Your first question on how quick does the gear go... Use some logic now. If it's priced well it'll go quicker, if it's not it'll go slower. It's far too variable to give any opinion on. Old ads may still be avaliable whereas new ads might not be. Best thing is to just contact the seller.....

Tips on second hand scene: don't be afraid to buy repaired kites.

campatrol said...


with regards to repaired kites where do you draw the line of should i buy it or shouldnt I?
couple of patches or if theres big as repairs? sort of thing.
or do the pro repairs come out like new?
thanks for the reply
cheers cam

A repair is always stronger than the original kite where it was repaired. A lot of little repairs is probably worse than one big one, it would indicate to me that the kite is more worn out in general, whereas one big one might be one particular accident, and the kite as a whole is still in pretty good nick.

bentobox said...

the incredibly steep listing fees.

Free is too steep for you? I've sold kites here with the free ads at a reasonable price and got a buyer in a timely fashion. YMMV...

edit: I have no financial interest in the website either. This moderator gig is for the fun of it alone. Just calling it how I see it on the classifieds.

bentobox said...

Selling is quite difficult unless you're practically giving the kites away, not too mention the incredibly steep listing fees. I would welcome an alternative that caters for the kitesurfing demographic, yet doesn't demand exorbitant listing fees. There also seems to be loads of tyre kickers around. Im giving an eBay a go to help me move my barely used 2012 kites, which are listed on here at quite a reasonable price.

14 bucks on seabreeze is too steep?

Move over to Gumtree Nat. Your better suited there.

NoBS said...

14 bucks on seabreeze is too steep?

Move over to Gumtree Nat. Your better suited there.

Hi Derick, I think you intended to say "you're better suited"; but that little grammar tip can be for free.
Let me help you out here in understanding some simple e-commerce. Every page on Seabreeze has a form of advertising. When you combine the revenue generated from both the cost of your personal advertisement and from the site sponsors etc, you quickly realise someone (Seabreeze) is being greedy and is effectively double dipping. In the UK, similar sites offer the same service but for free. As no listing fee attracts a higher volume of users, more page impressions, more clicks on banners and ultimately more revenue for the website proprietors. Anyway I'm sure all of this is going over your head, so I'll just say yes, I have listed my items on Gumtree, and disappointingly I've had an equal number of enquiries from an ad that cost me $0 compared to one that cost me $14.

bentobox said...

NoBS said...

14 bucks on seabreeze is too steep?

Move over to Gumtree Nat. Your better suited there.

Hi Derick, I think you intended to say "you're better suited"; but that little grammar tip can be for free.
Let me help you out he
re in understanding some simple e-commerce. Every page on Seabreeze has a
form of advertising. When you combine the revenue generated from both the cost of your personal
advertisement and from the site sponsors etc, you quickly realise someone (Seabreeze) is being
greedy and is effectively double dipping. In the UK, similar sites offer the same service but for free. As no listing fee attracts a higher volume of users, more page impressions, more clicks on banners and ultimately more revenue for the website proprietors. Anyway I'm sure all of this is going over your head, so I'll just say yes, I have listed my items on Gumtree, and disappointingly I've had an equal number of enquiries from an ad that cost me $0 compared to one that cost me $14.

After having a look at your add it actually has been viewed over 2200 times. Maybe your gear is not wanted or overpriced. I know you probably think its worth more but obviously its not hence 2200 views and its still for sale.

LF gear never resells well. If you want a quick sale drop it to 900 and it will go within 2 days i think. I wouldnt pay that though as LF isn't my flavour of choice for many reasons.

bentobox said...

.....Let me help you out here in understanding some simple e-commerce. Every page on Seabreeze has a form of advertising. When you combine the revenue generated from both the cost of your personal advertisement and from the site sponsors etc, you quickly realise (someone (Seabreeze) is being greedy and is effectively double dipping. .

Bentobox, the above is your opinion and you are entitled to have it.
That someone you refer to would be Laurie. I have seen Laurie be generous to seabreezers (even some one he doesn't know) and then politely decline any offer to thank him publicly for it. To me, that is good karma in the bank. If I was selling gear I would happily pay more to advertise in seabreeze than other online options. I would just consider it repaying a little karma.

As for how much a kite is worth, it is worth what someone else will pay for it. The market will set the price.

Good luck & go in peace

It really is a buyers market when it comes to secondhand kite gear. There are so many people that just have to have the latest gear which means the second hand market is saturated with there old kit. Not sure how to see just how many kites are for sale on here but WA, Qld, and NSW all have 200+ . That could mean 201 or 500, who knows. Its a safe bet to estimate there are more than 1000 kites for sale on here at any given time. Sure there not all 2012 in A1 condition but there are some genuine bargains that just don't move because supply outweighs demand. Some of my mates have kites listed 1 or 2 seasons old that they cant give away. You will have no problem finding what you are after. Just be sure that you or a trusted person checks it over before you buy as some one's idea of AS NEW may not be yours. Also a lot of shops advertise gear on hear as well and if your buying site unseen this may be the way to go as a lot of them guarantee that if your not happy with the condition of the gear you've purchased they will refund your money. Good luck with your hunting.

I see what you mean theres tones for sale.
each time I look theres different adds at the top or updated ones.
Its good for us poor people looking for a bargin


I had a look at the ex trainning kites on here also.
theres a lot to choose from and they look like some nice kites
I guess they turn them over on a regular basis.

couple of cartons is sounds good
but i'll take your word of being long in the tooth hahaha.
I can see why now people have a whole collection of kites in the back of the car.
even if they aint new.
cheers cam

eppo said...

From a sellers point of view ( mine) and price. I wanted to sell my gear quickly, three boards and two kites. I looked at the market value as per other adds and undercut them by a fair margin.

Paid the price to have plenty of pictures and sold gear within a week.

A targeted market, marketed properly and priced well gear will go fast.

Brilliant service. I have no idea what the complaint going on above is all about. It's complete bullsh1t, and yet his opinion is allowed and respected and did I say complete bullsh1t.

First kite a repair done professionally ( ask by whom) why not you will and crash your first kite anyhow.

Lastly as you said get lessons.

I havent sold anything on here but $14 sounds pretty cheap compared to other sites like trading post etc or carsales like 40 bucks.

I wont be my first kite so to speak but it will be my first pump up one.
So yep a lesson or two depending on how well it all goes and what I get through
with questions etc.
As being a self taught lad myself
Its always good to keep up with the new saftey issues and rules etc.
im no pro by any means just a happy once or twice a year cruiser.
stay out of peoples way and just cruise along and go home happy.

I never knew about any of the rules for Vic untill i jummped on the forum the other week.
At the start about 10 years ago I googled a howto thing and printed it out and sat on the beach going from start to finish lesson by lesson lol
and learnt the etequite through that and a lot of common sense curtisey of staying out the way of others.

looking forward to it

Selling on SeaBreeze is by far the best way to sell your 2nd hand gear. If you are realistic in your asking price, your gear will get plenty exposure to anyone who is qualified to buy it and it will move quickly with minimal hassle.

And pay the $14 for the picture/premium ad. IT WORKS.

As someone who has your bout a load of kit of Seabreeze, I can recommend it as long as you are sensible. I got a couple of kite and a harness, and was very happy with how it all turned out. Can't wait to go use them!

iRideWainman said...

poor relative said...


I wouldn't consider $1100 for a 2nd hand LF kite a good deal. I'd put the 12 at 1000 and the 9m at 900.

Maintaining integrity of both the brand and the industry shouldn't be overlooked. It was like when Switch kites went online. How pissed were the kite stores who were getting undercut? Selling gear dirt cheap devalues the brand. I've got a mint condition 8m 2011 RPM, arguably better than LF gear, but I can't sell it. I believe it doesnt help when you got these fly by night sellers selling 'unused' 12's and 14 for a $1000 bucks!

Maintaining integrity of both the brand and the industry shouldn't be overlooked...

yeh that's what the average punter is thinking about when they want to sell their gear!! Seriously