Dislocated shoulder

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Buschy
Buschy
QLD
188 posts
QLD, 188 posts
1 May 2008 8:29pm
Dislocated my shoulder quite severely yesterday after performing some "amazing tricks" and not landing one quite right... The crowd on the beach that was cheering me on was quite upset. Given that I don't want to upset my fans I am just wondering how long it typically takes to get back on the water after such a misfortunate event

This is the second time my left shoulder has found somewhere else to sit (last time many years ago while skiing)... and I have been told to wear sling for 2 weeks and then seek physio. I pulled the sling off after wearing it for 24 hours (my shoulder/arm felt like it was starting to freeze in it and already felt like I had zero range of motion) and now it feels much better. Typing with both hands . Haven't experienced any pain since they popped it back into place. Perhaps because it has happended before? Who knows, anyways... Xrays show no other complicatons. Anyone had a similar experience? From past experience, I think this business with the sling doesn't help, only makes things worse.
Skinner
Skinner
ACT
55 posts
ACT, 55 posts
1 May 2008 11:11pm
Bummer mate, at least its going into winter... Small consolation, I'm sure.

I did mine while snowboarding in 2004 - even though it went straight back in it hurt like hell for about a week. According to the physio and doctor there was also some rotator cuff damage in there as well, but I don't think it was anywhere near as bad as they first thought. Still gives me a little bit of pain in certain positions or performing certain actions at the gym now and then, but nothing that would stop me just yet. I feel as though I have lost a little bit of strength in it but not a huge amount.

Hope you're younger/tougher/heal faster than me.

Sk
jev7337
jev7337
QLD
460 posts
QLD, 460 posts
1 May 2008 11:20pm
Hey, sorry to hear that.
It happened to me a couple of months back. I jumped a sand bank and landed on an other one - unfortunately with my hand first and my shoulder dislocated. It hurts. My mate popped it back in. I did get it checked and x-rayed a few days later and it was all fine.

I didn't wear a sling but kept rotating my arm regularly. I have experienced pain in certain positions or movement but it got better over time.
You will slowly get the movement back and it took me about a month before I went back on the water. It may take you a while longer before you unhook again.

kitecrazzzy
kitecrazzzy
WA
2184 posts
WA, 2184 posts
1 May 2008 10:40pm
if it happens more than once, every time it happens it makes it more prone to happening again and you need surgery to fix it. that will leave you off water for at least a season with complications for the rest of your life.
two of my friends have had the operation, another is going in for it tomorrow morning.
if you want to avoid it i would suggest you go to some professionals and get the right kind of strapping and stuff as you don't want to do it again as even with the surgery it will only be about as good as it is now if you do have surgery in the future. two of those i mentioned have parents in the medical industry who did the best strapping and care they could but obviously it has been to no true avail so I would worry what happens with out any preventative measures.
1likeBJ
1likeBJ
WA
152 posts
WA, 152 posts
2 May 2008 9:37am
Done my shoulder twice, once forward and once backwards (Physio said best New Years injury he'd ever had...) The membrane that usually wraps around the ball was tucked in between the joint. I got keyhole surgery done in the April and was kiting by September/October. Definitely worth it. Shoulder doesn't feel unstable at all and cost me f-all on private health.

If you're not getting surgery the key is to alternate resting and mobility exercise - sling is good to let the shoulder relax. From memory you get the most blood flow when you're shoulder is relaxed (in sling) but you do need to keep it mobilised. Also swimming is a really good way of building the joint strength back up.
Kadkhah
Kadkhah
WA
381 posts
WA, 381 posts
2 May 2008 10:24am
I have to agree with Kitecarzzzy.
If your shoulder dislocated two times you need to see your MD for it.
I have the same problem with my right thumb :D ,its getting dislocated every now and then.
My mate got this problem with his left shoulder and he ended up in a surgery, right now he can ski but he is not allowed to hold ski poles and he shouldn't crash (Skiing like a 90 yo man).


h20fly
h20fly
WA
384 posts
WA, 384 posts
2 May 2008 10:29am
i agree, you can go to a physio now to speed up the healing process, they can do more than what just ice can. then yeh strapping dude they will be able to show you how to do it appropriatly. and a dislocated shoulder is something you really have to be careful about, once you dislocate it it wont be the same agian, some argue, ever. you stretch all the ligaments that hold your shoulder in place. there is strength exersizes and rehab that can be done, but ultimatly you have to be more careful. Dont rush back on the water dude as hard as that sounds. get the rehab just stay hooked in till probably atleast summer then you should be all good. good luck holmes
Kitehard
Kitehard
WA
2782 posts
WA, 2782 posts
2 May 2008 10:37am
Yep

Definately seek some professional advice. Speak to a physio and get some exercises to strengthen the muscles around the effected area. Everytime it dislocates, it makes it easier to dislocate again. Sort it out before it gets worse. The more damage you do, the worse and harder it gets to repair.

A friend of mine dislocated his shoulder in a drunken motor bike crash in Thailand, he ignored it and after multiple further dislocations over subsequent years without treatment, he sometimes wakes up in the night screaming as it has "popped out" in his sleep. Don't let it get this bad!

Sorry to hear. I started to damage my right shoulder back in the day when monkey kiteloops (one handed unhooked kiteloops) were the rage. I stopped after I got a lot of sickly feeling of grinding and clicking in my shoulder and decided to stop aggravating it. It still plays up but not too bad (luckily)!

I wish you well,

cRAZY Canuk
cRAZY Canuk
NSW
2528 posts
NSW, 2528 posts
2 May 2008 3:16pm
Think of me as the broken record, Physio and strength training are a must after a dislocation even if you're going in for surgery because you need the joint to be strong and it'll help recovery.

Having done both shoulders and some how not having to have surgery on my right (to the surprise of every MD I know) go to a physio and treat what they say as the gospel. Don't just go to any physio either look into it a bit and make sure you find someone that is good with shoulders or specializes in them if they work with footballers, Volleyballers and such its a good start.

And put your sling back on silly white boy, the sling and proper physio can save you from surgery and an arthritic shoulder. The stiffing of a joint is due to trauma and is there because there's a massive amount of swelling in the joint and in the muscles are trying to tighten up after you stretched the crap out of them

Oh and Figure 3 months (min.) for the shoulder to get back on the water.

Kitehard: I can sympathize with your mate as my right shoulder got that bad. It's taken two years of paddling/swimming/strength training to keep it in for more than a month at a time. Nothing like waking up in the middle of the night with your shoulder dislocated or having it pop out when you get smashed by a wave, when the rotator cuff is that loose it doesn't take much to pop out the shoulder. The shoulder hasn't come out in a year now, so happy.
kiter789
kiter789
NSW
238 posts
NSW, 238 posts
2 May 2008 4:00pm
Follow the instructions. I dislocated my hip years ago, and did not follow the instructions. It hurts now and is not as mobile. I struggle with some of the newer dance steps.

So; you have two options -

Option one

wait till it stops hurting and then flog it again. You have probably doubled your chance of dislocating it again and this will only increase with every subsequent dislocation. However, you may not do any real damage to it, and you might end up as one of those freaky people whose shoulders pop in and out like IR legislation. You WILL almost certainly pay for it when you get old though - arthritis will be the real killer. And it will HURT.

Option Two;

Take medical advice. Lay about the house having people serve you. Moan dramatically. Wear the sling.



effovski
effovski
WA
65 posts
WA, 65 posts
2 May 2008 2:36pm
free medical advice

to dislocate the shoulder generally leads to labrum tear (SLAP lesion)
this will not repair its self - can lead to recurrent dislocations

shoulder very reliant on muscles from scapula and chest to stabilise it

current orthopedic opinion is to repair the labrum esp if young, less clear as get older, depend on age activities etc - done arthroscopically these days

for full assessment = mri + gandolinium required, assesses damage to allow necessary treatment plan to be generated, xrays wont show soft tissue damage but can exclude a fracture

shoulders do not like to be immobilised = get advice on some basic exercises eg pendulum etc to avoid frozen shoulder and then move to cuff strengthening regimen

meanwhile get ortho opinion
jeffsan
jeffsan
WA
7 posts
WA, 7 posts
2 May 2008 4:19pm
Yeah Effovski, that is what i did...a SLAP lesion (playing rugby) it was a big one apparently. Continually subluxed?? and dislocated, however i contunied to grit my teeth and bear it and played on until it was really loose, had surgery...lost full mobility for about 2-3 and then it took like 2 months to be back to full mobility, but as you all have said...do as the physio says when they say it...now 18 months down the track...have absolutely no dramas with it...full movement and no pain!!!
Skid
Skid
QLD
1499 posts
QLD, 1499 posts
3 May 2008 11:41pm
Ron,

Sorry to hear about your injury. Must be a bugger looking at that new ozone kite of yours sitting neatly in its bag (guess you didn't need to be reminded of this)

Not sure if this applies to your injury or not but I had a rotator cuff injury a few years ago, put up with the pain for ages and ended up getting a steriod injection which did the trick and helped things heal without further grief.

Perhaps Tracy can suggest some yoga moves for mobility?

Hope you have a full recovery
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