hey arcman its roger phillips here of woolgoolga kiteboard and surf store NSW i was pretty instrested in these ARCS you talk about, what are they? are they really as good as you say? how bout you send me a demo up and if i like we can talk buisness. my number at the shop is (02) 55 450 360 give me a call from 9am till 4pm mon to fri. cheers hope to speak soon. Roger.