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jan

1119 posts

jan

WA, 1119 posts

23 Oct 2007 8:56pm

thx neil
www.abc.net.au/radio/perth/ click on the poll on the right hand side about half way down ;)

posko

179 posts

posko

WA, 179 posts

23 Oct 2007 9:02pm

crazy... why would 57% of WA people not be looking foward to having an extra hour of daylight after work to either play with their kids, kite, do sport, enjoy the many great attractions of the state...

I have done a lot of traveling over the last 12 yrs and every where you go that has daylight savings embraces it with 2 hands... why are WA folk so against it...?

confused

sci

762 posts

sci

WA, 762 posts

23 Oct 2007 9:25pm

It is ridiculous... something to do with getting the kids to bed and farmers working at the hottest part of the day! Probably more to with those freakish morning people that walk their dogs at 05:00am. All i care about is being able to go kiting after a day of sitting in the office! It is our reward for working enslaving ourselves to the 8-6. I am from the UK and it gets dark at 11:00pm in the summer!

Trem

49 posts

Trem

WA, 49 posts

23 Oct 2007 10:13pm

Ohh man DLS just must be made an 'every year' thing, only way to get mid week kite fix for us office bound suckers. If it gets dumped in the referendum I will be looking for a new career, or a new state to live in - but the wind is sooo good here....have to be new career.

kitecrazzzy

2184 posts

kitecrazzzy

WA, 2184 posts

23 Oct 2007 10:25pm

it makes the day way too long if you start it at 5:30.
I dont care about the sunrise being later but most of the other people that i row with hate it, for most the time in the morning before the seabreeze is a lot nicer than having those nasty windy arvos

Why was there no one kiting at pt walter this morning, it was perfect conditions?

meerkat

644 posts

meerkat

WA, 644 posts

23 Oct 2007 10:28pm

WA people are not specifically against daylight saving, they are just against pretty much anything that involves change. "Its too much hassle", my work colleagues tell me? really? what changing all those digital clocks?

The backwards nature is what appeals about the state, but at the same time can be a right royal pain in the a..

desmond

72 posts

desmond

WA, 72 posts

23 Oct 2007 11:23pm

I remember hearing some Old lady saying "I hate daylight savings The extra hour of daylight is going to fade my curtains!"

You just can't argue with that logic

I say bring on the extra hour

Stuart Andrews

23 posts

Stuart Andrews

WA, 23 posts

24 Oct 2007 1:11am

it's great for kiters, my dad is totally against in though because he cycles in the morning before work. all depends on whether your a morning person or not

Dawn Patrol

1991 posts

Dawn Patrol

WA, 1991 posts

24 Oct 2007 8:31am

Its now 61% for no. i hope its yes for the referendum when it comes around.
Great, ill be able to vote by then.......
But it doesnt really effect me. It did this year cause i could kite after school, but school finised tomoro!YAY.

CAUTION

1097 posts

CAUTION

WA, 1097 posts

24 Oct 2007 8:35am

i ride in the mornings and what a pi$$ weak excuse! it is good cos it makes it cooler to train in the morning on the bike or if you run or walk or whatever.
And in regards to having to get out in the dark, we do it winter and dont complain, just leave your lights on ur bike.
too many whingers in this world...

bring it i say.
more time to do stuff, sleep is way over-rated.

Kitehard

2782 posts

Kitehard

WA, 2782 posts

24 Oct 2007 9:26am

It's now 62% against

Stop this insanity!

Good winds,

INfiniDIE

478 posts

INfiniDIE

WA, 478 posts

24 Oct 2007 9:46am

I know my dad hates it cause we go crayfishing in the morn, and we used to have a boat with no nav lights on it, so when it would usually be light we would go crayfishing. so Daylight savings made it hard cause he had to go to work, and the time was too close to go out at 6 when its light, then get back by 7.

But We have a new boat now so im pro summer time. working at a cafe on the beachside means more customers in the arvo=hence more work=more money=more kites. seems like logic to me

frant

VIC

1230 posts

frant

VIC, 1230 posts

24 Oct 2007 12:03pm

Infinidie I am not having a go at you but it seems that a comment like "DST is no good because we had a boat that had no navigation lights" is typical of those opposing DST...not terribly convincing and the rest of society should suffer as a result??? Thankfully you got a new boat then.

the gaz

173 posts

the gaz

WA, 173 posts

24 Oct 2007 10:25am

Poor old WA, hates the dullsville tag but won't move with the times. Daylight saving is a bit like the shop trading hours debate. It seems to work everywhere else but not here.
Good luck to those people who have time to cycle,swim or whatever in the morning, most of us have to go to work.
So bring on the extra hour in the arvo and those of us who work can enjoy the quality lifestyle perth offers for a little longer

Hammerhead

NSW

118 posts

Hammerhead

NSW, 118 posts

24 Oct 2007 1:10pm

You city slickers don't know the first thing about farming! With daylight savings how will the cows know what time to come in for milking? Also if the tractor breaks down and we need to get parts for it, the shops will close an hour earlier, hold on they will also open an hour earlier,hhmmmm.

Mr float

NSW

3452 posts

Mr float

NSW, 3452 posts

24 Oct 2007 1:38pm

sorry to sound like a boring fart but the way a question is worded and the timing of a poll can effect the outcome of a poll .For example this poll asks whether people are looking forward to it .At the moment most people say no (they are not being asked whether there should or should not be daylight saving,if that question was asked in a few weeks when people are used to it I'd say there would be a different outcome)
For me personally I am looking forward to the earlier start next year (beginning of OCT) because I am sick of the dog walkers going past my place at first light 4.45 am and setting my yappy dog off .However I am not looking forward to dragging my lazy teenage daughters out of bed an hour earlier for school next week as a result of daylight saving (we are getting them up 15 mins earlier each day this week to get them used to the idea)

Hope I make sense

sci

762 posts

sci

WA, 762 posts

24 Oct 2007 11:42am

quote:
Originally posted by Hammerhead

You city slickers don't know the first thing about farming! With daylight savings how will the cows know what time to come in for milking? Also if the tractor breaks down and we need to get parts for it, the shops will close an hour earlier, hold on they will also open an hour earlier,hhmmmm.

Cows dont really care! have you asked them? I am all of the against arguments I have ever heard are pathetic. Lifestyle and sanity is much more important in todays 'modern' society where we have to work more and play less!

sci

762 posts

sci

WA, 762 posts

24 Oct 2007 11:43am

quote:
Originally posted by Mr float

sorry to sound like a boring fart but the way a question is worded and the timing of a poll can effect the outcome of a poll .For example this poll asks whether people are looking forward to it .At the moment most people say no (they are not being asked whether there should or should not be daylight saving,if that question was asked in a few weeks when people are used to it I'd say there would be a different outcome)
For me personally I am looking forward to the earlier start next year (beginning of OCT) because I am sick of the dog walkers going past my place at first light 4.45 am and setting my yappy dog off .However I am not looking forward to dragging my lazy teenage daughters out of bed an hour earlier for school next week as a result of daylight saving (we are getting them up 15 mins earlier each day this week to get them used to the idea)

Hope I make sense

Lame...

Mr float

NSW

3452 posts

Mr float

NSW, 3452 posts

24 Oct 2007 2:03pm

I forgot to mention the demographic of the poll .It would be possible that alot of people getting on are retirees listening to the ABC and jumping on and having their say

My point is i wouldn't worry too much about this poll

quote:
Originally posted by Mr float

sorry to sound like a boring fart but the way a question is worded and the timing of a poll can effect the outcome of a poll .For example this poll asks whether people are looking forward to it .At the moment most people say no (they are not being asked whether there should or should not be daylight saving,if that question was asked in a few weeks when people are used to it I'd say there would be a different outcome)
For me personally I am looking forward to the earlier start next year (beginning of OCT) because I am sick of the dog walkers going past my place at first light 4.45 am and setting my yappy dog off .However I am not looking forward to dragging my lazy teenage daughters out of bed an hour earlier for school next week as a result of daylight saving (we are getting them up 15 mins earlier each day this week to get them used to the idea)

Hope I make sense

kiterdan

680 posts

kiterdan

WA, 680 posts

24 Oct 2007 12:32pm

I am currently working in a region where for the last 3 weeks its been 40 degrees...it gets to 50 in summer. Although I'm all for it, I'm not looking foward to working an extra hour in those ridiculous temperatures. Thank god I'm in the office.

It's all good when I'm back in Perth though!

I don't think it'll last past the trial period. Young people love it, old people hate change...we're a top heavy society unfortunately.

kitesurfin

43 posts

kitesurfin

WA, 43 posts

24 Oct 2007 5:12pm

bring on the extra hour!!!!!!

cheers Mitch

azza

1338 posts

azza

1338 posts

24 Oct 2007 5:51pm

Please note that the online poll is not, nor is it intended to be, statistically valid. It is simply a "straw poll", a method of gaining a rough idea of community feelings on any given topic.

Consequently the results should not be the subject of any serious interpretation or analysis.

This week's question:

Daylight saving kicks in this weekend. Are you looking forward to it?
Yes 34%
No 65%
Doesn't make much difference to me 1%
4160 votes counted

All this proves is that 2704 miserable people were otherwise bored of their own awful existence and happened to be browsing on the Internet.

Bring on day light savings baby!

frant

VIC

1230 posts

frant

VIC, 1230 posts

24 Oct 2007 7:53pm

quote:
Originally posted by kiterdan

I am currently working in a region where for the last 3 weeks its been 40 degrees...it gets to 50 in summer. Although I'm all for it, I'm not looking foward to working an extra hour in those ridiculous temperatures. Thank god I'm in the office.

It's all good when I'm back in Perth though!

I don't think it'll last past the trial period. Young people love it, old people hate change...we're a top heavy society unfortunately.

Wont you be working an hour less in the heat with DST ie you effectively start an hour earlier in the cool time and finish an hour earlier when its hot in the afternoon.

Kalavas

146 posts

Kalavas

WA, 146 posts

24 Oct 2007 6:46pm

quote:
Originally posted by Stuart Andrews

it's great for kiters, my dad is totally against in though because he cycles in the morning before work. all depends on whether your a morning person or not

I cycle to work and I'm in favour. What time does he leave, 5am?

-Mike

NeilT

139 posts

NeilT

WA, 139 posts

24 Oct 2007 8:41pm

Mr Float is quite right of course. The answer should only reflect the exact question although in this case it's generally as simple as FOR or AGAINST. I don't think there would be many kitesurfers who work daytime hours in Perth and elsewhere who would vote against it considering they get an extra hour of usable sea-breeze on weekdays.

Unfortunately, I believe that there has NEVER been a referendum that has changed the existing status in the history of WA so it doesn't look too good for the future vote even when it happens.

From where I sit it seems to be an "old fart" versus "young dude" debate. Some of us (like me) are currently 12 going on 13 (so I'm told) so will just have to vote FOR!!!

I wouldn't dream of trying to influence anyone else's vote but don't worry guys, most of the old farts will be dead before long and kitesurfers will rule!!!

Bring on summer!!

barry boosta

NSW

42 posts

barry boosta

NSW, 42 posts

24 Oct 2007 11:18pm

i went to WA last summer and by 7pm everyone was getting out of the water - leaving it empty till 8.30pm.
once it sinks in you guys will love it {i can see most of you do}.

kitecrazzzy

2184 posts

kitecrazzzy

WA, 2184 posts

24 Oct 2007 9:25pm

Yer, lots of people go home to get kids to bed ect leaving the point empty... love it

azza

1338 posts

azza

1338 posts

24 Oct 2007 9:30pm

The problem, as I understand it, with the WA electoral system is that it isn't compulsory to vote on local or state matters. Therefore only those that feel passionately about an issue, or feel morally obliged, actually vote... everyone else can't be bothered until they're inconvenienced by some factor later on, and all that can be done then is wingeing and whining. DLS is just another local issue that is largely ignored by the people it would serve best.

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