ball from his wettie and chucked it up wind behind him 20 meters.
He was pretending it was his board after a big stack.
If you can do this and get back to the tennis ball,you will have no problem getting back to your board.
Thought this was a good practise idea for the noobies to be able to do this before heading out on a board.

h20fly
h20fly
WA
384 posts
WA, 384 posts
3 Apr 2008 4:01pm
but what if you loose your tennis ball .. dude there like $2.50 each!!
menox
menox
NSW
152 posts
NSW, 152 posts
3 Apr 2008 7:10pm
thats an awesome idea lotofwind. * Races to the back yard and wrestles with my german shepard to take her tennis ball!
Choady
Choady
NSW
72 posts
NSW, 72 posts
3 Apr 2008 8:39pm
When your starting out just stay away from areas that have strong currents like tidal river mouths, dolls point etc etc.

That way you shouldn't lose your board. Surfs ok cause generally your board will wash in to the beach.

But listen to the advice of the guys on the forum - practice heaps of body dragging and you will be right.
Enclave
Enclave
QLD
29 posts
QLD, 29 posts
3 Apr 2008 7:43pm
Most important tasks in kitesurfing:

- Body dragging upwind
- Relaunch the kite from the water
- Know how the safety works


Keep practising body dragging and the chance you loosing your board is very little!
buckwheat
buckwheat
WA
85 posts
WA, 85 posts
3 Apr 2008 5:48pm
Hey menox, I'm a beginner too, and I don't worry about it at all - the main reason is that if you obey one of the most important rules in kiting (certainly vital for a beginner), that being never go out in an off-shore breeze, then your board should always wash back to shore.

Of course as others have said its great practice for body dragging upwind, but its a great fallback option when all else fails.

Good luck!
h20fly
h20fly
WA
384 posts
WA, 384 posts
3 Apr 2008 6:30pm
buckwheat said...

Hey menox, I'm a beginner too, and I don't worry about it at all - the main reason is that if you obey one of the most important rules in kiting (certainly vital for a beginner), that being never go out in an off-shore breeze, then your board should always wash back to shore.

Of course as others have said its great practice for body dragging upwind, but its a great fallback option when all else fails.

Good luck!


careful with that one dude.. even in cross shore winds if your far enough out your board might not come for 30 km's ... dont rely on it keep your eye on your board and get back to it dont wait for it to come to you
sink cut
sink cut
NSW
105 posts
NSW, 105 posts
3 Apr 2008 11:00pm
Hey mennox, I had a sick kite up near my work yesterday because I was running too late to make it down there, but you should keep checking the beach because I know 3 other kiters that were out there yesterday arvo.

They are friendly blokes and are almost always there in a NE. Just introduce yourself to them and tell them you live around the corner and that your learning and they'll keep an eye out for you. - Just keep away from the swimmers. Best to walk way upwind near the golf course rather than downwind because the wind is really dodgy south of the surf club. We should still get a few NE before winter. hopefully we'll get out soon
dirtyharry
dirtyharry
WA
444 posts
WA, 444 posts
3 Apr 2008 8:08pm
Is it possible to body drag upwind? Or is it more a case of the board blowing downwind faster than yourself when you body drag? I've never really taken much notice of a stationary object on the beach or anything so am just interested to know.
menox
menox
NSW
152 posts
NSW, 152 posts
3 Apr 2008 11:32pm
hey sink cut, Yeah i seen some blokes out, One guy i always see on a green North kite, and another on the red ozone. Hopefully we get a few NE's soon. Ill be out there next time going for a drag with a tennis ball lol! Once i do that and if you are with me ill give the board a crack! See ya soon dude!
harrysurfer
harrysurfer
WA
254 posts
WA, 254 posts
3 Apr 2008 8:48pm
i started this year and mate just go for it if you lose your board just bodydrag and get your board the key to bodydrag upwind is not to be too powered and unless you do huge jumps your board will never be too far away
NSW, 4382 posts
4 Apr 2008 9:22am
menox said...

hey sink cut, Yeah i seen some blokes out, One guy i always see on a green North kite, and another on the red ozone. Hopefully we get a few NE's soon. Ill be out there next time going for a drag with a tennis ball lol! Once i do that and if you are with me ill give the board a crack! See ya soon dude!


Yeah ditto that Menox go an intoduce yourself to those guys they are very friendly and will keep an eye out for you.
Getting back to the board is easy, you don't need to practice it heaps, because you will get to practice it in real time once you start with the board.
And anyway, most times the board will wash in where you are.

The key to body dragging is the angle you keep the kite at, not too low and not too high, say around 10 oclock if that make sense?
And don't be choking the kite pulling the bar in too much, just a bit of pressure on the bar. Hold you breath and charge upwind with the arm on the sand side of your body extended and you back arched a bit and feet extended.

And yeah, pump the kite up firm, those waroos like a bit of pressure and can handle it. The pump will be quite hard to operate when you have reached the right pressure.
It is very unusual to get a rear line bridle tangled on a tip on those kites, and once its there you have to flag unless you have plenty of room and can yank on that snagged line when the kite is crashd on the water.

Cya and

Goodwinds

steve

buckwheat
buckwheat
WA
85 posts
WA, 85 posts
4 Apr 2008 7:43am
h20fly, good point - I haven't been out in a cross shore yet. Its a good reminder to not get too complacent when I do go out in one

h20fly said...

buckwheat said...

Hey menox, I'm a beginner too, and I don't worry about it at all - the main reason is that if you obey one of the most important rules in kiting (certainly vital for a beginner), that being never go out in an off-shore breeze, then your board should always wash back to shore.

Of course as others have said its great practice for body dragging upwind, but its a great fallback option when all else fails.

Good luck!


careful with that one dude.. even in cross shore winds if your far enough out your board might not come for 30 km's ... dont rely on it keep your eye on your board and get back to it dont wait for it to come to you


menox
menox
NSW
152 posts
NSW, 152 posts
4 Apr 2008 3:12pm
Thanks Steve for advice, I did find going slow and holding the ktie as u said at 10 o
clock helps heaps. I will indeed pump up the kite abit firmer and see how that travels! Just need some wind now! Steve i brought an underground flx32 from you about 3 weeks ago, still have yet to try it! its killing me!!!
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