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CalShave
CalShave
VIC
17 posts
VIC, 17 posts
18 Oct 2015 9:59am
Hey guys I'm an intermediate kiteboarder, bit of wake style unhooked stuff, freestyle, free ride and a little bit of waves

I am coming from a 2013 10m North Vegas, really liked it but I want to go something more all round, better wind range etc

I think North Evo is the best option from my research, as it seems to be able to do everything! Does anyone know when the 2016 model is released?

Also what other kites in all brands compete with this model?
kemp90
kemp90
QLD
1694 posts
QLD, 1694 posts
18 Oct 2015 9:34am
Can't beat the best ts. I'm going from best gp to the ts, for more range and a little more forgiving when hitting rails and kickers. I'm have the 15m ts at the moment and I was completely blown away at how good it was for freestyle. Was super easy to pass the bar.
Declan came second at nationals this year on the ts.
suniboy21
suniboy21
VIC
1090 posts
VIC, 1090 posts
18 Oct 2015 11:18am
Give the Slingshot RPM a try. Extremely well built kite. Simple bar and lines design that's proven.
Slingshot crew are getting around Victoria ATM if you are lucky enough to get some wind.

Rails
Rails
QLD
1371 posts
QLD, 1371 posts
18 Oct 2015 10:27am
suniboy21 said..
Give the Slingshot RPM a try. Extremely well built kite. Simple bar and lines design that's proven.
Slingshot crew are getting around Victoria ATM if you are lucky enough to get some wind.



+1
ste
ste
WA
524 posts
ste ste
WA, 524 posts
18 Oct 2015 9:10am
Pivot! Although most brands seem pretty sick these days.
kemp90
kemp90
QLD
1694 posts
QLD, 1694 posts
18 Oct 2015 11:32am
ste said...
Pivot! Although most brands seem pretty sick these days.


I can't image unhooking with a pivot.
glendog
glendog
QLD
520 posts
QLD, 520 posts
18 Oct 2015 11:38am
Iv riden alot of kites now from most of the big brands, imo you cant go past an RPM
flyingcab
flyingcab
VIC
942 posts
VIC, 942 posts
18 Oct 2015 8:00pm
Seems like you are after a bridled C kite.
So you should get a true 5 line C kite
strekke
strekke
89 posts
89 posts
18 Oct 2015 5:00pm
North Dice
ste
ste
WA
524 posts
ste ste
WA, 524 posts
18 Oct 2015 5:37pm
Yeh sorry, I didn't read properly, delete the pivot.
BurkeyBoy
BurkeyBoy
QLD
549 posts
QLD, 549 posts
19 Oct 2015 10:32am
Naish Park
DanozDirect
DanozDirect
QLD
106 posts
QLD, 106 posts
19 Oct 2015 10:55am
Cabrinha Fx, but I am biased since it's my fav kite right now.
shadeyMF
shadeyMF
WA
15 posts
WA, 15 posts
19 Oct 2015 9:07am
allrounder - catalyst ..

currently riding a mix of pretty much everything ,, wake , surf , skim and the cat does it all !
EastCC
EastCC
QLD
356 posts
QLD, 356 posts
19 Oct 2015 11:27am
Ocean Rodeo Razor
Drury
Drury
NSW
502 posts
NSW, 502 posts
19 Oct 2015 1:01pm
CalShave said..
Hey guys I'm an intermediate kiteboarder, bit of wake style unhooked stuff, freestyle, free ride and a little bit of waves

I am coming from a 2013 10m North Vegas, really liked it but I want to go something more all round, better wind range etc

I think North Evo is the best option from my research, as it seems to be able to do everything! Does anyone know when the 2016 model is released?

Also what other kites in all brands compete with this model?


Cal,


If you want something that unhooks well too then the Evo isn't the best option. One of our customers took one on one of our overseas trips and it had way too much unhooked pull. It was an absolute nightmare for doing freestyle on. I think that's more the Dice's forte but I'm not sure. The best unhooked all around kites I've tried are the RPM, Envy, FX, and GTS3. The first two are better if you're into wakestyle a bit more than waves and the second two are much faster so will excel for wave riding and kite looping. These kites all will unhook very very well and still offer you enough freeride and wave performance.


Cheers
CalShave
CalShave
VIC
17 posts
VIC, 17 posts
19 Oct 2015 2:07pm
Awesome guys thanks for all the replies! I was also trying to go a kite that had quite good wind range as I want to try and just go one 10m! My 2013 north Vegas 10m got me out in 17-pretty much 30 sort of thing so I would definitely not want to go backwards in wind range, and a bigger wind range would be a bonus
tbranse
tbranse
WA
49 posts
WA, 49 posts
19 Oct 2015 11:15am
kemp90 said..
Can't beat the best ts.



+1

but if you wanna stick with North than the Dice is probably your best bet...try both and pick what you like more.

Swavek
Swavek
WA
396 posts
WA, 396 posts
20 Oct 2015 4:49pm
Wainman Smoke (9m) is a good all round kite - fast turning, good wind range, good hang time, good drift, good anything (don't know about unhooked though - not there yet)
axion
axion
VIC
144 posts
VIC, 144 posts
20 Oct 2015 8:52pm
+1 for the lf envy, I switched up my quiver of 2014 north evo's for 2015 Lf envy's at the end of last year and there is no comparison the envy is better in every way. If you want a great all rounder envy or rpm I reckon.
Swavek
Swavek
WA
396 posts
WA, 396 posts
21 Oct 2015 7:43am
Swavek said..
Wainman Smoke (9m) is a good all round kite - fast turning, good wind range, good hang time, good drift, good anything (don't know about unhooked though - not there yet)


Whoever gave it a red thumb probably have never flown this kite ....
suniboy21
suniboy21
VIC
1090 posts
VIC, 1090 posts
21 Oct 2015 11:06am
Swavek said..

Swavek said..
Wainman Smoke (9m) is a good all round kite - fast turning, good wind range, good hang time, good drift, good anything (don't know about unhooked though - not there yet)



Whoever gave it a red thumb probably have never flown this kite ....


Think you might have answered your reason for red thumbs.
kitingtopher
kitingtopher
SA
313 posts
SA, 313 posts
21 Oct 2015 12:59pm
apparently the link was good....
kemp90
kemp90
QLD
1694 posts
QLD, 1694 posts
21 Oct 2015 12:55pm
So good that slingshot have the option to go the above bar depower. That's what annoyed me most about my fuel.
Swavek
Swavek
WA
396 posts
WA, 396 posts
21 Oct 2015 2:55pm
suniboy21 said..

Swavek said..


Swavek said..
Wainman Smoke (9m) is a good all round kite - fast turning, good wind range, good hang time, good drift, good anything (don't know about unhooked though - not there yet)




Whoever gave it a red thumb probably have never flown this kite ....



Think you might have answered your reason for red thumbs.


All you fellow kiters who look for your perfect kite, don't be influenced by those who claim to know the best, discount the kite because they don’t like the brand, or graphics, or the person who recommended it. All I am saying is that I tried several kites and I am impressed with Wainman Smoke – it really suits me at my level. If you have a chance to try one, I think it is worth to try it – you might like it as much as I liked it. Now, all you ‘red thumb people’ go for it, ‘Express Yourself’
eppo
eppo
WA
9793 posts
WA, 9793 posts
21 Oct 2015 4:44pm
strekke said..
North Dice




Okay then, if he is coming from the 2013 Vegas, then he should try the north dice 2015/2016. Red thumb away.... But that makes perfect sense to me.

rpm would also be on my list and the FX. Oh and the core gst.
harry potter
harry potter
VIC
2777 posts
VIC, 2777 posts
21 Oct 2015 10:53pm
Switchblade...
Jack of all trades master of none.
littlewing
littlewing
QLD
152 posts
QLD, 152 posts
25 Oct 2015 8:09pm
hi sorry bit confused about the red thumbs for the dice was looking on the north site and when you enter freestyle, wake and wave comes up with evo no 1 choice and dice second is it because the dice doesnt have a better range than the vegas? Seems to be marketed at all rounder

Calshave did you end up getting a new kite if so what was it and how did it go?
suniboy21
suniboy21
VIC
1090 posts
VIC, 1090 posts
26 Oct 2015 4:04am
kemp90 said..
So good that slingshot have the option to go the above bar depower. That's what annoyed me most about my fuel.


Kemp, ive tried the new bar with above the bar depower... its not terrible but id still rather below the bar.
The swivel at the chicken loop makes it hard to hook back in straight sometimes.

I like simplicity.
kemp90
kemp90
QLD
1694 posts
QLD, 1694 posts
26 Oct 2015 10:07am
littlewing said...
hi sorry bit confused about the red thumbs for the dice was looking on the north site and when you enter freestyle, wake and wave comes up with evo no 1 choice and dice second is it because the dice doesnt have a better range than the vegas? Seems to be marketed at all rounder

Calshave did you end up getting a new kite if so what was it and how did it go?


The only dice I have used were 2014, and they were terrible. They did this thing where the wing tips would fold in when you pop. And there was no pop. But this was 2 models ago now, I'm sure they have changed since then.
NSW, 884 posts
26 Oct 2015 12:06pm
New Ozone Enduro, or even C4 V6 which will have 5 line freestyle setup and bridles for freeride and allround, C4 will come with both when you buy it.
Enduro takes up where the current 2015 Cat finished, probably the best all rounder 3 strut kite Ozone ever made and I'm expecting the Enduro to continue the legacy. Both will be in shops within 6-7 weeks, C4 first, then Enduro....
4XL
4XL
VIC
222 posts
4XL 4XL
VIC, 222 posts
26 Oct 2015 2:20pm
Any pics of the Enduro . . ???
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