Best Ozone Storm kite?

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SkoonerJr
SkoonerJr
10 posts
10 posts
27 Sep 2011 12:08am
6m Reo or 6m Cat?

My next size up is a 8m C4 which I can ride in gusts up to 38/40 knots but its not really fun anymore, I weight 85 kgs.

I ride freestyle/freeride on large inland lakes but am really just looking for the most stable/solid little kite.

Suggestions?
toddws
toddws
WA
469 posts
WA, 469 posts
27 Sep 2011 8:17am
Hi SkoonerJr
Cat would be better for freestyle, flat and Reo in the waves.
The Reo is more stable and more responsive but only marginally so. But the Cat will boost better, and has more grunt.
I'm 92kg and have a 6m Cat as a storm flatwater kite.
But to be honest at those wind speeds and 85 kgs either kite will tick your boxes.
wishy
wishy
WA
1501 posts
WA, 1501 posts
27 Sep 2011 10:29am
I would love to try a 7m edge. Do they even exist?
Plummet
Plummet
4862 posts
4862 posts
27 Sep 2011 10:50am
i'm going for a 6m reo.

based on the fact that when i have 30+ knots i also have 4+ meters swell!.

but i haven't tried either so I can't offer any actual experience of the 2.

I'm also interest to know what the resident experts think.
AKSonline
AKSonline
WA
925 posts
WA, 925 posts
27 Sep 2011 10:58am
Hi Skoonerjr,

The Ozone for the job kinda depends on your needs at 30+ knots. I know for me I'd go the 7m Edge because at 35+ knots, there's not much else to do but boost MASSIVE, and if you're going to boost MASSIVE, then you need a good boosting kite. To borrow a line from the movies, "No sense bringing a knife to a gunfight"

If you are still freestylin' (you'd be a brave man) then perhaps the C4 in a 5 or even a 7m.

For less chaos, you could look at a Cat 6 which would be fun as an allrounder good for a bit of everything.

Reo 6m or 4m may be a good idea for stability but if not in waves, I'd lean more towards the Cat.

The Cat is the allrounder and sound as a pound in terms of usability in powered conditions.

DM
eppo
eppo
WA
9793 posts
WA, 9793 posts
27 Sep 2011 12:04pm
Damn I need an a 7m edge!!
Plummet
Plummet
4862 posts
4862 posts
27 Sep 2011 3:52pm
i want a 7m edge too. but for landboard speed runs... ahh but the wave kite wins out.
NSW, 4382 posts
27 Sep 2011 9:21pm
7M Edge exists for sure, they are an amazing kite, and if you know how to boost and have the nerve, the go huge.
The Tuesday after the Nats this year at Alva the spot was almost desrted except for a few riders that had stayed around, I remember clearly getting one boost on the 9M Edge in approx 30-33 knots and I was above the kite of an oncoming rider and landed so far from where I took off it blew my mind. Everyone that tried it at a recent Kitesurfari trip loved it too. Ozone Edge, mmmmm but in saying that, the C4 is a very nice ride too and on any given day it would be a hard choice for me to make between them.
NickT
NickT
WA
1094 posts
WA, 1094 posts
27 Sep 2011 8:05pm
No kite is "fun" in 40kts, the stakes get higher and it's a calculated risk when you do send it. 8m C4 should be fine at your weight, from when I've flown them if you park and edge against it you should be able to hold a lot of wind. Maybe you need to edge harder.
GutterMouth
GutterMouth
NSW
26 posts
NSW, 26 posts
27 Sep 2011 11:46pm
I have a 6m xc light

class
had it out in 45knots and it was epic :)
SkoonerJr
SkoonerJr
10 posts
10 posts
27 Sep 2011 11:08pm
Thanks for all the replies!

My buddy has a 7m Edge and it's powerful!!! My 8m C4 is way more comfy in big winds.... Maybe a 5m Edge if there was such a beast.

The last time I took my 8m C4 out overpowered people where on 4.5m RPM's, 5.5m Nomads and the odd 6m Switchblade with the heavier crew.

I found a used 6m Light XC but can get a new 6m Cat for almost the same price.
Plummet
Plummet
4862 posts
4862 posts
28 Sep 2011 6:05am
NickT said...

No kite is "fun" in 40kts, the stakes get higher and it's a calculated risk when you do send it. 8m C4 should be fine at your weight, from when I've flown them if you park and edge against it you should be able to hold a lot of wind. Maybe you need to edge harder.


I've had the most insane fun in conditions gusting past 40 knots.

yes the risk is high but so is the reward.
NickT
NickT
WA
1094 posts
WA, 1094 posts
28 Sep 2011 6:31am
Yeah I've had "fun" in 40kts too, but whenever i'm driving to the beach and see the conditions are 35+ I get really nervous, rig up slower, check my gear thoroughly, double check my lines and connections.

(had to self launch in 35+ once before a mate showed, think i checked the lines three times and hand on the QR was definately on high alert!).

And just remember when it is 40kts, your sending your kite as hard as it goes and someone is videoing the session. Make sure they turn the damn thing on.

NickW i'll video you next front on your new 7m edge
getfunky
getfunky
WA
4485 posts
WA, 4485 posts
28 Sep 2011 11:22am
NickT said...

Yeah I've had "fun" in 40kts too, but whenever i'm driving to the beach and see the conditions are 35+ I get really nervous, rig up slower, check my gear thoroughly, double check my lines and connections.

(had to self launch in 35+ once before a mate showed, think i checked the lines three times and hand on the QR was definately on high alert!).
And just remember when it is 40kts, your sending your kite as hard as it goes and someone is videoing the session. Make sure they turn the damn thing on.

NickW i'll video you next front on your new 7m edge




VERY good advice there NT.

For what it's worth I have a 2011 10m Cat and have only used it so far in the winter rollercoaster winds.

I found the 10m Cat's power pretty underwhelming for it's size but have been very happy with it's top end and good behaviour in punchy, gusty frontal/winter winds full of holes.

Had one luff when on full depower and fully sheeted out but now know just to keep a little bit of bar pressure there and no probs.

Have been on the water with some very gnarly fronts (gusting 30.. maybe +30 knots) coming through (sometimes it is better to head out a bit further - rather than get caught on the shore trying to get in too late) and have been super stoked at riding them out with the 10m Cat.

BTW, I'm not suggesting that anyone head out in 30kts on a 10m Cat - just my exp.

6m Cat would be a super fun beast in +30 kts I reckon!

Not for the noobs tho - lets be clear on that.
SkoonerJr
SkoonerJr
10 posts
10 posts
5 Oct 2011 11:31pm
Well now I'm not sure what I'm going to do, my 8m C4 got eaten by a tree yesterday....looks like my quiver options are limitless now.

Ozone better look hard at there new chicken loop cause the old one has a tendancy to half fall off when the donkey dick is even in, during launch. Then when you bring the kite into the power zone, boom your unhooked.

I've been kiting 10 years on alot of different gear and this is the only one I've had issues with, I think SS had a similar problem a few years back.
massterb
massterb
13 posts
13 posts
6 Oct 2011 3:05am
SkoonerJr said...

Ozone better look hard at there new chicken loop cause the old one has a tendancy to half fall off when the donkey dick is even in, during launch. Then when you bring the kite into the power zone, boom your unhooked.



this is clearly pilot error, not a chicken loop design issue. maybe SkoonerJr better look hard at his own technique and keep tension on his loop during launch.
SkoonerJr
SkoonerJr
10 posts
10 posts
6 Oct 2011 5:39am
I agree it was somewhat of a pilot issue....but I have noticed kites with the donkey dick in the middle have less tendancy to fall off.

The Donkeys that come off the side of the CLoop fall off easier to the one side.

Maybe I'm just mad that my kite is almost ripped in half, no big deal its just a kite.

I did have to change my "technique" how I hooked back in after unhooked tricks cause the Cloop would open in my hand.
djdojo
djdojo
VIC
1614 posts
VIC, 1614 posts
6 Oct 2011 10:57am
Hi there SkoonerJr, sorry to hear about your 8m. As you say, your options are now wide open. Still, I'd be looking for a consistent quiver and as the C4s are so stable, maybe a 7 for your storm kite. I reckon that a 7m C4 would have more top end than a 6m REO or Catalyst.

I haven't ridden a 7m Edge, but in the medium sizes they are very stable, but a very different feel to the C4s. You'd have to demo to see which you prefer.

C4s are more my cup of tea, and 7, 9, 12 would be an awesome quiver. Still, at the other end of the spectrum I may add a 15m Edge if our forecast for summer continues to be marginal; there's no arguing with their efficiency and upwind ability!

Good luck deciding!
Puetz
Puetz
NT
2186 posts
NT, 2186 posts
6 Oct 2011 10:46am
SkoonerJr said...

Well now I'm not sure what I'm going to do, my 8m C4 got eaten by a tree yesterday....looks like my quiver options are limitless now.

Ozone better look hard at there new chicken loop cause the old one has a tendancy to half fall off when the donkey dick is even in, during launch. Then when you bring the kite into the power zone, boom your unhooked.

I've been kiting 10 years on alot of different gear and this is the only one I've had issues with, I think SS had a similar problem a few years back.



... yep, not just Ozone, it seemed to happen alot on our 2009 - 2010 North bars too. Haven't had anything with the 2011 - 2012,,, yet, for some reason.

Once, minding my own buisness and about to enter Hell's Gates in Gerro WA, just about to get onto a wave out the back when boom, the bar flew away from me. I'd been out for about 2 hours at that stage and I never unhook, I actually thought I'd broken the chicken loop. I lay in the water with kite just infront the impact zone. Lucky for me in my flurry I put the chicken loop back on my harness and the kite almost relaunched itself, lucky for me, it flew up and just got missed by a nice big wave breaking.

Anyway, I figured it was a donkey dick length thing. When you get the kite low and at the edge of the window but your facing away from it ie riding waves, the donkey dick straightens up and sits free. When you bring the kite back up the loop changes its position and the donkey dick sticks itself into you stomache, bending the further you bring the kite up to 12 o'clock. Then to get a burst of power you pull the bar in which releases some power off the chicken loop and the donkely dick straightens up and unhooks the loop from the hook, then the bar flys away from you. Same thing can happen when your self launching a little quickly or aggressively. Thats my little theory anyway.

cheers,

Robbie

djdojo
djdojo
VIC
1614 posts
VIC, 1614 posts
6 Oct 2011 4:28pm
"not just Ozone." Um, not Ozone at all. Since switching to Ozone I've paid no more attention to my chickenloop than I did on any previous kites (not much attention at all) and have had zero problems.

The current Ozone bar, linesets, and chickenloop are ultra functional, streamlined and user-friendly.
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