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Originally posted by dan OK?
Bloody hell I am a such a sucker for these discussions..

Never surprises me how much peta information is propaganda then again their doctrine isn’t about welfare of animals it’s ultimately about freedom of animals... guard dogs for the blind is inhumane in their eyes (get it? in their eyes!

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Anyhow I wouldn’t use their media information - Toni Collette and Pink both ended up rescinding their condemnation of mulesing do to the facts they received from peta were so off the mark. Bit like that video actually

You do know it’s been documented at least one instance (that I know of) of video footage about the Australian meat industry that turned out the livestock wasn’t even of Australian origin. Which essentially I would have to guess was your point. Japs versus Australian animal right ethnics…..
Ceremonial killing.. This happens in Australia still by muslin butchers. Throats cut with sheep pointing to Mecca this isnt on ceremonial special occasions but all the time.. sadly that’s never going to change.. it’s a religious thing.
Don’t think anyone is saying its ok for animals of any species to die slow painful deaths.. that’s a typical emotive comeback from the bandy brigade – They also get easy on the eye girls to dress as little ho peeps. The fact of the matter is the live trade industry has been evolving over time and continues too improve in animal welfare – those deaths cost the industry money so from an economical argument its in the industry interest for the animals to survive the trips – after saying that, there will always be problems – ships break downs and poor form by countries of destination. Though to somehow align the live trade with those dolphins in that video from my perspective seems jilted if not slightly ignorant. BTW i so happen to farm cows

And I eat tin tuna which probably has some dolphin in it so perhaps to you I am not such a hypocrite.
Anyhow what has this got to do with kiting? … shouldn’t it be in the general section of the forum.