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Uber
Uber
NSW
482 posts
NSW, 482 posts
16 Oct 2006 10:56am

NSWKBA - South Side Season Opener Sat 21st OCT
Join us for a free BBQ~~~~ALL WELCOME!!!
Details
Dolls Point @ 12noon (Grassy Area)

Discuss with other members new products, safety, hints and tips, local issues.

Come along and meet friendly kiters and be part of a great community.

If you can please post here if you can come so we can cater accordingly!

JOIN NSWKBA ON THE DAY - Get Insured and be part of a great community
waveslave
waveslave
WA
4263 posts
WA, 4263 posts
16 Oct 2006 11:51am
quote:
Originally posted by Kitepower Australia
I'm absolutely sure that asking for signage will be the beggining of the end, but if the majority of kiters want signs, I won't fight them.


Signs are ugly man-made eye-sores that smear our natural beach environment.
Signs have no soul.
Signs are just more evidence of stupid over-regulation in Australia.
Signs are visual pollution.
Signs are sharp hazards that rip you kite and cut your throat.
Signs are a waste of tax-payers money.
Signs are canvasses for kids to tag and graffiti-up.

The Sign will turn the cool niche sport of kiting into a regulated suburban joy-ride activity,
confined to some god-forsaken windless backwater zone.
Signs suck.

Maybe 'Guidelines for Kiting Dolls' can be screenprinted on the back of the beach marshalls t-shirt.
Rule 1....No calling newbies 'neophytes'!

Carry on.
NSW, 4382 posts
17 Oct 2006 8:35am
Yep Uber, this Saturday, in the carpark Southside of the groin.
Kitepower will have demo kites available from all the leading brands.
Boards too.
The Barby is full of gas, there will be free food and drinks, and beers afterwards/later.
Come and check out the new gear, get your gear checked for free.
Discuss anything to do with safety, tuning, formation of the new South side club.
Southerly winds predicted, maybe a shower, but the wind should be in the 15-25 range.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve McCormack


quote:
Originally posted by Uber


NSWKBA - South Side Season Opener Sat 21st OCT
Join us for a free BBQ~~~~ALL WELCOME!!!
Details
Dolls Point @ 12noon (Grassy Area)

Discuss with other members new products, safety, hints and tips, local issues.

Come along and meet friendly kiters and be part of a great community.

If you can please post here if you can come so we can cater accordingly!

JOIN NSWKBA ON THE DAY - Get Insured and be part of a great community

Arthur
Arthur
NSW
4 posts
NSW, 4 posts
23 Oct 2006 4:47am
quote:
Originally posted by waveslaveI'll tell ya what's crazy.
Steve is crazy, he freely admits it! lol
I shouldn't laugh....hehehe

Unsustainable growth of kitesurfing on our public beaches is crazy.
Foolishly attempting to mutate a cool niche sport like kiting,
into something resembling flies sitting on a turd.....is crazy.

A sport that really should remain totally obscure for reasons of pure survival,
is now under threat of being force-fed into popular suburban culture and eventual extinction.
[Cause of Death....SUPER-SIZED to hell.]

Overhype-ing by the shopkeepers and overtraining by the gurus will kill the beast.
While the bow-kiter school zoo shame-walks up the beach at snail pace,
all in single-file and kites raised @ 12 o'clock high,
the professional newbie signs up for the instructors course after clocking-up the mandadory 6 months experience.
(about 25 kite sessions).

The kitesurfing machine cranks away at full steam ahead.
Newbies are coming off the production-line like cookies out of the cutter.
Public beach-goers are running for cover.

The faster you fatten the pig,
The sooner it goes to market.
lol
Enjoy.



im hoping to get into the sport soon.
since young ive always wanted to wakeboard
but that means relying on someone else to tow me.
kitesurf seems like the better alt,
seems alot better actually.

ive only seen kitesurfing on tv twice in about
4 years, so i dont know what hype your talking about.
i dont think theres as much hype as you make out

and it wasnt the stores that made me want to give it a go,
i'd never seen a kiteboarding store before.

i didnt even know kitepower existed until
i came online to look for a trainer kite
and id rather get into the sport from a specialized store that
would be willing to help me out
rather than simply buying a kite from the trading post
and heading out there without any knowledge of the sport

everything grows
half my mates went and bought motorbikes after
seeing how much i enjoy going for a ride on a nice day

its just the way things are mate

i see what your saying and understand where your comming from
but new people like me are always going to be comming into the
sport.

anyway sorry about going off topic

NSW, 4382 posts
23 Oct 2006 8:09am
Well said Arthur!

The sport grows because we do it, people see wavey, you, me and every other kiter and they get inspired to try it.
Many of us now don't beleive in excessive promotion of this sport, those who are attracted to it will find it, simply because the rest of us do it.

It is a pointless pursuit to focus on any single part of this sport and blame it for all the problems. The entire sport, including all the manufacturers, shops, car boot sellers, team riders, everyday kiters, etc are invloved in a singular activity.

Some folks like waveyslavey and another unmentionable banned alterego focus on the negative and try to be divisive, simply because it is their opportunity to crusade, to be on their self made, self important soapbox, imagining they are outside of the issue, and everyone else is the problem.

Rather than be positive, and inclusive, and create something attractive that draws the issue into dissolution through cooperation and tolerance.

Its easy to see a bigger, and happier picture, if one stops focussing on the negative.
Thats not saying be complacent, just be aware, and the solutions often just happen with a little help from friends.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve McCormack
waveslave
waveslave
WA
4263 posts
WA, 4263 posts
23 Oct 2006 7:32am
quote:
Originally posted by Arthur

quote:
Originally posted by waveslaveI'll tell ya what's crazy.
Steve is crazy, he freely admits it! lol
I shouldn't laugh....hehehe

Unsustainable growth of kitesurfing on our public beaches is crazy.
Foolishly attempting to mutate a cool niche sport like kiting,
into something resembling flies sitting on a turd.....is crazy.

A sport that really should remain totally obscure for reasons of pure survival,
is now under threat of being force-fed into popular suburban culture and eventual extinction.
[Cause of Death....SUPER-SIZED to hell.]

Overhype-ing by the shopkeepers and overtraining by the gurus will kill the beast.
While the bow-kiter school zoo shame-walks up the beach at snail pace,
all in single-file and kites raised @ 12 o'clock high,
the professional newbie signs up for the instructors course after clocking-up the mandadory 6 months experience.
(about 25 kite sessions).

The kitesurfing machine cranks away at full steam ahead.
Newbies are coming off the production-line like cookies out of the cutter.
Public beach-goers are running for cover.

The faster you fatten the pig,
The sooner it goes to market.
lol
Enjoy.



im hoping to get into the sport soon.
since young ive always wanted to wakeboard
but that means relying on someone else to tow me.
kitesurf seems like the better alt,
seems alot better actually.

ive only seen kitesurfing on tv twice in about
4 years, so i dont know what hype your talking about.
i dont think theres as much hype as you make out

and it wasnt the stores that made me want to give it a go,
i'd never seen a kiteboarding store before.

i didnt even know kitepower existed until
i came online to look for a trainer kite
and id rather get into the sport from a specialized store that
would be willing to help me out
rather than simply buying a kite from the trading post
and heading out there without any knowledge of the sport

everything grows
half my mates went and bought motorbikes after
seeing how much i enjoy going for a ride on a nice day

its just the way things are mate

i see what your saying and understand where your comming from
but new people like me are always going to be comming into the
sport.

anyway sorry about going off topic





lol
More self-promotion and hype from the shopkeeper.
Kitepower = Arthur
You're so transparent Steve, oops, I mean Arthur. hehehe

When are you going to post the cooked-up minutes from your club meeting ?
The Botany Bay Boosters.

I'm waiting.
elliot
elliot
NSW
22 posts
NSW, 22 posts
23 Oct 2006 12:20pm
Seems to me some people are so concerned about being cool & niche that they don't want anyone else to have any fun
eightfootplus
eightfootplus
NSW
298 posts
NSW, 298 posts
23 Oct 2006 11:03pm
F@ck I just wrote the long reply and then lost it all,

The council will not ban kiting if we only kill and mame ourselves, rock fishing is the most dangerous sport in this country by far.

So kiters just have to remove the risk of hurting the public.



But no signs are required, Signs ugly and somewhat uncool

But a nice big wind sock with a plaque mounted on the pole. The pole could also have a wind meter and some met gear so kiters can see the actual wind speed.Also the history of kite surfing in the area. The plaque could have the local rules and say someting like " donated to people of Dolls Point by the BBKC " . And the windsock could be sponsored by a local kite company or perhaps a kite manufacturer.

Local rules like.

1) know your gear and your limitations
2) dont jump close to shore
3) launch and land to the sea
4) wear a leash
5) offenders will be severly beaten around the head and body.

So all we need to work out is how to enforce the rules.

Surfers ruthlessly verbally abuse, and sometime bash , others until the follow the rules, and it does work. Sailors will ram other boats if they dont give way to starboard, and that works too.

So the real question is how are kiters going to enforce the rules?

But I can see physical violence working, I mean who would be intimidated by some guy with board shorts over his wetty


eightfootplus
eightfootplus
NSW
298 posts
NSW, 298 posts
23 Oct 2006 11:14pm
quote:
Originally posted by eightfootplus

F@ck I just wrote the long reply and then lost it all,

The council will not ban kiting if we only kill and mame ourselves, rock fishing is the most dangerous sport in this country by far.

So kiters just have to remove the risk of hurting the public.



But no signs are required, Signs ugly and somewhat uncool

But a nice big wind sock with a plaque mounted on the pole. The pole could also have a wind meter and some met gear so kiters can see the actual wind speed.Also the history of kite surfing in the area. The plaque could have the local rules and say someting like " donated to people of Dolls Point by the BBKC " . And the windsock could be sponsored by a local kite company or perhaps a kite manufacturer.

Local rules like.

1) know your gear and your limitations
2) dont jump close to shore
3) launch and land to the sea
4) wear a leash
5) offenders will be severly beaten around the head and body, with their own bar and line set.

So all we need to work out is how to enforce the rules.

Surfers ruthlessly verbally abuse, and sometime bash , others until the follow the rules, and it does work. Sailors will ram other boats if they dont give way to starboard, and that works too.

So the real question is how are kiters going to enforce the rules?

But I can see physical violence working, I mean who would be intimidated by some guy with board shorts over his wetty




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