I wonder how this double depower system will stack up against the depowering capabilities of an sle or bow kite , looks like a step in the right direction.

http://www.naishafrica.com/distribution/07%20pdf/DoubleDepower.pdf

Just go and buy a cabrinha 'punchout stopper ball' like on the c'bow ,s'blade or contra and thread your chicken through it, and it will do the same thing, and cost you f'all.

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Originally posted by oxy

Could you explain how the stopper engages itself on the bar, obviously by pushing the bar past the stopper ball gives you the extra depower but what happens when your riding on the knot how much pressure will it take before you activate the double depower.

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The new cabrinha system is the shizzle. I'm considering putting it on my old switchblade.

The pressure needed to pop the stopper is adjustable by tightening a spring clip with varying graduations. You can also set it pretty much anywhere along the length of your line, as it just uses a grub screw to lock it into place.

Definitely worth checking out!

Maybe i am missing something here?? but if the bar is pushed up onto the stopper ball which is attached to the shift line how does that make the shift line pull down. unless the shift line is running down to the top of the chicken loop, through a pulley or something and then return back up to the stopper ball, the upward motion on the bar/stopper ball is going to be exactly the same on the shift line (upwards, which is going to achieve nothing). Me no understand, please explain.

Your shop must hate you

I dont think it works the same way as the slingshot system, by pushing then bar past the stopper you engage the fifth line , it has a small pully system which pulls on the fifth line which you cant see on the pdf file.

I think with the slingshot system you have to manually put the fifth line in the cleat system where this system does not do that as you adjust the depower with the bar when you engage the stopper.

Apparently I have also been told you can still ride on the knot without engaging the double depower system, cant wait to try it out.

Is the kite using 5th as safety?
Like instantly falling depowered in 50 knots like normal.

Or will it have same problems in strong winds, just like Bow kites not really killing the power in emergencies.

Must be like RRD wave bar, its not safe either.

"Must be like RRD wave bar, its not safe either. "

Please explain? What's unsafe about the Type Wave bar?

Have you had a bad experience or are you just bagging another brand?

Slim

NJ, you still haven't stated what's unsafe about the wave bar.

"**** in and out. Bar stays in nuetral you must push for depower."

and? what's your point?

"When the wind is fugn strong and your on the beach by yourself, landing is like a bow.Kite goes around and around. Gets messy eh."

Did u self land with the 5th or flag it out? Have had no probs with this or any "messy lines."

"RRD is a 5 line with no real advantage for safety-like bow just a bit of extra depower....."

A whole lot of depower is obviously a safety advantage.

"I dont believe theres any good in bow style kites."

"Bow style is forgetting the safety of good relaunch and the true nuetral of power that 5 lines delievers."

Don't know what that means, true neutral of power???
The type wave is not a bow kite, it's a C & it has a 5th line.
The Type Wave is not claiming to be the world's best beginner kite, just a bloody quick totally depowerable kite suited to wave riding.
Nothing more, nothing less.

Its true.[}:)]
Its not safe.

Do you understand its only a bit of depower.
It has NO reliable SAFETY LEASH.

Suicide leash isnt safe, hence the name.
It should be called Homicide leash or Murder leash.

Your dangerous.
Your kite spins around in circles and cant be relaunched
Your reride safety leash has limited spinning ability
With RRD you have no safety option.

Use 5 lines but use it safely for you and others.

Quote me D1ckhead.

Hey Njpornstar the bar set up is exactly same as the 06 shift system.

The only real differences are you can push the bar past the red stopper and you get more depower and it has a y connection point on the leading edge.

As for safety it works exactly the same way as it did for the 06 kites with 100% depower once the safety is pulled on your chicken loop, and as for self landing in high winds the fifth line is still the safest way to self land a kite by holding on to the fifth line and making your way up to the kite slowly with 100% depower.

I think the added depower will be an advantage in the surf and on gusty days but I still think the bows will be the ultimate gust eaters.

Click on this link as Naish Canada explains how it works.

http://www.kiteforum.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2330417&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20

I have been perusing the pdf pics.

correct me if I am wrong, the 5th line actually attachs to the red stopper.
that part of the 5th line that goes thru bar is attached to a SS ring which is tucked in stopper. the 5th then threads thru the ring.

Thus when the red stopper is pushed upwards, it pulls the 5th thru the ring and tensions the 5th line.

OK, Has anyone asked how this works for when you need to dump the kite on the 5th line? I mean the ring would need to pull thru the bar. How many twists in 5th before this becomes a problem?

Also I would query the longivity of the line being pulled thru the ring.

I am not bagging the System, but it needs to be reliably safe.

To me it may be a great system for Sle's that can be used on normal bars, or the North rebel even.

In my experience, being able to tension 5th in wind surges is a big plus. But having the bar even further away in these surges is a big minus