Blue bottles and hot water

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IanR
IanR
NSW
1360 posts
NSW, 1360 posts
8 Sep 2007 7:12pm
I've just got back from Wanda this afternoon and there where Thousands of blue bottles on the beach. I have been out for a couple of hour session and have a fair amount of stings on my feet and calves. Hot water is the go for relieving the sting. Had a shower as hot as I could stand and the pain gone has from my calves and the feet tingle just a little
kitecrazzzy
kitecrazzzy
WA
2184 posts
WA, 2184 posts
8 Sep 2007 6:08pm
be a hobo and not wear shoes as much as you can and you can step on them and feel nothing other than a strange numbness. getting them wrapped around your lags and feet kiting sucks arse though and i once got a big one stuck all over and down my bindings
Barnzy
Barnzy
NSW
25 posts
NSW, 25 posts
8 Sep 2007 9:28pm
Twas the same in the north Ian, Longy was all bluebottles with a bit of sea in between!!
GalahOnTheBay
GalahOnTheBay
NSW
4188 posts
NSW, 4188 posts
9 Sep 2007 12:16pm
yep - the hotter the water the better - it denatures the toxin making it less itchy and hurty
wdric
wdric
NSW
1625 posts
NSW, 1625 posts
9 Sep 2007 12:28pm
I think the lifgaurds at Nobby's in Newcastle have done some testing a while back and about 40deg is the best temp for both the patient and stings
KDA
KDA
NSW
36 posts
KDA KDA
NSW, 36 posts
9 Sep 2007 8:55pm
HOT water seems to be the way to go, even at the emergency ward at hospitals, i took a jab in my heel from a sting ray instantly the pain went away, the docs said it breaks down the toxins. they said hot water is best suited for both blue bottle and ray stings. (might be good to have a 12v car kettle with you?)
fob
fob
WA
89 posts
fob fob
WA, 89 posts
9 Sep 2007 7:40pm
i heard WA bluebottles are weak sh1 t compared to east coast ones KC
GranG
GranG
WA
260 posts
WA, 260 posts
9 Sep 2007 7:43pm
anti-histamine helps if you have a mild allergy... I keep a packet in my car. (Mild allergy - your lymph glands become painful)

According to some reading I did a while ago:
* Poison levels vary from blue bottle "waves" (i.e. the lot next week may be a lot more poisonous)

* Do not rub with sand (common myth)

* Rinse with plenty of fresh water (not ocean)

* do not urinate on it (some people believe in this) -- actually releases more poison

hot water is good - do not rub, just rinse & soak...
Mr float
Mr float
NSW
3452 posts
NSW, 3452 posts
9 Sep 2007 10:44pm
Yep hot water is the go .Forget anything else that grandma or whoever said .last summer i copped one around the neck and started choking .The lifeguards at dicko shoved me in the hot (and I mean frikkein hot ) shower for 10 mins and i was back out there.(thanks guys)I couldn't believe the result.
Basically i jumped in and had a bit of cold on and they made me turn the cold all the way off .

A big thanks to Conrad local hanglider/paraglider ,kitesurfer who did alot of research on this and self inflicted stinging

IanR
IanR
NSW
1360 posts
NSW, 1360 posts
9 Sep 2007 11:21pm
Yep Hot water is the go. The sting did return after half and hour but much milder. All my friends who where out agreed. One who is susceptible to allergies is still rubbing antihistamine cream on the tracks. I have no marks. All of us had sore glands either armpit or groin today.

The worst I've been stung was in RSA when I body boarded pushed though a wave and had five wrapped around my head and chest and had no wetsuit on. Got heart palpitations and thought I was going to die
IanR
IanR
NSW
1360 posts
NSW, 1360 posts
9 Sep 2007 11:47pm
PS Fob
I disagree India ocean blue bottles are way nastier than paciific blue bottles in my opiinion. One of my fiends called them claytons blue bottles cause he sailed for an hour and only got stung once and there where thousands out in the water and on the beach. He did complained of a sore groin though today
kitebored
kitebored
NSW
593 posts
NSW, 593 posts
10 Sep 2007 1:32pm
yeh, make sure u test the water with something other than the affected bit of skin so you don't burn yourself.. easy to do when it hurts anyway
SurfConnect
SurfConnect
QLD
1674 posts
QLD, 1674 posts
18 Sep 2007 7:55am
We use ice packs for blue bottles sting. Wash off/pick whatever is stuck on the skin with your fingers (they cant sting your fingers). Keep ice on for no more than 15-20min max at a time. Monitor breathing as some people react more vigorously than others. We normally only use hot water for spine stings.

Dang- they are back in Brissy too - bluebottles and blubbers :(
kitebored
kitebored
NSW
593 posts
NSW, 593 posts
18 Sep 2007 2:07pm
quote:
Originally posted by padi

(they cant sting your fingers



I've been stung on the fingers before.. its not as bad but the big ones can still get you.. especially if they wrap around when your floating around trying to get them off..
SurfConnect
SurfConnect
QLD
1674 posts
QLD, 1674 posts
18 Sep 2007 2:43pm
The pads of your fingers are thick-skinned and only a harmless prickling may be felt. You only pick them off when you are out of the water. Try washing the remaining tentacles off with seawater first.



quote:
Originally posted by kitebored

quote:
Originally posted by padi

(they cant sting your fingers



I've been stung on the fingers before.. its not as bad but the big ones can still get you.. especially if they wrap around when your floating around trying to get them off..

eightfootplus
eightfootplus
NSW
298 posts
NSW, 298 posts
18 Sep 2007 11:12pm
A pain releaving hemaroid cream works . Keep a tube in my gear bag just in case
jquigley
jquigley
WA
205 posts
WA, 205 posts
18 Sep 2007 9:29pm
You can pick the tentacles off with your fingertips and not feel a thing.......until you go to do the saltwater sinus purge and drag the little blighters over the nostrils....ow..ow..ow!!

em
em
318 posts
em em
318 posts
19 Sep 2007 7:06am
quote:
Originally posted by jquigley

You can pick the tentacles off with your fingertips and not feel a thing.......until you go to do the saltwater sinus purge and drag the little blighters over the nostrils....ow..ow..ow!!




always makes me feel better to find out I'm not the only one who's got brilliant ideas every so and then!
Hot bath. Dip in 20mn and all sorted....
Other option is preventing: they don't sting either through neoprene nor lycra, so wear a long protecting clothing when you know they're out...
dave......
dave......
WA
2119 posts
WA, 2119 posts
19 Sep 2007 8:21am
A few of us got stung up north a few years ago. Used Coke. The acid in this tasty beverage didnt work as good as hot water but the bubbles felt soothing
NJPornstar
NJPornstar
WA
790 posts
WA, 790 posts
19 Sep 2007 9:57am
I got one of those manowars on my foot and it felt like I had a just recieved a swift kick to the crutch. Lasted 2 hours.
INfiniDIE
INfiniDIE
WA
478 posts
WA, 478 posts
19 Sep 2007 10:05am
Ive been stung by a lot of those bloody little irukandji in North Queensland...stingers are sposed to be very painful, all i did was endure it...and vinegar is used to neutralize the posion. Chopper reed says Harden the F*ck up australia!
Zanzibar
Zanzibar
VIC
19 posts
VIC, 19 posts
21 Sep 2007 9:14am
Medical research carried out in Australia in 2006 proved conclusively that treatment of blue bottle stings with hot water (45 degrees) was much more efficient in relieving pain than cold water and or ice packs. Posts above indicating that they are still treating with ice packs should refer to latest recommendations.
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