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wishy
wishy
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18 Feb 2011 11:43am
A backroll is not called a backroll in Australia, it is called a reverse kanga
dusta
dusta
WA
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WA, 2940 posts
18 Feb 2011 11:57am
you also missed the diving instructor who was sampled off the causeway at garden island
KnutH
KnutH
VIC
427 posts
VIC, 427 posts
18 Feb 2011 3:07pm
And the point is?
RIP for those mentioned, but given the millions of people who engage in water sport activities, about 2 fatal shark attacks a year wouldn't scare me whatsoever.
For kitesurfers the odds are even much lower than for divers, surfers or swimmers, as the list shows.
So if you want to scare off Euro kiters, you pretty much achieve the opposite with this post..

GRunner
GRunner
QLD
238 posts
QLD, 238 posts
18 Feb 2011 2:12pm
There are sharks out there?

Wow wishy, you have been reseaching, thanks for that.
FormulaNova
FormulaNova
WA
15105 posts
WA, 15105 posts
18 Feb 2011 12:16pm
so what's the lesson? That sharks only take locals?
CheeseBurger
CheeseBurger
QLD
31 posts
QLD, 31 posts
18 Feb 2011 2:46pm
How many people got killed on driving on the way to the beach or even crossing the street to get to the beach? How many people drowned?

Being taken by a shark is a relatively rare occurance. Why would you worry about it? You are more likely to win the lottery.

Though I do wonder if people typically see the shark that gets them or if they just come out of nowhere.
whatthe
whatthe
WA
186 posts
WA, 186 posts
18 Feb 2011 12:49pm
FormulaNova said...

so what's the lesson?


There are more big sharks around Australia than Europe, you are more likely to be taken here than somewhere in Europe.
kitesurfjim
kitesurfjim
VIC
136 posts
VIC, 136 posts
18 Feb 2011 5:01pm
OOOOOOOhh s*it me Australia has sharks????
never would have known that one,


Look we get them around the UK Too.
Here's a list of commonly found sharks and other nasties found in UK waters. (Not mentioning the great whites Spotted in recent years)

Blunt Nose Six Gill Shark (Hexanchus griseus)
Frilled Shark (Chlamydoselache anguineus)
Greater Spotted Dogfish (Scyliorhinus stellaris)
Lesser Spotted Dogfish (Scyliorhinus canicula)
Blackmouth Dogfish (Galeus melastomus)
Hammerhead Shark (Sphyrna zygaena)
Porbeagle Shark (Lamna nasus)
Short Fin Mako Shark (Isurus oxyrinchus)
Basking Shark (Cetorhinus maximus)
Thresher Shark (Alopias vulpinus)
Blue Shark (Prionace glauca)
Tope (Galeorhinus galeus)
Common Smooth Hound (Mustelus mustelus)
Starry Smooth Hound (Mustelus asterias )
Spurdog (Squalus acanthias )
Bramble Shark
Greenland Shark (Somniosus microcephalus)
Darkie Charlie
Velvet Belly (Etmopterus spinax)

Monkfish (Squatina squatina )

NOT FORGETTING SKATES AND RAYS;

Electric Ray (Torpedo nobiliana)
Marbled Electric Ray (Torpedo marmorata)

Common Skate (Raja batis)
Shagreen Ray (Raja fullonica)
Long-nosed Skate
White Skate (Raja alba)
Thornback Ray (Raja clavata)
Undulate Ray (Raja undulata)
Cuckoo Ray (Raja naevus)
Starry Skate (Raja radiata)
Sandy Ray (Raja cirularis)
Spotted Ray (Raja montagui)
Small Eyed Ray (Raja microcellata)
Blonde Ray (Raja brackyura)

Sting Ray (Dasyatis pastinaca)

Eagle Ray (Myliobatis aquilla)

Oh and a link to what is found in the Med
http://sharks-med.netfirms.com/

Oh and the red sea:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Red_Sea_sharks

Places we "EUROS" frequent regularly.
Guys you aint got much in the water that we don't have in our waters.


Frankly This Euro Bashing is getting Boring, how about we kick all the Ozzie trainee teachers and Bar staff bums off our beaches, with their she'll be alright self launching tactics, whilst un insured.

Get over it guys seriously, just sound like a bunch of sooks who have spat their dummies.
it's only gonna get busier.
Hiaza
Hiaza
WA
19 posts
WA, 19 posts
18 Feb 2011 2:04pm
Paul Buckland was a mate of mine.....

I'm sure he would have no interest in his name, or manner of death being used in your attempt to get Euros to go....
default
default
WA
1255 posts
WA, 1255 posts
18 Feb 2011 2:09pm
kitesurfjim said...


Frankly This Euro Bashing is getting Boring


lol - so you keep telling us, even this forum is getting boring to you...why are you still here?

seriously though, its february - euro bash season!

happens every year about this time.

Bully
Bully
WA
170 posts
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18 Feb 2011 2:22pm
Geez guys pretty sure wishy threw that up there as a light hearted topic as opposed to genuinely trynna get rid of the euros. Why without euros we would miss out on reading pss funny stuff written on poxy old wicked vans, and sensational jug jiggling kite catchers which would be a shame, also who else is going to respond to that gumtree ad and come and take that manky old couch of your hands?

Certainly doubt any intended disrespect to the deceased (although understand opinions of friends of those victims named), we are all water users could have, and could be anyone of us, our family, or our mates.

Out of interest, kinda pointing out the obvious but looking at those numbers, theres been a fatal every year or two, sure more people are in the water, but have we not had more fatals in last 10 years than had in previous 40 odd years?
wishy
wishy
WA
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18 Feb 2011 2:23pm
Hiaza said...

Paul Buckland was a mate of mine.....

I'm sure he would have no interest in his name, or manner of death being used in your attempt to get Euros to go....



Sorry mate, not sure how to delete it but maybe the moderator can.
wishy
wishy
WA
1501 posts
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18 Feb 2011 2:26pm
Hiaza said...

Paul Buckland was a mate of mine.....

I'm sure he would have no interest in his name, or manner of death being used in your attempt to get Euros to go....



I changed it cos I couldn't figure out how to delete it.
kitesurfjim
kitesurfjim
VIC
136 posts
VIC, 136 posts
18 Feb 2011 5:30pm
default said...

kitesurfjim said...


Frankly This Euro Bashing is getting Boring


lol - so you keep telling us, even this forum is getting boring to you...why are you still here?

seriously though, its february - euro bash season!

happens every year about this time.



Ha ha same here dude, just enjoying a bit of fishing.

we have the same issue back home in our summer months when we have an influx of eastern Euros and others and the city slickers jumping around our beaches.

Simple way we deal with it is most beaches have formulated clubs with the BKSA and local councils, Insurance is mandatory and we police issues directly, saves resorting to localism.

Guess we are just a little too PC back in the mother land.
Nothing quite like a bit of controversial banter between the ozzies and pomes,
ya bunch of crooks
Kitesplosh
Kitesplosh
VIC
123 posts
VIC, 123 posts
18 Feb 2011 6:35pm
kitesurfjim said...

OOOOOOOhh s*it me Australia has sharks????
never would have known that one,


Look we get them around the UK Too.
Here's a list of commonly found sharks and other nasties found in UK waters. (Not mentioning the great whites Spotted in recent years)

Blunt Nose Six Gill Shark (Hexanchus griseus)
Frilled Shark (Chlamydoselache anguineus)
Greater Spotted Dogfish (Scyliorhinus stellaris)
Lesser Spotted Dogfish (Scyliorhinus canicula)
Blackmouth Dogfish (Galeus melastomus)
Hammerhead Shark (Sphyrna zygaena)
Porbeagle Shark (Lamna nasus)
Short Fin Mako Shark (Isurus oxyrinchus)
Basking Shark (Cetorhinus maximus)
Thresher Shark (Alopias vulpinus)
Blue Shark (Prionace glauca)
Tope (Galeorhinus galeus)
Common Smooth Hound (Mustelus mustelus)
Starry Smooth Hound (Mustelus asterias )
Spurdog (Squalus acanthias )
Bramble Shark
Greenland Shark (Somniosus microcephalus)
Darkie Charlie
Velvet Belly (Etmopterus spinax)

Monkfish (Squatina squatina )

NOT FORGETTING SKATES AND RAYS;

Electric Ray (Torpedo nobiliana)
Marbled Electric Ray (Torpedo marmorata)

Common Skate (Raja batis)
Shagreen Ray (Raja fullonica)
Long-nosed Skate
White Skate (Raja alba)
Thornback Ray (Raja clavata)
Undulate Ray (Raja undulata)
Cuckoo Ray (Raja naevus)
Starry Skate (Raja radiata)
Sandy Ray (Raja cirularis)
Spotted Ray (Raja montagui)
Small Eyed Ray (Raja microcellata)
Blonde Ray (Raja brackyura)

Sting Ray (Dasyatis pastinaca)

Eagle Ray (Myliobatis aquilla)

Oh and a link to what is found in the Med
http://sharks-med.netfirms.com/

Oh and the red sea:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Red_Sea_sharks

Places we "EUROS" frequent regularly.
Guys you aint got much in the water that we don't have in our waters.


Frankly This Euro Bashing is getting Boring, how about we kick all the Ozzie trainee teachers and Bar staff bums off our beaches, with their she'll be alright self launching tactics, whilst un insured.

Get over it guys seriously, just sound like a bunch of sooks who have spat their dummies.
it's only gonna get busier.



Nice list, but of course very few people get attacked by sharks in Europe - official stats:

AUSTRALIA (fatal shark attacks since records began)
New South Wales55
Queensland40
Western Australia10
South Australia13
Victoria8
Tasmania4
Northern Territory1
Cocos Islands0
AUSTRALIA131
Total attacks (fatal and non fatal) 417
Last attack 2010

EUROPE (fatal shark attacks since mid 1800s)
Italy2
Greece9
Croatia4
Spain0
France1
UK0
Malta2
EUROPE18
Total attacks (fatal and non fatal) 36
Last attack 1984




From: www.flmnh.ufl.edu/fish/Sharks/Statistics/statistics.htm

Of course this means a couple of things.

First of all Euros should definitely stay away from NSW, but kiting in NT is safe as - those reptilian looking logs are kind of picturesque. WA is also pretty safe when you take into account how big it is compared to Greece.

Secondly, if you do get attacked by a shark try and get attacked by an Aussie shark, as the Euro sharks that do attack have a much higher kill ratio.

Lastly apparently more people die of 'accidents related to underwear' and 'accidents with hot tap water' than shark attacks, so stop washing and wearing underwear.
rongroen
rongroen
WA
75 posts
WA, 75 posts
18 Feb 2011 4:13pm
Reduced washing and underwear - Lower shark attacks.. is there a link, or is the euro bashing catching on.

I don't think it matter if its a euro or an Auzzie shark - you are still going to have to wash your wettie




sebol
sebol
WA
753 posts
WA, 753 posts
18 Feb 2011 4:17pm
There are no fishes left in the ocean in Europe, small or big so it is extremely safe
Lots of tyres tho
Hiaza
Hiaza
WA
19 posts
WA, 19 posts
18 Feb 2011 5:06pm
wishy said...

Hiaza said...

Paul Buckland was a mate of mine.....

I'm sure he would have no interest in his name, or manner of death being used in your attempt to get Euros to go....



I changed it cos I couldn't figure out how to delete it.


Thanks
little o
little o
WA
405 posts
WA, 405 posts
18 Feb 2011 6:23pm
whishy you are a bad mexican
shannon8888
shannon8888
NSW
517 posts
NSW, 517 posts
18 Feb 2011 9:41pm
your supposed to wash your underwear?
kitegirl21
kitegirl21
NSW
439 posts
NSW, 439 posts
19 Feb 2011 1:12am
sebol said...

There are no fishes left in the ocean in Europe, small or big so it is extremely safe
Lots of tyres tho


try this maybe, www.plentyoffish.com

should find a few there
bennie
bennie
ACT
1258 posts
ACT, 1258 posts
19 Feb 2011 1:35am
kitesurfjim said...

OOOOOOOhh s*it me Australia has sharks????
never would have known that one,


Look we get them around the UK Too.
Here's a list of commonly found sharks and other nasties found in UK waters. (Not mentioning the great whites Spotted in recent years)

Blunt Nose Six Gill Shark (Hexanchus griseus)
Frilled Shark (Chlamydoselache anguineus)
Greater Spotted Dogfish (Scyliorhinus stellaris)
Lesser Spotted Dogfish (Scyliorhinus canicula)
Blackmouth Dogfish (Galeus melastomus)
Hammerhead Shark (Sphyrna zygaena)
Porbeagle Shark (Lamna nasus)
Short Fin Mako Shark (Isurus oxyrinchus)
Basking Shark (Cetorhinus maximus)
Thresher Shark (Alopias vulpinus)
Blue Shark (Prionace glauca)
Tope (Galeorhinus galeus)
Common Smooth Hound (Mustelus mustelus)
Starry Smooth Hound (Mustelus asterias )
Spurdog (Squalus acanthias )
Bramble Shark
Greenland Shark (Somniosus microcephalus)
Darkie Charlie
Velvet Belly (Etmopterus spinax)

Monkfish (Squatina squatina )

NOT FORGETTING SKATES AND RAYS;

Electric Ray (Torpedo nobiliana)
Marbled Electric Ray (Torpedo marmorata)

Common Skate (Raja batis)
Shagreen Ray (Raja fullonica)
Long-nosed Skate
White Skate (Raja alba)
Thornback Ray (Raja clavata)
Undulate Ray (Raja undulata)
Cuckoo Ray (Raja naevus)
Starry Skate (Raja radiata)
Sandy Ray (Raja cirularis)
Spotted Ray (Raja montagui)
Small Eyed Ray (Raja microcellata)
Blonde Ray (Raja brackyura)

Sting Ray (Dasyatis pastinaca)

Eagle Ray (Myliobatis aquilla)

Oh and a link to what is found in the Med
http://sharks-med.netfirms.com/

Oh and the red sea:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Red_Sea_sharks

Places we "EUROS" frequent regularly.
Guys you aint got much in the water that we don't have in our waters.


Frankly This Euro Bashing is getting Boring, how about we kick all the Ozzie trainee teachers and Bar staff bums off our beaches, with their she'll be alright self launching tactics, whilst un insured.

Get over it guys seriously, just sound like a bunch of sooks who have spat their dummies.
it's only gonna get busier.



you really have one of the oceans most prolific killers in the "lesser spotted dogfish". Man that fish gives me nightmares
max14
max14
SA
220 posts
SA, 220 posts
19 Feb 2011 1:22am
You can update those figures guys... A diver was taken here in south aus, at the aptly named place of coffins bay, only yesterday by 2, yes I said 2!!! Great whites. But hey surround yourself with more people I say, definatly decreases your chances of being taken
sebol
sebol
WA
753 posts
WA, 753 posts
19 Feb 2011 1:37pm
No thank you, I don't eat fishes from Russia or the Philipines

kitegirl21 said...

sebol said...

There are no fishes left in the ocean in Europe, small or big so it is extremely safe
Lots of tyres tho


try this maybe, www.plentyoffish.com

should find a few there


GRunner
GRunner
QLD
238 posts
QLD, 238 posts
19 Feb 2011 8:30pm
max14 said...

You can update those figures guys... A diver was taken here in south aus, at the aptly named place of coffins bay, only yesterday by 2, yes I said 2!!! Great whites. But hey surround yourself with more people I say, definatly decreases your chances of being taken


I beleve that helped start this whole thread, weather it was as a joke or seriously trying to put off tourists, it was totally in bad taste.
max14
max14
SA
220 posts
SA, 220 posts
19 Feb 2011 11:40pm
All bull$hit aside, I feel for those involved in these events, its a harsh deal, but one we all take the risk of when we step in the ocean. Here in south aus we have had more and more sightings of greatwhites over the past few summers, as I suspect the rest if the country. Everyone take care, and good winds to all...
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